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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: zahc on December 10, 2016, 10:36:44 PM
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I do not myself drink distilled beverages, but I want to buy my boss some expensive whiskey. Something he might not buy himself because it's too expensive. Is there a gold standard expensive whiskey that is worth it and not just expensive because of all marketing?
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Is your boss a whiskey drinker? I ask because there's whiskey, then there's whiskey, then there's whiskey. Then there's even whisky.
Is he a bourbon drinker? Rye? Scotch?
If Scotch, you could buy him a $75 bottle of Lagavulin (an excellent Islay Scotch), but if he only likes Highland Scotch, it'll be a wasted $75 and you would have been better off buying him a $20 of cheap Highland Scotch.
Not trying to be a stick in the mud, but I'd hate to see you throw out a Benjamin and have your boss say, "well, it's the thought that counts". If you have some idea of what he likes, let us know and we'll come up with suggestions.
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A very good whiskey IMHO* that's not too expensive is Elijah Craig small batch bourbon. I don't remember how many years it's aged, 11?
*I am not known for my taste is whiskeys, but I have given bottles of EC before and it's always been appreciated.
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At COSTCO there's a 12 Days of Whisky box, it's like an advent calendar for alcoholics.
Give him that, and when he mentions which one he liked the most, get him a bottle of that.
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And what is "expensive"? An expensive bourbon is $50 (and a waste IMO), but an expensive Scotch will start at 100+ and go up from there.
Then, there is EXPENSIVE, where you're looking at nosebleed prices for bottles of Pappy Van Winkle. Those are for the nouveau riche and collectors.
Chris
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I was thinking $50-100
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That's entry level for single malt Scotch (well, high-entry-level), but will get a quality bourbon or rye. However, in Scotch alone, you have multiple distinct types, not including blends of which there are numerous examples.
Chris
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I was thinking $50-100
So any idea of what he likes? Has he ever mentioned a type or brand around you?
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How much for just a bottle and some ribbon paper to make it look like it hasn't been opened?
nudge nudge wink wink
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Yeah, you'll need to narrow it down to at least a type. Then we can give some suggestions.
FWIW:
Scotch: Highland park is good for getting some smoke and peat flavor without overpowering folks. Technically a Highland scotch but on the flavorful end. Get one of the 18ish YO singles. Anything Talisker is always a safe bet for a good drinkable scotch.
Bourbon: Makers mark is kind of a standard, decent bottle, but I actually like Knob Creek a little better. Jefferson's is also pretty good. I had a bottle of the Jefferon's Ocean that was the best bourbon I've ever head, but it's sometimes hard to find.)
Rye: I've enjoyed Bulleit but I'm not a super fan of Ryes.
Can't help you with Tennessee and Irish whiskey's.
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For Irish whiskey, the choice is Redbreast 12 year.
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This might be a liiiittle bit out of your price range, but since it is at the airport, Narita International Airport, it's tax free. =D Plus our exchange rate has been getting better.
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Forgot about Irish whiskey. Don't forget Japanese whiskey.
There are also wheat whiskeys, which tend to be very soft and smooth.
Chris
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You definitely need to give us better direction on style of whisky. The difference between bourbon and rye is big enough. Scotch is whole other galaxy. Within Scotch you have Single Malt and blended malts. Within Single Malts you about half a dozen major regions that each give their own flavor profiles.
Price alone is a poor proxy for quality.
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Here ya go...
A traditional name at a traditional price...
http://www.melandrose.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=30506&vfsku=3350597&vfsku=3350597&gpla=pla&gclid=CjwKEAiAj7TCBRCp2Z22ue-zrj4SJACG7SBEWi-Z8LUDxzSFGlxnb8b1lJvnTdRJcRrzk5uM6xZ69xoCE3rw_wcB
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The Balvenie doublewood 17. Classy yet cheap!
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Well, if people are just going to throw out recommendations anyway, and you don't know what your boss likes...
My favorite whiskies over the last couple of years (excluding single malts) have been what High West Distillery puts out. If you don't know what your boss drinks, High West makes a whiskey called Campfire that is a blend of bourbon, rye, and scotch. It's about $60/bottle. I usually don't do blended whisky, but this one is my favorite weekend whiskey and probably my favorite High West in "bang for the buck". I find all the High West varieties great except the Rendezvous Rye. That doesn't seem to be just me from what I've read, so avoid that one if you go the High West route.
http://thewhiskeyjug.com/american-whiskey/high-west-campfire-review/
Also, I think all of us are assuming that your boss drinks his whiskey straight. If he's going to be making high balls, you can probably just get him some Jack Daniels at the grocery store. =D
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Glemorangie Nectar D'or, for the price range you mentioned and not knowing what he likes. I'm horrible on describing booze, but you'd have to drink a few to appreciate this. Good stuff.
https://www.glenmorangie.com/us/glenmorangie-nectar-dor
I second the Talisker recommendation if you think he'd be into something a bit harsher.
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Bourbon: Makers mark is kind of a standard, decent bottle, but I actually like Knob Creek a little better. Jefferson's is also pretty good. I had a bottle of the Jefferon's Ocean that was the best bourbon I've ever head, but it's sometimes hard to find.)
Love that, have a bottle of it in the pantry currently and know where I can get more at a nice discount.
Another thing to take into account where are you and what is available. Sometimes certain brands are only sold in specific regions.
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As others have said it really matters what he likes and what his purpose is with it.
Example: I really like Maker Mark 46. It's their slightly more expensive "elite" brand, I believe. I prefer it neat.
I also have a bottle of Bird Dog Blackberry whiskey. It's a bit too sweet for my taste to drink it straight. It's REALLY good in eggnog, though. I would NEVER use my 46 in a mixed drink though- it seems like such a waste.
So, is he a mixed drink guy or straight? Bourbon or Scotch?
IF he just likes whiskey and doesn't know, the sampler is a great idea.
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Forgot about Irish whiskey. Don't forget Japanese whiskey.
There are also wheat whiskeys, which tend to be very soft and smooth.
Chris
What's wrong with Irish whiskey, is it just overrated? The only Irish I've had is "2 Gingers", and it's okay in highballs or as shots, but there's not much to it. I don't know if it's representative of the style. The only other Irish brand I know is Jameson's.
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What's wrong with Irish whiskey, is it just overrated? The only Irish I've had is "2 Gingers", and it's okay in highballs or as shots, but there's not much to it. I don't know if it's representative of the style. The only other Irish brand I know is Jameson's.
Nothing's wrong with Irish whiskey. My comment was that I forgot about it.
I actually like Irish whiskeys. They tend to be milder and nuanced than other whiskeys (haven't tried Japanese). They also go well in coffee, making them a perennial favorite at camp. :)
Jameson's isn't bad, but I prefer their more exclusive variations. The basic version is a bit "meh". For a cheap Irish whiskey, I like Tullamore DEW.
Chris
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I misread your post. Thought you said "Forget about Irish whiskey"
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Basil Hayden's and Bookers are both excellent Bourbons made by the Jim Beam family. I think somewhat better than Maker's.
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Can you find some good moonshine? It's not cheap but it will ruin you for taxed booze
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Old Crow, Wild Turkey, Yukon Jack....
Those all suck.
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Old Crow, Wild Turkey, Yukon Jack....
Those all suck.
:rofl:
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Can you find some good moonshine? It's not cheap but it will ruin you for taxed booze
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Eh, gotta go with no.
I've had good moonshine, and it's good, but it's completely different then a good whiskey. Good moonshine will ruin you for taxed rotgut, but you shouldn't be buying any liqueur that's available in plastic jugs anyway.
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Eh, gotta go with no.
I've had good moonshine, and it's good, but it's completely different then a good whiskey. Good moonshine will ruin you for taxed rotgut, but you shouldn't be buying any liqueur that's available in plastic jugs anyway.
I could never taste past the 5th shot so most of it taste was moot point
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Eh, gotta go with no.
I've had good moonshine, and it's good, but it's completely different then a good whiskey. Good moonshine will ruin you for taxed rotgut, but you shouldn't be buying any liqueur that's available in plastic jugs anyway.
The good stuff comes in a quart mason jar.
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I could never taste past the 5th shot so most of it taste was moot point
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Well there ya go. =D
Good whiskey is sippin' whiskey. Taking shots is for something you find unpalatable, like NyQuil and Southern Comfort. :laugh:
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The good stuff comes in a quart mason jar.
Half my family is old school backwoods North Alabama folks. I am very familiar with good moonshine. And thanks to Uncle Billy I'm familiar with not good moonshine as well.
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Even my girlfriend likes Maker's Mark 46 and she isn't a whiskey, whisky, or bourbon lover. I don't see how anyone could dislike even if it isn't their favorite. Maker's Mark is definitely on the sweeter side of things. We toured some distilleries in Bourbon country and we're impressed with how traditional the process is, and that does ad some appeal to the mystique of the higher priced products.
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Gotta narrow it down. Especially if you want to get him a "nice" bottle.
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I think we have overwhelmed him. He hasn't been back since he gave us a price range.
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Maybe he's doing field tests
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Maybe he's doing field tests
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Ben, RKL, Dogmush: Spoken like true aficionados ( or sumpin close)! Real corn squeezins, not Apple pie or that crap!