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Obama: We can't have encryption.
« on: March 11, 2016, 08:23:17 PM »
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-says-cannot-legal-case-apple-inc-223034884--finance.html

WTF. At least the real reason is getting some sunlight. Can't have encryption, we have to be able to catch terrorists........and enforce tax law.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2016, 08:56:49 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Obama
"What mechanisms do we have available to even do simple things like tax enforcement because if in fact you can't crack that at all, government can't get in, then everybody is walking around with a Swiss bank account in their pocket."

So he understands the point, he just doesn't get it.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 09:16:51 PM »
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"The question we now have to ask is: If technologically it is possible to make an impenetrable device or system where the encryption is so strong that there is no key, there's no door at all, then how do we apprehend the child pornographer, how do we solve or disrupt a terrorist plot?" he said.
So how do they know they are a child pornographer or a terrorist if the only evidence is on their phone?  Makes me think they just want to be able to plant whatever evidence they need.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 09:19:02 PM »
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"My conclusion so far is you cannot take an absolutist view."
They claim they don't want an absolutist view while they take an absolutist view that there is no privacy. 
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 09:40:21 PM »
George Orwell only missed by a couple of decades.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 09:51:55 PM »
Encryption makes it more difficult to subjugate the serf class. If communist usurper, obama, cared at all about this mythical 'rule of law,' several of his current and former cabinet members would be swinging for treason, an entire branch of federal 'law enforcement' (lol) would be disbanded with many of its former members facing firing squads or rotting in prison, and he himself, his entire party, and most of the opposition party would be investigated and imprisoned for political graft involving hundreds of billions of taxpayer wealth transfer. *expletive deleted*ck him, *expletive deleted*ck every last one of them *expletive deleted*s.
This kind of *expletive deleted*it makes me want to encrypt everything I do if only to give them all the  finger in my own little way.
Instead of fearing these aholes we need to challenge them- is arresting me or someone else for encryption (or any other of the picyunish bullshit laws for that matter) worth 1, 2, or 10 lives of their jackboot enforcers?  
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 10:02:51 PM »
Need to start sending large enormous amounts petabytes of encrypted data every-*expletive deleted*ing-where.
Said encrypted data should include such dangerous documents like the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and tens of thousands of nursery rhymes and naughty limericks.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 10:05:40 PM »
Quote from: brimic on March 11, 2016, 09:51:55 PM
Encryption makes it more difficult to subjugate the serf class. If communist usurper, obama, cared at all about this mythical 'rule of law,' several of his current and former cabinet members would be swinging for treason, an entire branch of federal 'law enforcement' (lol) would be disbanded with many of its former members facing firing squads or rotting in prison, and he himself, his entire party, and most of the opposition party would be investigated and imprisoned for political graft involving hundreds of billions of taxpayer wealth transfer. *expletive deleted*ck him, *expletive deleted*ck every last one of them *expletive deleted*s.
This kind of *expletive deleted*it makes me want to encrypt everything I do if only to give them all the  finger in my own little way.
Instead of fearing these aholes we need to challenge them- is arresting me or someone else for encryption (or any other of the picyunish bullshit laws for that matter) worth 1, 2, or 10 lives of their jackboot enforcers?  


^^this :old: :old:
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 11:27:07 PM »
I'm curious about what tax enforcement has to do with encryption?
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 11:38:33 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on March 11, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
I'm curious about what tax enforcement has to do with encryption?

I mow you lawn, you pay me lots of Bitcoin, I mow lots of other lawns for lots of bitcoins, i buy whatever I want with BC that never touches a bank. Meanwhile my day job goes in EFT to the bank, gets tax withheld. Ibrick of a phone offers no clue as to how I am living well, I play Sgt. Schultz.

I don't care for anarchists much, never had crypto-currency either, but then again I wasn't an AR-15 owning rabid gun nut either before 1994. And that bill alone made me impulse buy my first gun, other than the childhood .22 single shot, an AR-15.  Good job statists.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 11:54:36 PM »
Quote from: French G. on March 11, 2016, 11:38:33 PM
I mow you lawn, you pay me lots of Bitcoin, I mow lots of other lawns for lots of bitcoins, i buy whatever I want with BC that never touches a bank. Meanwhile my day job goes in EFT to the bank, gets tax withheld. Ibrick of a phone offers no clue as to how I am living well, I play Sgt. Schultz.



Or worse... some oxygen thieving agent of mordor with a stick up his ass comes for one if your kids because if unreported wages for the unauthorized child labor performed by them taking the initiative to be the neighborhood lawnmower.

The whole idea of making communications and transactions completely open to government interception and scrutiny not only completely fails the 'Jews in the attic test*', but should be setting off serious alarm bells to anyone who doesn't want to live in a totalitarian state.

*http://www.joehuffman.org/Freedom/JewsInTheAttic.htm
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Will this law make it difficult or impossible to protect innocent life from a government intent on their imprisonment or death
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2016, 12:08:24 AM »
John has a long mustache.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2016, 12:50:37 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on March 12, 2016, 12:08:24 AM
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Is that code??
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2016, 01:20:19 AM »
Quote from: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on March 12, 2016, 12:50:37 AM
Is that code??


No, not at all. I don't know what you're talking about. We're just discussing personal grooming here.
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2016, 01:50:32 AM »
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2016, 01:56:44 AM »
Quote from: fistful on March 12, 2016, 01:20:19 AM

No, not at all. I don't know what you're talking about. We're just discussing personal grooming here.

My bad. Carry on.  There is a fire at the insurance agency. [popcorn]
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2016, 09:03:22 AM »
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2016, 09:25:38 AM »
When in the course of human events...

Oh, wait...never mind....
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2016, 11:48:35 AM »
For those who are mystified, see the section on coded messages to the French Resistance during World War Two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Londres#Coded_messages

within the full article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Londres

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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2016, 06:40:09 PM »
They can have my encryption when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

Well I guess that is probably true. I use the fingerprint thingie(technical term) on my iPhone.  :rofl:
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2016, 09:53:39 PM »
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2016, 10:21:11 PM »
Quote from: HeroHog on March 12, 2016, 09:03:22 AM
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I am sad that no one picked up on that and translated or at least came back with the following line...  =(

https://youtu.be/G6D1YI-41ao

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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2016, 10:35:13 PM »
Quote from: HeroHog on March 12, 2016, 10:21:11 PM
I am sad that no one picked up on that and translated or at least came back with the following line...  =(

https://youtu.be/G6D1YI-41ao

"My nipples explode with delight!"


I've never seen that one! :rofl:
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2016, 03:06:12 AM »
Quote from: MikeB on March 12, 2016, 06:40:09 PM
They can have my encryption when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

Well I guess that is probably true. I use the fingerprint thingie(technical term) on my iPhone.  :rofl:
is it limited to ten attempts? >:D [popcorn]
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Re: Obama: We can't have encryption.
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2016, 01:00:53 PM »
Anti-encryption laws remind one of laws against body armor. "Citizen, you will not even attempt to protect yourself!" Why don't they just have us wear transparent smocks, and a ball and chain?
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