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The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« on: January 13, 2021, 02:39:28 PM »
Holy crap these people are stupid and sheltered.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/13/ratio-alert-nyt-journo-shocked-to-discover-that-regular-humans-use-zip-ties-for-legal-purposes/

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I bet that everyone who writes for the New York Times has a tool box that only consists of a eyeglass screwdriver and 3 leftover Allen wrenches from IKEA
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 02:42:44 PM »
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 02:44:59 PM »
So the reporter was referring to the flex cuffs that one capitol rioter was carrying, right?  And they weren't aware that zip ties is a generic term for a product with much broader uses?
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 02:50:34 PM »
Quote from: cordex on January 13, 2021, 02:44:59 PM
So the reporter was referring to the flex cuffs that one capitol rioter was carrying, right?  And they weren't aware that zip ties is a generic term for a product with much broader uses?

Yes, I believe so. To be fair, a lot of people don't know that flex cuffs are a different design, however I would figure that would be more along the lines of someone buying zip ties to use as cuffs. I've definitely read fiction books and watched shows where somebody said something along the lines of "toss me the zip ties" when talking about restraining someone.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 03:02:50 PM »
Regular Human Zip Ties are OK, it's the assault Zip Ties that should be outlawed.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 03:06:54 PM »
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 03:11:45 PM »
Quote from: bedlamite on January 13, 2021, 03:06:54 PM
That's racist. you need these:

https://www.amazon.com/Lenitech-Multi-Purpose-Assorted-Colored-Pieces/dp/B07PML1MXR

But only Black Ties Matter
All Ties Matter is racist you racist B
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 03:38:31 PM »
How dense can someone be? 
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2021, 03:43:46 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on January 13, 2021, 03:38:31 PM
How dense can someone be? 

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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2021, 04:32:25 PM »
Reminds me of the reporter that thought foam ear plugs were special rubber bullets of some kind.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2014/08/17/huffington-post-reporter-in-ferguson-are-ear-plugs-rubber-bullets/
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2021, 06:10:34 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on January 13, 2021, 03:38:31 PM
How dense can someone be? 

The left seems to take statements like that as a challenge.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2021, 07:04:13 PM »
Quote from: griz on January 13, 2021, 03:02:50 PM
Regular Human Zip Ties are OK, it's the assault Zip Ties that should be outlawed.

But only when used in the commission of a felony.

Like body armor.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 05:00:27 AM »
So how many sets of purpose built, single use restraints do you guys normally keep on hand?

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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 08:52:37 AM »
Quote from: dogmush on January 14, 2021, 05:00:27 AM
So how many sets of purpose built, single use restraints do you guys normally keep on hand?



Asking because I haven't seen anything either way: Is there evidence that the guys at the WH had flex cuffs, or did they in fact have zip ties?

As far as how many I keep on hand, I'm running low, but at least the pastures are well-fertilized now.  =D
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 09:08:38 AM »
Quote from: Ben on January 14, 2021, 08:52:37 AM
Asking because I haven't seen anything either way: Is there evidence that the guys at the WH had flex cuffs, or did they in fact have zip ties?

As far as how many I keep on hand, I'm running low, but at least the pastures are well-fertilized now.  =D
The pictures I saw were flex cuffs.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2021, 09:21:30 AM »
Expect that there will be a move in some places to ban or restrict zip ties.

Don't laugh - some places have banned or restricted small ziplock bags and Erlenmeyer flasks because they can be used in the illegal drug trade. (I didn't know I was a sub-10 year old druggie when I got my first chemistry set.  :facepalm: )
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2021, 09:26:18 AM »
Quote from: HankB on January 14, 2021, 09:21:30 AM
Expect that there will be a move in some places to ban or restrict zip ties.

Don't laugh - some places have banned or restricted small ziplock bags and Erlenmeyer flasks because they can be used in the illegal drug trade. (I didn't know I was a sub-10 year old druggie when I got my first chemistry set.  :facepalm: )

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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2021, 10:23:38 AM »
Quote from: Ben on January 14, 2021, 08:52:37 AM
Asking because I haven't seen anything either way: Is there evidence that the guys at the WH had flex cuffs, or did they in fact have zip ties?

As far as how many I keep on hand, I'm running low, but at least the pastures are well-fertilized now.  =D

That's why I asked.  Yeah the NYT lady that doesn't know what a zip tie is is dumb, but the media is calling restraints "zip ties".  Kinda hard to have reasonable conversations about things when the people don't even know what they are saying.




Those are flex cuffs.  In a free society you should be able to have whatever you want as long as you don't mess with other people, but the NYT editor is correct that there are pretty limited uses for flex cuffs outside restraining people.  (I'll give you one:  I've used them to hold a chain link fence gate closed after a dog figured out how to open it.)
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2021, 10:30:44 AM »
Quote from: dogmush on January 14, 2021, 10:23:38 AM
Kinda hard to have reasonable conversations about things when the people don't even know what they are saying.


Welcome to congress where they make up and pass laws on things they have zero understanding of all day long.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2021, 10:48:57 AM »
Well, we call them Lawmakers and guess what?

Actually, I've found a pack of assorted size Bungee Cords to be much more useful.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2021, 12:21:27 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on January 14, 2021, 10:30:44 AM
Welcome to congress where they make up and pass laws on things they have zero understanding of all day long.
Technically, they don't make up or write laws.  They each have a small army of staffers and assistants who throw together bits and pieces of laws written by lobbyists.  I wonder how many of them ever even read what they vote on even if they have it.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2021, 12:46:52 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on January 14, 2021, 05:00:27 AM
So how many sets of purpose built, single use restraints do you guys normally keep on hand?



I keep two sets in my flight bag.  I probably have a few more around the house somewhere.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2021, 02:35:09 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on January 14, 2021, 12:46:52 PM
I keep two sets in my flight bag.  I probably have a few more around the house somewhere.

Flight attendants are kinkier than I thought.
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2021, 02:41:30 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on January 14, 2021, 02:35:09 PM
Flight attendants are kinkier than I thought.

True.  The bad news is they are mostly gay men these days. 
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Re: The Legal Use of Zip Ties
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2021, 03:03:14 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on January 14, 2021, 02:41:30 PM
True.  The bad news is they are mostly gay men these days. 
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