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Am I just being paranoid...
« on: October 25, 2007, 07:09:27 PM »
...or do you think it was coincidence that, according to one of the Learned People interviewed on the news, at least one arsonist set his stuff in just the right spot to do the most damage, given prevailing winds and terrain?
 
Heck, if I had 20 jihadists in the LA area, I'd be passing out gasoline and matchbooks...
 
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 07:54:10 PM »
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if I had twenty jihadists in the LA area,


You'd have moving, reactive targets.  Happy shooting!   laugh
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2007, 07:58:32 PM »
Sigh... I guess it's one of the down sides to this being a free country, but we are such EASY targets...
 
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2007, 08:46:29 PM »
Oh.  I meant that if you had twenty jihadis, you could use them as target practice. 
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2007, 09:00:31 PM »
It helps when

1) Nature cooperates, and

2) The people in the area are too stupid to create firebreaks and put fire resistant roofs on their house.

Saw the same damn thing happen in Tahoe.  People want their homes to be right up in the trees, so they fail to clear a firebreak, and then because they want the forest to remain "natural" (Hint:  No such thing as a natural forest in the United States), they let underbrush build up, which creates fire ladders, which allows fires access to the crowns of trees, which makes the fire even larger than it normally would have been.

Southern california is the same thing, just without the trees. People want their homes right up next to the "wilderness" and so fail to create fire breaks, and then they stop natural fires, which causes a buildup of fuel (i.e. lots of thick vegetation, which in many cases is dead). Then you get massive fires that cause thousands to evacuate.

I'm really not feeling that much sympathy for those in Southern California right now.
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 09:14:13 PM »
my goats took care of underbrush and my chainsaw the larger dead stuff

last big round of fires i remember one house in neighborhood that survived  was an asian engineer who built it using good sense  you'd think others woould too   you'd be mistaken

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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2007, 03:54:14 AM »
IIRC, a couple of years ago there were fires around the Oakland area, and there was one house that survived. TV news interviewed the owner.

He said that in addition to clearing trees and brush from around the house, he built the outside out of brick and stucco, and put on a tile roof.

His neighbors were upset when he built the house, since it stuck out like a sore thumb, especially the roof; cedar shakes were "proper" for the neighborhood.

Their houses all burned.
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2007, 04:05:44 AM »
There's also one house on a hill there that survived despite having fire completely engulf it. Everything inside was fine.



It was one of those concrete "monolithic dome" ones.


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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2007, 05:16:50 AM »
...or do you think it was coincidence that, according to one of the Learned People interviewed on the news, at least one arsonist set his stuff in just the right spot to do the most damage, given prevailing winds and terrain?
 
Heck, if I had 20 jihadists in the LA area, I'd be passing out gasoline and matchbooks...
 

I would think that it's not rocket science.

Light the fire at the bottom of the hill, wherever there's good brush, and the prevailing wind is also going uphill. Look at a map or Google Earth to find concentrations of homes and structures that would be in the way.
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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2007, 05:44:49 AM »
The spread of the fire was caused by downed power lines, and winds up to 80 MPH.  The Santiago fire is the only one being investigated as arson, as far as I know.  But yeah, it would be really easy.

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Re: Am I just being paranoid...
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2007, 10:09:24 AM »
One attempted arsonist paid the price, it seems.  I hear LE popped one yesterday.

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