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well regulated
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:22:11 PM »
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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Seems to me that the state should be footing the bill teaching us marksmanship and military tactics.

To not offer armed citizens training seems to be a shirking of their responsibilities.

Having an armed and well trained populace is how you guarantee the security of the state according to the founders.

Enough of this settling for being allowed to have guns. I want gun owners to have quality training provided by the state.

Government should offer weekend Appleseed type training once a year for all gun owners as well as a weekend at a respectable pistol training center. For advanced marksmen they could substitute training in tactics and guerrilla warfare, ie how to maximize the pain for invaders.

Looking at the 2nd Amendment that seems to me to be the logical conclusion of the complete expansion of our right to bear arms.

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Re: well regulated
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 01:03:09 PM »
A strict interpretation of 2A would protect the right to own modern battle weapons more than grandpa's shotgun  ;)

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Re: well regulated
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 02:58:23 PM »
Quote from: Ron on March 10, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
Seems to me that the state should be footing the bill teaching us marksmanship and military tactics.

To not offer armed citizens training seems to be a shirking of their responsibilities.

Having an armed and well trained populace is how you guarantee the security of the state according to the founders.

Enough of this settling for being allowed to have guns. I want gun owners to have quality training provided by the state.

Government should offer weekend Appleseed type training once a year for all gun owners as well as a weekend at a respectable pistol training center. For advanced marksmen they could substitute training in tactics and guerrilla warfare, ie how to maximize the pain for invaders.

Looking at the 2nd Amendment that seems to me to be the logical conclusion of the complete expansion of our right to bear arms.

 >:D

Who do you suppose will be invading America? [popcorn]


Not that I dislike your idea .... but I don't think too many countries have an ability to invade us.





Except Mexico. :mad:
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 04:51:38 PM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on March 10, 2014, 02:58:23 PM
Who do you suppose will be invading America? [popcorn]


Not that I dislike your idea .... but I don't think too many countries have an ability to invade us.

DC seems like another country.
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Re: Re: Re: well regulated
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 05:19:32 PM »
Quote from: Roo_ster on March 10, 2014, 04:51:38 PM
DC seems like another country.

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Re: well regulated
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 05:26:44 PM »
That actually sounds like a good idea...
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 05:56:44 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on March 10, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
A strict interpretation of 2A would protect the right to own modern battle weapons more than grandpa's shotgun  ;)


You'd think that "sporting purpose" language would run afoul of the Miller decision. You'd think.
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2014, 09:45:20 PM »
I wouldn't trust the "state" to provide me with tactical training. It would be a conflict of interest.
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2014, 10:01:51 PM »
I think I'll find a lawyer and file a lawsuit against public schools because the 2A requires the schools to provide compulsory firearm training so the civilian militia will be well regulated.
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2014, 10:55:32 PM »
Quote from: grampster on March 11, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
I think I'll find a lawyer and file a lawsuit against public schools because the 2A requires the schools to provide compulsory firearm training so the civilian militia will be well regulated.


You would think that Eddie Eagle-type training would at least be common practice. I don't recall it being taught in my grade school.
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 09:24:39 PM »
Quote from: fistful on March 11, 2014, 10:55:32 PM

You would think that Eddie Eagle-type training would at least be common practice. I don't recall it being taught in my grade school.

Nope, nope. Can't do that. That's just NRA propaganda.
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 03:37:54 AM »
Quote from: bedlamite on March 12, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
Nope, nope. Can't do that. That's just NRA propaganda.

If they don't like Eddie Eagle here's an alternative...  http://shop.jpfo.org/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=26
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2014, 11:55:33 PM »
From Rob Pincus:

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For well over a decade, I have lamented the public education industry’s position on the danger of firearms being completely inconsistent with their position on any other “dangerous” topic. Drugs?  Danger=Education. Smoking? Danger=Education. Sexually Transmitted Disease? Danger=Education. Guns? Danger=Demonization. Those who establish the standards for our children’s education in our country would honestly rather talk about sex with middle schoolers than guns. And, if the kids themselves talk about guns, then they will get punished in one way or another… “for their own safety”. It’s ridiculous and it is a hypocritical position that is untenable in the face of any logical inquiry or critical thought. Yes, of course, guns can be dangerous… our kids should be educated about them at least as equally as they are educated about drugs, cars, fire and running with scissors.

http://www.icetraining.info/open-carry-constitutional-carry-and-mandatory-gun-training/
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Re: well regulated
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2014, 09:24:08 AM »
Why would "Rulers" teach you about topics that can be used to resist "Rulers"?
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