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Title: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 16, 2010, 11:01:07 PM
I've been seeing these hats on guys the last couple of months (minus the fuzzy balls):

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sojones.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FGoorin-Brothers-The-Peju-Crochet-Knit-Helmet-Hat.jpg&hash=89033240dadcbfc4383bf2b642056bd55f62bcf1)

At first I though the guy was a homeless bum, but after seeing more of the hats, I realized they must be cool (or whatever term is being used this week).

What the hell is going on? This looks like the McKenzie brothers. It looks like something that a character in "Fargo" might wear. This is cool?

Who's driving fashion these days?
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Regolith on March 16, 2010, 11:05:19 PM
Man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: zahc on March 16, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
I think it's rather cunning.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: SADShooter on March 16, 2010, 11:14:37 PM
I can only assume Macrame (sp) has become a fad again?
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Inor on March 16, 2010, 11:14:58 PM
Hmm.  In Minnesota, where I live, folks have worn hats like these (minus the fuzzy balls) all my life.   =D

Of course, we are next to the Canadian border.  And the movie Fargo was a spoof on Minnesota not North Dakota...   =D

Oh well, I guess I'll just go clean out my wood chipper.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Sindawe on March 16, 2010, 11:18:54 PM
I've had one of those since winter 2006. 

In orange, minus the fuzzy balls on the end.  I call it my Jayne hat.

Matches my three season shell and 4th Doctor scarf quite well.

Jelly Baby?

 =D
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: RevDisk on March 16, 2010, 11:20:28 PM
What the hell is going on? This looks like the McKenzie brothers. It looks like something that a character in "Fargo" might wear. This is cool?

Good enough for the hero of Canton. 
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: KD5NRH on March 16, 2010, 11:27:27 PM
Hmm.  In Minnesota, where I live, folks have worn hats like these (minus the fuzzy balls) all my life.

It's a bit different when they're in Texas, where we have to go dig out the coats for a couple months every year, then lose them again.

Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 16, 2010, 11:28:44 PM
The guys wearing these aren't doing so to keep warm. I saw a gangstah type today at the gym with one on, and he wore it the whole time. Looked silly as all hell.

The younger members of the forum have made fun of the 1960's, and the long hair, bell bottoms, etc. But if anyone had told me back then that in 40 years it would be fashionable to wear a knit hat with ear flaps, have baggy pants hanging down so folks can see the underwear and the crack in the butt, be covered in tattoos, have the head shaved, and all sorts of places in the body pierced, I would have had the person making the prediction locked away in a rubber room.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: sanglant on March 16, 2010, 11:39:14 PM
looks like something for there spazed out other to play with. kinda like a cat with a ball of yarn. :angel: [popcorn]
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Inor on March 16, 2010, 11:42:55 PM
The younger members of the forum have made fun of the 1960's, and the long hair, bell bottoms, etc. But if anyone had told me back then that in 40 years it would be fashionable to wear a knit hat with ear flaps, have baggy pants hanging down so folks can see the underwear and the crack in the butt, be covered in tattoos, have the head shaved, and all sorts of places in the body pierced, I would have had the person making the prediction locked away in a rubber room.

Ha ha ha!  Indeed sir.

It reminds me of a P.J O'Rourke quote: "A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat."  - Unless it is a cowboy hat of course.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Mrs. Inor on March 16, 2010, 11:46:52 PM
Yes - but if I had saved all the crap I wore in the sixties - I could have saved a mint in buying clothes for my daughters.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: AJ Dual on March 16, 2010, 11:56:50 PM
That kind of hat comes from Peru, Chile, the Andes mountain region, where wearing it here stateside had some sort of .alt/Kerouac/vagabond/hippie cred. (Also associated with hacky-sack/stoners on college campuses) Then it made the leap to other fashionable subcultures. Snowboarders etc.

Mainly the "I'm so cool I can pull this off" incongruity thing. Went from there.

And all the other references are to Adam Baldwin's character on the short-lived but very popular sci-fi show "Firefly", a.k.a. "The hat of cunning". He and the show are popular amongst geek/sci-fi/libertarian/gun-nut subcultures as well.

http://ficml.org/jemimap/ff/cunning/

Sorry to lay it out so plainly for Monkeyleg, but we must show respect to our elders.  =D
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 17, 2010, 12:57:09 AM
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Sorry to lay it out so plainly for Monkeyleg, but we must show respect to our elders.

One of perks of being old is being able to advise a young person to not be photographed "looking like that," as it will haunt the person later on. One of the liabilities of being young is being too haughty to listen, and having to endure the laughter years later when the photos are unearthed.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Mabs2 on March 17, 2010, 12:58:02 AM
Clearly they are merely imitating greatness:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsteampunkcostume.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2Fjayne-hat.jpg&hash=5c240060e9ebca0979a7f7f400db8a60822bcd56)
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: sanglant on March 17, 2010, 01:35:27 AM
Clearly they are merely imitating greatness:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsteampunkcostume.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2Fjayne-hat.jpg&hash=5c240060e9ebca0979a7f7f400db8a60822bcd56)

I'M GAY!

lol!!! FTW! =D
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Fjolnirsson on March 17, 2010, 01:47:07 AM

Matches my three season shell and 4th Doctor scarf quite well.

 =D

Allons-y!

(yes, I realize my quote is actually tenth doctor, but I am a bit short of 4th doctor quotes at the moment...)
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 17, 2010, 03:07:33 AM
What's with distinctive cold weather gear and sci-fi?  (And who let these Doc Who fans in here?  Creepy.)   :P


Oh, and Monkeyleg, the new cool is spelled f-i-s-t-f-u-l.  [walks away into own private dreamland]
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on March 17, 2010, 03:20:21 AM
I've been seeing these hats on guys the last couple of months (minus the fuzzy balls):

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sojones.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FGoorin-Brothers-The-Peju-Crochet-Knit-Helmet-Hat.jpg&hash=89033240dadcbfc4383bf2b642056bd55f62bcf1)
Saw a guy wearing a solid white model recently. Looks quite a bit like a pith helmet when viewed via the corner of your eye. Practical item for colder weather.

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Oh, and Monkeyleg, the new cool is spelled f-i-s-t-f-u-l.  [walks away into own private dreamland]
It is spelled Z-a-r-d-o-z.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi360.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo42%2FALatchley%2Fzardoz1.jpg&hash=e683e8fe094d26f5c785c1f20e74170c453bb21a)
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: RevDisk on March 17, 2010, 09:42:43 AM
What's with distinctive cold weather gear and sci-fi?  (And who let these Doc Who fans in here?  Creepy.)   :P

Space is cold.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: HankB on March 17, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
"Cool" is just another way of saying "Not so hot."
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: AJ Dual on March 17, 2010, 10:19:57 AM
Well honestly, since space is a vacuum, getting rid of your waste heat is usually the problem. Hence half the "panels" on things like the ISS are actually radiators.

If "cold" in space is a problem, you've got really bad problems, like no power.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Jim147 on March 17, 2010, 10:28:23 AM
It been many many years so I may be wrong but didn't Spicoli wear one of those in Fast Times at Ridgemont High?  ;)

jim
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 17, 2010, 10:43:32 AM
When I was younger, anyone wearing that hat would have been a super-dork.

Also, isn't the Zardoz photo a violation of APS rules now?
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: charby on March 17, 2010, 01:26:30 PM
I had a hat like that in college in the mid 1990's, seems like they are still around.

Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Jim147 on March 17, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
I think the guys buying this today are Monkeyleg's normal customers. They thought the model came with the hat. :P

jim
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: AJ Dual on March 17, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
When I was younger, anyone wearing that hat would have been a super-dork.

Well, in the 1920's most all hat-wearing was done by women, so yeah, a guy wearing that hat would have raised a few eyebrows.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 17, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Actually, AJ, the wearing of hats amongst men was common and fashionable right up to about the 1960's. By "hats" I mean dress hats, not MacKenzie brothers hats. ;)

Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on March 17, 2010, 03:25:01 PM
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Also, isn't the Zardoz photo a violation of APS rules now?
Violation? It's practically the APS mascot.  :P
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on March 17, 2010, 03:57:46 PM
Good enough for the hero of Canton. 

http://media.libsyn.com/media/thesignal/signal_224_20061220.mp3

At 41:17, there's a quite good rendition of "The Hero of Canton."
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: wmenorr67 on March 17, 2010, 04:41:34 PM
There is a hat in that photo?





















Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Jocassee on March 17, 2010, 04:50:14 PM
The hat should have stopped at Jayne.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Balog on March 17, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
Well, in the 1920's most all hat-wearing was done by women, so yeah, a guy wearing that hat would have raised a few eyebrows.


Every pic I've seen from the 1950's and earlier show men wearing some form of hat outdoors. Fedora, cowboy hat etc depending on region.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 17, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
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Every pic I've seen from the 1950's and earlier show men wearing some form of hat outdoors. Fedora, cowboy hat etc depending on region.

It was customary for English middle class men to often wear a suit and hat no matter what the event (Alfred Hitchcock dressed in this middle class fashion).

There was a photo published in the Houghton/Hancock MI newspaper of my grandfather fishing in a rowboot wearing a suit and hat.

He didn't look like Doug MacKenzie, though.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Scout26 on March 18, 2010, 01:58:19 AM
I want a Jayne hat..... =D
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Harold Tuttle on March 18, 2010, 11:01:54 AM
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41204019
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: AJ Dual on March 18, 2010, 11:21:00 AM
Actually, AJ, the wearing of hats amongst men was common and fashionable right up to about the 1960's. By "hats" I mean dress hats, not MacKenzie brothers hats. ;)

Back then, was "Doing the Charleston" all the rage it's made out to be in history books?
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Harold Tuttle on March 18, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
My Grandmother got evicted from a Pittsburgh ballroom for doing the Charleston in the 1930s
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: seeker_two on March 18, 2010, 12:26:40 PM
I've been seeing these hats on guys the last couple of months (minus the fuzzy balls) :

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sojones.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FGoorin-Brothers-The-Peju-Crochet-Knit-Helmet-Hat.jpg&hash=89033240dadcbfc4383bf2b642056bd55f62bcf1)


So that's what I've been doing wrong....I haven't been wearing the hat......


 =D
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on March 18, 2010, 06:18:50 PM
*rollseyes*

uhhhh guys.... that hat has been skater/stoner style for the past 15 years.  ;/

now the real question is when are the pinstripe suit, fedora and wing tips gonna come back for the mainstream...
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 18, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
*rollseyes*

uhhhh guys.... that hat has been skater/stoner style for the past 15 years.  ;/

now the real question is when are the pinstripe suit, fedora and wing tips gonna come back for the mainstream...

And you expect me to know this? ;)
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on March 18, 2010, 06:41:49 PM
And you expect me to know this? ;)

sorry, i spend too much time with my dad. he's 57 and keeps better track of current style/pop culture then i do.  :lol:
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: wmenorr67 on March 18, 2010, 06:43:04 PM
*rollseyes*

uhhhh guys.... that hat has been skater/stoner style for the past 15 years.  ;/

now the real question is when are the pinstripe suit, fedora and wing tips gonna come back for the mainstream...

Go to the private room and ask fistful.
Title: Re: This is the new cool?
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on March 18, 2010, 06:46:43 PM
Go to the private room and ask fistful.
:facepalm: (not about asking fistul though...)