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Hawkmoon

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Computer font dilemma
« on: May 09, 2024, 05:17:27 PM »


My computers currently run Windows 10. For testing and comparison, I have installed on my primary desktop computer Microsoft Office 2019, SoftMaker Office 2024, and LibreOffice 7.x.x.

Some time ago I noticed that this computer had somehow, somewhere, installed a huge number of fonts, all beginning with "Noto." (More than 100 of them, IIRC.) A bit of research on the Internet has told me that these fonts originated with Google and that they are intended to provide similar-appearing fonts in every language. That's wonderful, but I don't write in every language. I write almost exclusively in American English, and a bit of Spanish and French once in a while.

When I discovered the Noto fonts on my computer, I laboriously went through and uninstalled all of them. They came back! I suspect they were installed when LibreOffice updated itself. Does that seem like a reasonable supposition? More importantly, is there any reason why I shouldn't delete them -- again? More importantly still, if I delete them, how can I prevent them from returning aggain and again ... on every computer I own? Did I miss an option in LibreOffice to skip installing Noto fonts?

I continually want to use a font manager to get some measure of control over all the fonts I have on my computers, but I have no idea how they are supposed to function. They don't have user manuals. In fact, I have FOUR of them: FontBase, Nexus Font, and High-Logic Main Font (all free), plus the font manager that was bundled with the font collection I bought from SoftMaker. The problem is, NONE of them come with a user manual, so after installing them on my computer I have zero idea how to use them. I have made repeated requests on the SoftMaker support forum for a font manager user manual, and the answer is always, "It's easy! (I've been using it for twenty years, so I know.)" [Not helpful]

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Re: Computer font dilemma
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2024, 07:07:59 PM »

My computers currently run Windows 10. For testing and comparison, I have installed on my primary desktop computer Microsoft Office 2019, SoftMaker Office 2024, and LibreOffice 7.x.x.

Some time ago I noticed that this computer had somehow, somewhere, installed a huge number of fonts, all beginning with "Noto." (More than 100 of them, IIRC.) A bit of research on the Internet has told me that these fonts originated with Google and that they are intended to provide similar-appearing fonts in every language. That's wonderful, but I don't write in every language. I write almost exclusively in American English, and a bit of Spanish and French once in a while.

When I discovered the Noto fonts on my computer, I laboriously went through and uninstalled all of them. They came back! I suspect they were installed when LibreOffice updated itself. Does that seem like a reasonable supposition?

I checked one of my laptops.  Win 11, Libre Office 24.2.  Control panel/fonts is showing 14 Noto fonts.  No other office other than the stub of 365 that a bare install of W11 puts there.

  So, maybe they came from Libre.

(Wikipedia on Noto fonts notes that Libra since 6.0 installs Noto fonts)

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Re: Computer font dilemma
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2024, 10:40:05 PM »
Update: I said "over 100" Noto fonts. In fact, it's 394 fonts in all. I just deleted them. Now I have to do the same thing on six more computers. And there doesn't appear to be a way to prevent LibreOffice from installing them, so the next time LO updates I guess I'll have to do the same thing all over.
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Re: Computer font dilemma
« Reply #3 on: Today at 07:10:41 AM »
Why are you deleting them instead of just ignoring them?

Are they causing functionality issues?
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Re: Computer font dilemma
« Reply #4 on: Today at 08:39:12 AM »
Why are you deleting them instead of just ignoring them?

Are they causing functionality issues?

Most sources agree that too many fonts slows down Windows performance, so that's a potential concern. The larger concern for me, which I suppose is a "functionality issue," is that I use word processing software (primarily MS Word, but also SoftMaker Office and LibreOffice for a number of different tasks, including formatting books for print. When using the drop-down menu to change the font for a selection of text or in a style, those 394 fonts belong to 45 font families. So that makes my drop-down font list 45 entries longer, and to reach anything lower in the alphabet than "Noto" I have to scroll through all of those 45 Noto fonts -- which I will never use.

It isn't be an issue at work. At work, the town has standardized on Calibri, so my document templates are preset and, if I need to make a new one, Calibri is near the top of the list. At home, it's a nuisance.
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Re: Computer font dilemma
« Reply #5 on: Today at 11:36:18 AM »
Are you sure it's not Softmaker Office?  I checked a different computer.  My work PC, Win 10, Libre 7.something and MS Office 2010.  17 Noto fonts.
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