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great news for Firefly fans!!!
« on: December 07, 2007, 10:27:53 PM »
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 Milwaukie, OR - There's plenty of reason for the Browncoats to look forward to 2008. Dark Horse has a whole lot of Serenity coming down the pipeline! First and foremost is the new Serenity comics series that is due out in March. This three-issue series, Serenity: Better Days, is a step back in time to the early years of the Firefly crew, and the fledgling gang's turbulent attempts to cope with success after they pull off their first successful heist. It features the same creative team as Those Left Behind, with the story by Joss Whedon and Brett Matthews, art by Will Conrad, and Adam Hughes providing all three covers this time.
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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 02:49:46 AM »
No thanks.  I don't still live with my parents.  I'll keep my digits crossed for another movie or more episodes one day.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2007, 04:15:45 AM »
When the uber-nerds start segregating themselves into hierarchies, you know we're in trouble.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2007, 04:25:46 AM »
When the uber-nerds start segregating themselves into hierarchies, you know we're in trouble.

Hey!

Just remember, we're all above the furries!

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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2007, 04:36:19 AM »
I hope they're better than the comics they made that took place between Firefly and Serenity.   Those were awful.
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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2007, 04:40:06 AM »
When the uber-nerds start segregating themselves into hierarchies, you know we're in trouble.

Hey!

Just remember, we're all above the furries!

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There you go with the abridged version.  Here's the unabridged geek hierarchy from the originator:

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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2007, 06:21:27 AM »
No thanks.  I don't still live with my parents.  I'll keep my digits crossed for another movie or more episodes one day.

There's some serious graphic novels out there. Black-and-white shaded noir things that tell stories of real people.

It's just the people who still read superhero comics who worry me.

BTW, that "geek hierarchy" thing? Ever since seeing how the Lucasarts crew made "used future" props out of sheer junk and made it believable, I've been interested in original prop construction, so I read Cinefex and the like. (Except I always made my own original stuff, not copies of stuff other people did.) Apparently, in Firefly, one of the doctor's medical tools has the "geek hierarchy" on its screen as a translite, but it's too small to read on TV.  cheesy


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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2007, 07:01:50 AM »
Bryan, I'm glad that chart doesn't include "self-published sci-fi/fantasy authors."  Without it I'm at the top!

Unfortunately I'm sure that I'd fall somewhere between "authors who sold their work to traditional publishing houses on the merit of the story," "authors who sold total crap that for some reason sells in the real market" and "people who post stories on LiveJournal or blogs and consider themselves published."
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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2007, 07:05:55 AM »
I'm not quite sure where the perception that published authors are something like professors who live in castles came from.
Maybe the few that make the media view, like Rowling...but most of the hacks who crank out books aren't living any sort of high life.

I've seen some published science fiction authors, as in "best sellers", whatever that's worth now anyway, who were poorly dressed unkempt waddling slobs.


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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2007, 07:36:59 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2007, 08:01:04 AM »
I have tried reading the Serenity comics, and Buffy Season Eight (I get them all for free) and even some Alan Moore graphic novels... and I just don't get it. The comic books are just the right length for a, uh, 'constitutional' but that's about it. None of the art is particularly impressive, and the writing certainly can't compare to fiction or even dialogue for the screen. I certainly wouldn't pay $3 a pop for ten minutes of enjoyment.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2007, 08:39:00 AM »
You can't leave out Summer Glau from post Firefly/Serenity fantasies.

She is also starring in the upcoming Sara Connor Chronicles    MMmmm
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2007, 08:58:32 AM »
You can't leave out Summer Glau from post Firefly/Serenity fantasies.

She is also starring in the upcoming Sara Connor Chronicles    MMmmm


Dude, the character she played was mentioned several times as being 17 years old. I don't know what her actual age is, but once I heard that, it's "kid", not "attractive".




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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2007, 11:05:09 AM »
I have tried reading the Serenity comics, and Buffy Season Eight (I get them all for free) and even some Alan Moore graphic novels... and I just don't get it. The comic books are just the right length for a, uh, 'constitutional' but that's about it. None of the art is particularly impressive, and the writing certainly can't compare to fiction or even dialogue for the screen. I certainly wouldn't pay $3 a pop for ten minutes of enjoyment.

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2007, 11:15:33 AM »
Aaaaah, the intense meaning only manga can provide...  rolleyes

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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2007, 01:00:20 PM »
I came late to the firefly series after seeing the movie, I never saw the tv series until after the movie then I just rented the tv series.

I didn't know there was all that stuff out there already, I just put it up because I know we have some firefly fans here.

I was directed to that site by one of the right wing blogs I like.

I might buy them read them once and keep them as a collectors Item.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2007, 02:47:23 PM »
Aaaaah, the intense meaning only manga can provide...  rolleyes

Ah yes.  One medium (comics/graphic novels/manga, call them what you will) is painted with a broad brush because  of the most sensationalist work.  Manga (and anime, for that matter) is a medium, not a genre.  Maybe we should judge all American movies based on the porn industry.

But then I'm odd.  When I meet someone who thinks they have anime or manga pigenoholed I like to make them read or watch Maison Ikkoku.  No giant robots, no weapons, no aliens, no rape, no alien tentacles, no half dressed sexpots (okay, *one* half dressed sexpot, but with Akemi it's more of a running joke than anything truly sexual).  Just a good story that goes on for 96 episodes of a TV series or 15 volumes of manga.
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Re: great news for Firefly fans!!!
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2007, 03:33:24 PM »
I grew up involved in a chain of comic book/game/etc. stores. I will never be able to get past my early childhood prejudice against Japanimation and live-action role-playing.

Those fans were always the creepiest.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2007, 04:54:34 PM »
That was a bit tongue in cheek. 

I guess my problem with anime/manga "hyping" is that once you strip the stories of their "manga-ness" there's no more "there" there than in any other storytelling medium.  Their distinctiveness comes from the medium, not from the actual content.

Without the particularities of Japanese drawing styles the stories themselves are just something I could read in a book, just as from any other culture, without needing subtitles.  There are only so many stories in the world, it's the means in which they are presented that give them uniqueness.

At any rate, Japanese cartooning tends toward melodrama and soap opera tropes anyway, take away the mecha, aliens and "energy" (the things that distinguish Japanimation) and I have no more reason to be interested in their soap operas than I do the "unique" telenovelas on Univision.

Aaaaah, the intense meaning only manga can provide...  rolleyes

Ah yes.  One medium (comics/graphic novels/manga, call them what you will) is painted with a broad brush because  of the most sensationalist work.  Manga (and anime, for that matter) is a medium, not a genre.  Maybe we should judge all American movies based on the porn industry.

But then I'm odd.  When I meet someone who thinks they have anime or manga pigenoholed I like to make them read or watch Maison Ikkoku.  No giant robots, no weapons, no aliens, no rape, no alien tentacles, no half dressed sexpots (okay, *one* half dressed sexpot, but with Akemi it's more of a running joke than anything truly sexual).  Just a good story that goes on for 96 episodes of a TV series or 15 volumes of manga.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2007, 06:14:06 PM »
Carebear, I suggest you watch "Grave of the Fireflies".

Talk about serious anime...

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Taking place toward the end of World War II in Japan, Grave of the Fireflies is the poignant tale of the relationship between two orphaned children, Seita (清太) and his younger sister Setsuko (節子). The children lose their mother in the firebombing of Kobe, and their father in service to the Imperial Japanese Navy, and as a result they are forced to try to survive amidst widespread famine and the callous indifference of their countrymen (some of whom are their own extended family members).

It doesn't blame anyone, if anything, it makes Japanese society during the war look very bad, in how they treat the orphans...and has a strong message about how pride can result in self-destruction. But it's extremely heavy material. And it's as powerful as Schindler's List.


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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2007, 07:04:05 PM »
I didn't say anime couldn't be serious and meaningful, just that it holds no particular supremacy in that or any other area other than "Japanese-ness".

It may be "as powerful as" Schindler's List but that doesn't make it "unique" in any  meaningful way other than that it's animated in the Japanese style. 

A book or movie or play on the subject by  someone with similar experience as the animator would display the same quality.

The very fact that it, like Schindler's List in film, has to be cherry-picked out of the vast morass of typical anime does nothing to counter the fact that most anime is tripe, just as most film is porn.

However, tentacle rape and loli is far more prevalent in anime/mange than any comparable perversion is common in any other non-Japanese fare, written, film or cartoon.
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2007, 07:06:37 PM »
It may be "as powerful as" Schindler's List but that doesn't make it "unique" in any  meaningful way other than that it's animated in the Japanese style.

How about that the author that wrote it did so as an apology to his sister, whose death due to malnutrition he felt to be his fault? It's based on real events.

I think that's rather unique.


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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2007, 07:37:35 PM »
It may be "as powerful as" Schindler's List but that doesn't make it "unique" in any  meaningful way other than that it's animated in the Japanese style.

How about that the author that wrote it did so as an apology to his sister, whose death due to malnutrition he felt to be his fault? It's based on real events.

I think that's rather unique.

This is the quote on point...

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A book or movie or play on the subject by someone with similar experience as the animator would display the same quality.

That is, the fact that it happens to be anime is utterly irrelevent to its "meaning".  A book by the same author would have as much meaning.

The story's existence is not an argument supporting anime in general as any more "special" than any other medium.

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2007, 05:36:57 AM »
Carebear, I suggest you watch "Grave of the Fireflies".

Talk about a slit your wrists film.  God that movie is depressing.  I think the last time I watched it I had to decompress with Blazing Saddles.
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2007, 07:00:14 AM »
You can't leave out Summer Glau from post Firefly/Serenity fantasies.

She is also starring in the upcoming Sara Connor Chronicles    MMmmm


Dude, the character she played was mentioned several times as being 17 years old. I don't know what her actual age is, but once I heard that, it's "kid", not "attractive".




Wrong. Summer Glau is actually older than Jewel Stait, by over a year, and Jewel Stait is well into her 20s.
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