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Title: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 22, 2009, 12:17:42 AM
The media's infatuation with and providing cover for President Obama is old, old news. Whether the MSM is ignoring the illegalities of the automaker bailouts, the cost of the proposed health care bill, or any of the other serious Obama stories, it's been covered on some website somewhere.

What I find interesting are the almost daily news snippets about nothing. I don't know if your local rag has similar stories, but the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has been running small stories almost daily since the swearing-in.

Among some of the recent hard new stories about Obama are:

1. Obama's kids have to do chores (in today's paper).

2. Obama ate a hamburger (this was a story a few days ago).

3. Obama went swimming.

4. Obama played basketball.

5. Barack and Michelle like to snuggle.

As I said, the paper has been running these little fluff stories since January 20th. Certainly there are other more newsworthy events, yet the editors choose to devote precious column space (especially considering that the paper is now just a few pages long) to the most trivial events in Obama's day.

Even Elvis or the Beatles didn't get this kind of press. It's more than disgusting, it's weird. I'd like to sit an editor down and have him explain the decision to run a story about Obama going out for a hamburger.

Or maybe I wouldn't want to hear the explanation.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Boomhauer on June 22, 2009, 12:55:31 AM
Every damn day it's something about Obama.

I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about what Michelle Obama wore today or whatever. Sick and damned tired. I DON'T CARE what she wore.

It's worshiping Obama, IMHO. And it's scary. The press should always be looking to dig up dirt on politicians, not groveling at their feet.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 22, 2009, 01:08:39 AM
Even Bill Maher has managed to be less than completely useless, by ridiculing the media about this. 
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: taurusowner on June 22, 2009, 01:09:35 AM
Well not too long ago one of the talking heads in the state-run media did outright call BHO a God.  So this kind of fluff is not surprising.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: FTA84 on June 22, 2009, 01:29:49 AM
FoxNews had some comments about this -- to the tune that he was elected because of his "rock star" aura and not his political policies.  Thus the MSM is reporting on him in an according fashion, turning the major news outlet in mini-versions of US weekly.  If it is good enough to get him elected, it is good enough to sell news.

Slightly offtopic:  Fox claims that they have increased market share greatly since the the other channels fell in love with Obama. Is there data available to confirm this?
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: LadySmith on June 22, 2009, 01:51:43 AM
I saw, but did not read, a blurb about him swatting a fly.  :|
Talk about ridiculous.  ;/
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Viking on June 22, 2009, 02:21:23 AM
The similarities to the "news" from North Korea, especially those about the so-called/claimed achievements of that midget Elvis-lookalike leader of theirs, is rather striking...
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: restorer on June 22, 2009, 02:22:08 AM
The same blurb had a sub-blurb :lol: of him taking another shot at Fox News for not sucking up to him and agreeing with everything he says. Metaphor? I know he would like to swat Fox News like he squashed that fly. Maybe somebody could do an edit to dub the audio of his comments about Fox over the video of His Nibs swatting the fly.

What I don't understand is how the other media outlets can condone his repeated shots at Fox. A President complaining about a dissenting media outlet? Can anyone there say "Hugo Chavez"? Can anyone there say "First Amendment Rights"? Obviously not.

I've got a new oxymoron...."Journalistic standards."
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: longeyes on June 22, 2009, 02:37:01 AM
The alternative to the slobber would be to seriously examine the weighty political issues of our day--and that is the LAST thing the MSM (or liberals) wish to do.  The personality cult of Obama is the Hamburger Helper of what passes for serious political discussion in this age of deliberate obfuscation and disinformation.  Some of the journalists are pepetual adolescents but many know what they are about in clouding the truth.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: El Tejon on June 22, 2009, 07:49:39 AM
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The similarities to the "news" from North Korea, especially those about the so-called/claimed achievements of that midget Elvis-lookalike leader of theirs, is rather striking...

You mean how the U.S. Media is now claiming that Obama invented the steam engine and the helicopter. =D
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Viking on June 22, 2009, 08:28:08 AM
You mean how the U.S. Media is now claiming that Obama invented the steam engine and the helicopter. =D
Hey, they claim he's going to fix the financial crisis. Compared to that, Kim Jong's perfect golf round seems rather petty.
Besides, everyone knows that Big Brother invented the steam engine, the helicopter, the airplane and all that.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: grampster on June 22, 2009, 09:22:12 AM
I say let the MSM continue to do what they have been doing.  There is an economic law, The Law of Diminishing Returns, that will begin to assert itself in this instance. 

Using a candy bar for an example for those of you on the east and west coasts:  The first bite tastes wonderful.  The second and third may also taste good.  After the 4th the taste begins to diminish; after the fifth, one may begin to pay less attention except that there is something in one's mouth;  the sixth might start to become a chore to swallow; by the seventh and eighth..........one begins to feel satiated to the point where nausea overcomes delightfulness....and so on and so on.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 22, 2009, 09:58:13 AM
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I saw, but did not read, a blurb about him swatting a fly.

I read that piece. PETA was actually quoted, something about respecting all life.  ;/

I'm not talking about softball editorials on policy issues. God knows there's enough of those. I'm talking about articles of absolutely no substance or consequence that are obviously put there to simply put forth the human side of Obama, day in and day out. I'm expecting to see a headline any day now that reads, "Obama Farts".
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: freakazoid on June 22, 2009, 10:27:16 AM
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I saw, but did not read, a blurb about him swatting a fly.

I read that piece. PETA was actually quoted, something about respecting all life.  rolleyes

PETA was apparently freaking out about him swatting that fly.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Standing Wolf on June 22, 2009, 10:29:16 AM
[sincerity] Yes, but the commoners would be unhappy if they didn't have someone to look up to. Their lives would feel empty, meaningless. [/sincerity]
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: eyebrows on June 22, 2009, 11:09:48 AM
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I saw, but did not read, a blurb about him swatting a fly.

I read that piece. PETA was actually quoted, something about respecting all life.  rolleyes

The other day I read a story about him swatting the fly. They actually compared him to Lincoln... for swatting a fly.
See apparently Lincoln had a photo taken and in that photo there is also a fly. Of course that means Obama is Lincoln reborn and we should all support everything he does. At least thats what I got out of it.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Balog on June 22, 2009, 11:31:40 AM
Well not too long ago one of the talking heads in the state-run media did outright call BHO a God.  So this kind of fluff is not surprising.

O rly? When/where was this? I hadn't heard.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: makattak on June 22, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
O rly? When/where was this? I hadn't heard.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/06/05/newsweek-s-evan-thomas-obama-sort-god

Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: MattC on June 22, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
Dick, I think part of what you're seeing an a shift in published content as a reaction to economic pressures.  The print media had been a bit of a hold-out against what you saw happening with the vulgarization of television news.  The publishing of "fluff," or emotive, content may be a business decision to combat market perceptions of the print media--i.e. that it is an old or boring medium that's for Grandpa.  They've been losing readership for decades without really changing their business model.

Grumpy people like us now have to take the initiative to find multiple credible niche news sources to check online rather than going to the doorstep for the daily news.  On a somewhat related note, it surprises and impresses me how relatively unbiased and fact-oriented NPR is compared to most commercial news sources.  At least when they make a mistake or show bias, they'll read comments from their website that disagree with them the next day.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Jocassee on June 22, 2009, 03:57:42 PM
Dick, I think part of what you're seeing an a shift in published content as a reaction to economic pressures.  The print media had been a bit of a hold-out against what you saw happening with the vulgarization of television news.  The publishing of "fluff," or emotive, content may be a business decision to combat market perceptions of the print media--i.e. that it is an old or boring medium that's for Grandpa.  They've been losing readership for decades without really changing their business model.

Grumpy people like us now have to take the initiative to find multiple credible niche news sources to check online rather than going to the doorstep for the daily news.  On a somewhat related note, it surprises and impresses me how relatively unbiased and fact-oriented NPR is compared to most commercial news sources.  At least when they make a mistake or show bias, they'll read comments from their website that disagree with them the next day.

One reason I continue to listen to NPR is because even though they have a distinct liberal bias, they do actually research, do good, probing interviews, and try to give a picture of a given situation that is clear to those who follow the news. They are liberal, but obviously there is no conservative equivalent, and they are still the best.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: MechAg94 on June 22, 2009, 04:19:42 PM
The same blurb had a sub-blurb :lol: of him taking another shot at Fox News for not sucking up to him and agreeing with everything he says. Metaphor? I know he would like to swat Fox News like he squashed that fly. Maybe somebody could do an edit to dub the audio of his comments about Fox over the video of His Nibs swatting the fly.

What I don't understand is how the other media outlets can condone his repeated shots at Fox. A President complaining about a dissenting media outlet? Can anyone there say "Hugo Chavez"? Can anyone there say "First Amendment Rights"? Obviously not.

I've got a new oxymoron...."Journalistic standards."
What happened to the journalist who would take it as a badge of honor if a President or politician complained about them? 
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 22, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
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What happened to the journalist who would take it as a badge of honor if a President or politician complained about them?

Bob Woodward was a Republican, but that didn't stop him from going after Nixon like a pit bull. I guess Obama is more of a threat than Nixon was.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Boomhauer on June 22, 2009, 06:40:48 PM
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What I don't understand is how the other media outlets can condone his repeated shots at Fox. A President complaining about a dissenting media outlet? Can anyone there say "Hugo Chavez"? Can anyone there say "First Amendment Rights"? Obviously not.

First amendment rights only apply to leftists. Dissent is only patriotic if practiced by leftists. Conservatives and libertarians are subhuman scum who ought to be killed off.

And that has been stated by many leftists.
 



Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 22, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
Using a candy bar for an example for those of you on the east and west coasts:  The first bite tastes wonderful.  The second and third may also taste good.  After the 4th the taste begins to diminish; after the fifth, one may begin to pay less attention except that there is something in one's mouth;  the sixth might start to become a chore to swallow; by the seventh and eighth..........one begins to feel satiated to the point where nausea overcomes delightfulness....and so on and so on.

You need to have that checked out.  Candy bars are good all the way through, and the last bite is supposed to make you want to start on another one, only King-sized next time.  You may need a higher quality of candy bar.  I suggest Snickers, Zagnut or Payday.


And fifty demerits to the guy who suggested that Obama passes gas.  You know he only exudes charm, good will and deep, world-changing intellect. 
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: LadySmith on June 23, 2009, 12:33:40 AM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/06/05/newsweek-s-evan-thomas-obama-sort-god

Well, that was downright creepifying.  =|

This is the same Evan Thomas, the Editor for Newsweek, who in Feb. 2007 said, "Our job is to bash the President."

If I wore a tinfoil hat, I'd start wondering if the media has suffered a sudden influx of pod people.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: LadySmith on June 23, 2009, 05:58:08 AM
What happened to the journalist who would take it as a badge of honor if a President or politician complained about them? 

They, like Evan Thomas, have been assimilated.  =(
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: grampster on June 23, 2009, 09:01:21 AM
"I suggest Snickers,..."

Ahhhhh, Snickers...mmmmmmmsnickersssssssmypreciousssssssss....must. contrlo. sef. mus.contrfl.se.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: brimic on June 23, 2009, 11:51:49 AM
When do they start painting murals of Obama on the sides of buildings or start putting up billboards with 'Papa' Obamas smiling face on it so that we can see him wherever we go? We can't be far from that point right now.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: longeyes on June 23, 2009, 11:56:03 AM
Tyrannies look different now.  These are subtle times in the West.   The new dictators have flacks with seven-figure incomes to husband their image.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Tim L on June 23, 2009, 07:15:10 PM
When do they start painting murals of Obama on the sides of buildings or start putting up billboards with 'Papa' Obamas smiling face on it so that we can see him wherever we go? We can't be far from that point right now.

They already are, see this post from dogmush way back in December, copied from the thread     
They're doing more worship posters, for the inauguration this time.  I'm not sure if there is anything newer than these out there, but...


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Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: taurusowner on June 23, 2009, 08:29:45 PM
If I saw any of those on a wall in my neighborhood, especially that last one, I would take some cardboard and make some stencils to say
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

In nice, neat, large letters.  Then paint them right over the face of Big Brother.



Yes, I really would do that.  Yes, I know it would be considered "tagging" by the authorities.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: brimic on June 23, 2009, 10:48:37 PM
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f I saw any of those on a wall in my neighborhood, especially that last one, I would take some cardboard and make some stencils to say
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

In nice, neat, large letters.  Then paint them right over the face of Big Brother.



Yes, I really would do that.  Yes, I know it would be considered "tagging" by the authorities.

I was just thinking that there would be a lot of irony in local gangs tagging those monuments.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 23, 2009, 11:35:00 PM
For a long time I've thought it would be a good tactic to have murals of Obama everywhere. The best would have his chin high up in the air (looking down his nose on the rest of us), and done really Soviet style.

His poll numbers are going to decline, and the constant presence of his face will cause more people to hate him.

Back to the slobberfest: today's Milwaukee Journal had an article about the tobacco bill, but it wasn't about the bill. It was another fluff piece, this time about Obama's struggles with smoking. There was a small sidebar with a brief summary of the highlights of the bill.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Waitone on June 24, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
A while back Dick Morris predicted Obama would decline in the polls and it would happen quickly.  He then said given time Obama's policies would become radioactive.  Interesting how he separates personal appeal from policy appeal.

In any case I wonder if yesterday's press conference was the start of the turning.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: longeyes on June 24, 2009, 10:24:27 PM
Maybe we'd all better not be too smug about what's going down in Iran...
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 25, 2009, 01:01:31 AM
Well, today saw yet another story in the Journal Sentinel about Obama's smoking. Don't worry, though, he's trying really hard to quit. He also promised Michelle that he'd quit after the campaign ended. That means that either his campaign is continuing (which it always seems to be), or that he lied to his wife, too. I'm aghast.

An article on Obama's comments on the protests in Iran contained a paragraph I thought was telling. In it, the newspaper remarked about the "strained relationship" between the Bush Administration and Tehran.

Strained relationship under Bush? Are these reporters 10 years old, too young to remember the hostages seized in 1979? Or is it their contention that the hostage crisis was Bush's fault as well?
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: restorer on June 25, 2009, 01:40:50 AM
Speaking of slobbering love affair, did anyone else bother watching the ABC informercial last night? BHO was at his obfuscatin' best but Charlie Gibson was brilliant indeed. He deserves a "Best Supporting Actor" award for his role as a carny shill in Barak Obama's  "Let's Hide The Weinie!" show.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: BReilley on June 29, 2009, 02:49:07 AM
I'm expecting to see a headline any day now that reads, "Obama Farts".
...sub-headline: "and it doesn't stink"
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Regolith on June 29, 2009, 04:44:41 AM
Speaking of slobbering love affair, did anyone else bother watching the ABC informercial last night?

Nope.  And apparently nobody else did, either; it had lower ratings than a CSI: New York re-run.   :laugh:
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: TechMan on June 30, 2009, 10:51:52 AM
Well, today saw yet another story in the Journal Sentinel about Obama's smoking. Don't worry, though, he's trying really hard to quit. He also promised Michelle that he'd quit after the campaign ended. That means that either his campaign is continuing (which it always seems to be), or that he lied to his wife, too. I'm aghast.

Maybe he didn't lie, but he failed.  :O
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: sanglant on June 30, 2009, 11:00:44 AM
Maybe he didn't lie, but he failed.  :O
the obama fail, imposable the one cannot fail. :angel:
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: LadySmith on July 31, 2009, 07:25:55 AM
I apologize for the necropost. I couldn't help but think of this thread when I read this:

http://carrollspaper.1upsoftware.com/print.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=8449

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Carroll woman's answer to highly visible Obama: Selling her televisions

By DOUGLAS BURNS
Staff Writer

Wednesday, July 29, 2009


A 78-year-old Carroll woman says she's so tired of seeing President Barack Obama on the airwaves that she's selling her television sets - two of them.

Deloris Nissen, a retired nurses' aide and former Kmart employee who was raised on a farm near Audubon, placed a classified advertisement with The Daily Times Herald for Friday's paper.

In the $5.50 ad, Nissen tells readers she has two television sets for sale.

The reason: "Obama on every channel and station."

In an interview Nissen said she is serious about selling two TVs - and genuine about her disgust with what she believes to be an overexposed president.

"I just got tired of watching him on every channel," Nissen said. "I thought, my gosh, does he ever stay at the White House?"

Nissen, who voted for U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the 2008 presidential election, said she could live with seeing Obama come on television to make serious announcements. But he seems to be on all the time, Nissen said.

When the president does appear on a channel she happens to be watching, Nissen said, she quickly turns.

"I have the remote real handy," Nissen said. "I have the batteries. I'm ready for him."

Nissen's annoyance with the president as a frequent presence on her television doesn't mean she'll abandon the medium altogether.

She's keeping a bigger flat-screen television and selling an older 20-inch Sony and possibly a 13-inch set.

"It's too heavy," Nissen said of the 20-inch TV. "I can't handle it anymore."

That said, she doesn't plan on selling it for less than $100 - even if Obama was just on Tuesday pitching his health-care-reform plans.

Obama's own advisers and political observers across the ideological spectrum have for months debated whether the now popular president is overexposed.

For her part, Nissen said she expects to take some flack for the advertisement in her local paper. After all, Obama did win Iowa and Carroll County in the 2008 election.

But she's not worried about any criticism.

"I'm an old lady, and I don't care," Nissen said.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 31, 2009, 07:47:38 AM
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She's keeping a bigger flat-screen television and selling an older 20-inch Sony and possibly a 13-inch set.


She found a hilarious gimmick for advertising her old TV sets for sale.  Good for her.   =)
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: longeyes on July 31, 2009, 11:40:44 AM
She can sell the tv's, but she can't sell the signal bouncing around, unsolicited, inside her head...

The Glorious Visage of Obama is the stained glass window of the new medievalism.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Scout26 on July 31, 2009, 07:59:45 PM
Can't stop the signal.....
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: HankB on August 03, 2009, 09:21:03 AM
For a long time I've thought it would be a good tactic to have murals of Obama everywhere. The best would have his chin high up in the air (looking down his nose on the rest of us), and done really Soviet style.
I recall reading that a public shool put up pictures of BHO in all the halls and classrooms . . . they did not have pictures of Bush during his term.

No politics in government schools, folks . . . move along, move along, nothing to see here . . .
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: longeyes on August 03, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
The Obamas of history grow less popular, but they do not step down or even lose elections. they just keep tightening their grip.
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: wacki on August 04, 2009, 01:00:19 AM
Well not too long ago one of the talking heads in the state-run media did outright call BHO a God.  So this kind of fluff is not surprising.

???????
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: Marnoot on August 04, 2009, 01:36:58 AM
???????
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/06/05/newsweek-s-evan-thomas-obama-sort-god (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/06/05/newsweek-s-evan-thomas-obama-sort-god)
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: makattak on August 04, 2009, 08:40:26 AM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/06/05/newsweek-s-evan-thomas-obama-sort-god (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/06/05/newsweek-s-evan-thomas-obama-sort-god)

Wow, it's like that question was already asked and answered in exactly the same way...
Title: Re: The absurdities of the media's Obama slobberfest
Post by: charby on August 04, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
I apologize for the necropost. I couldn't help but think of this thread when I read this:

http://carrollspaper.1upsoftware.com/print.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=8449


Those crazy Iowa people. :)