Forced integration?

[Jocassee]

Is this going to end up like busing, but for neighborhoods?

The article is a little vague on details, like who HUD is and where this money is coming from, or what they plan on doing with the map when its done. I'm not up in arms yet but this could be interesting

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/huds-new-fair-housing-rule-establishes-diversity-data-every-neighborhood-us

[Ben]

Forced integration has never worked and will never work.

In Junior High, I was bused to a different school through forced integration. The year I was bused was the first year of the program in my town. Instead of going to the school closest to me (part of the reason my parents lived in that neighborhood), I was bused to the worst Junior High in town. I was beat up more times than I can count and my grades declined terribly. The only reason I didn't completely turn into a loser was because one of the teachers talked me into joining his staff of yearbook photographers and gave me something to focus on. Otherwise few of the other teachers seemed to care, and I remember particularly that the Chicano Studies teacher, who ran the La Raza group at school, seemed to think all us "rich kids" had it coming. Nevermind that most all of us came from a neighborhood of blue collar households.

Ironically it was the progressives that pushed forced integration then. Now (don't know if it's like this in all states) the progressives here are all about sending kids to the schools they want to go to - especially their own kids. Funny how that works.

[HankB]

I can see .gov trying to do things like build Section 8 housing in good neighborhoods, buying up vacant lots and such for the structures, or strongarming local governments into changing zoning laws to allow for housing projects (like those we had in Chicago) in nice areas of single-family homes.

Misuse of "eminent domain" against existing homes for demographic reallocation programs won't end well for those attempting it today. Any attempt at forced relocations - e.g., forcing people into "the hood" - would provoke gunfire. And lots of it.

[BlueStarLizzard]

  http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD

Housing and Urban Development, Jocasse.

I really want to summon outrage over their definition of "fair" but, to be honest, it sounds like it's going to be a flop in the pan.
The problem with forced intergration of neighborhoods is that the folks who lived their in the first place are mostly able to aquire the finachial werewithall to GTFO, even with the lose of home value. The result is just a wrong side of the tracks neighborhood that just moves around every so often.

[brimic]

This has been going on for quite some time locally. .Gov offers incentives to developers to put up ‘affordable housing’ in new developments, lies are told to community about what kind of housing is going up and the community leaders are bribed into allowing them to be put up. In a few communities, the people have been very aware of ‘affordable housing’ and have fought it tooth and nail. In one instance a mayor actually called his constituents ‘racists’ for discovering and fighting against such plans. People who have $350,000 houses don’t want a ghetto going up at the end of their street.
Much of this has to do with trying to undo the social experiments performed over the years by leftists mayors who have lured unproductive people into their ghettos to form a voting bloc, but are finding out that the crime and tax drain aren’t worth it, so they are trying to outsource their problems to the richer, better run suburbs and exurbs.

[RocketMan]

When I read the article earlier this morning, it made me think of it as a possible first step to eventual forced integration of neighborhoods.  Or possibly telling folks where they can and cannot move.  Am I a bad person because this is the first thing that came to mind?

[Ben]

This has been going on for quite some time locally. .Gov offers incentives to developers to put up ‘affordable housing’ in new developments

Yup, I see this where I live all the time. Here it's not just, "you can build nice housing if you put "affordable housing" next to it. Here they actually have to make a percentage of the nice housing available at "affordable" rates. So you may have paid $500K for your place, and your next door neighbor has the same home, but qualified for affordable housing, won their lottery, and only paid $300K.

[Scout26]

Yep, we've got those same GD "Affordable Housing" Do-Gooders here.   

There were two really nice apartment complexes at each end of town on the main drag.  The Do-Gooders went and bugged the city council to make them "Affordable Housing".  And they were.  Now they are all Section 8 housing.  Target is across the street from one; a CVS, the other.  Each week when i get the newspaper the print a map of Wheaton showing where crime takes place, and each week there is a large cluster of dots on those two complexes and the stores near them.

This area is rather affluent.   High housing prices and property taxes help keep the riff-raff out.  I you have the financial wherewithal then you are more then welcome to live here, but it you're a backwards-hat-wearing, gang-banger, dope-dealer, wannabe, keep right on moving through town.

[Waitone]

Far too many years ago I was acquaintances with someone who was a congressional staffer during the civil rights movement.  He claimed to have a pen used to sign some of the key legislation.  I did see him in a photograph of the signing.  Anyhow, we got to talking about busing to achieve integration since it was the hot topic at the time.  He commented that during the negotiations on the legislation they figured congress had two means of forcing integration:  busing of children or "forced migration" (the term he used).  In the end they went with busing because the chances of rejection, refusal, rebellion, and failure was much higher with forced migration.

I am amazed at how political gambits keep being replayed.

[tokugawa]

They will need those folks close to us. After all, someone has to be the "block captain", who will keep an eye on us and advise us on on eating habits and other activities that may reflect badly on our heath, now a national concern. Oh yes, and if you don't vote the correct way, as checked by the NSA records, you may find your wife or children are mysteriously on the "do not treat" list, or perhaps the "no food" list. The reasons for being on those lists will multiply......

 Once they go to an all digital currency they will have it sewn up tight.

 The end goal is a slave state, with an all new cast (and caste) of slaveowners.

 


 

[Hawkmoon]

Ironically it was the progressives that pushed forced integration then. Now (don't know if it's like this in all states) the progressives here are all about sending kids to the schools they want to go to - especially their own kids. Funny how that works.

Whose signature is it that says 'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"?

Same deal on schools. Around hyar the buzzword these days is "magnet school." Every school wants to be a magnet school, and people all seem to want their kids to attend a magnet school. The magnet schools aren't really perceptibly better than the other (non-magnet) schools, it's just that in a magnet school the kids can choose which subjects they want to specialize in failing. So, instead of forced busing, we now have the next generation doing the same thing as their parents, except by choice.

Slick marketing gimmick.

[BlueStarLizzard]

Whose signature is it that says 'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"?

Same deal on schools. Around hyar the buzzword these days is "magnet school." Every school wants to be a magnet school, and people all seem to want their kids to attend a magnet school. The magnet schools aren't really perceptibly better than the other (non-magnet) schools, it's just that in a magnet school the kids can choose which subjects they want to specialize in failing. So, instead of forced busing, we now have the next generation doing the same thing as their parents, except by choice.

Slick marketing gimmick.

I don't know who has it as a sig line, but that's a Who song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3Fg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[RoadKingLarry]

Sounds ike they are just going to double down on section 8 and affordable housing.
I don't think even the most commie liberal of libtards is stupid enough to attempt forced migration.
Attempted forced migration of people in rural areas would result in dead people. They know that and I don't think they are quite ready for that, yet.

[Balog]

Yup. Rural Americans aren't rural Chinese getting shipped off for the Dear Leader's five year plan.

[RocketMan]

Yup. Rural Americans aren't rural Chinese getting shipped off for the Dear Leader's five year plan.

You know that and I know that, but do the stupid politicians and .gov bureaucrats know that?

[French G.]

One way for them to find out. Of course there is precedent, we uprooted thousands of Japanese descent citizens, pretty much forced them to abandon everything they worked for and sadly the gov't got away with it.

[HankB]

One way for them to find out. Of course there is precedent, we uprooted thousands of Japanese descent citizens, pretty much forced them to abandon everything they worked for and sadly the gov't got away with it.

Wasn't that the doing of Franklin Delano Bush and the GOP?

[brimic]

They will need those folks close to us. After all, someone has to be the "block captain", who will keep an eye on us and advise us on on eating habits and other activities that may reflect badly on our heath, now a national concern. Oh yes, and if you don't vote the correct way, as checked by the NSA records, you may find your wife or children are mysteriously on the "do not treat" list, or perhaps the "no food" list. The reasons for being on those lists will multiply......

That 'list' sword cuts both ways.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Yup, I see this where I live all the time. Here it's not just, "you can build nice housing if you put "affordable housing" next to it. Here they actually have to make a percentage of the nice housing available at "affordable" rates. So you may have paid $500K for your place, and your next door neighbor has the same home, but qualified for affordable housing, won their lottery, and only paid $300K.

montgomery county md has done it for decades   i think its 3% of units that are "set aside"

[Northwoods]

This has been going on for quite some time locally. .Gov offers incentives to developers to put up ‘affordable housing’ in new developments, lies are told to community about what kind of housing is going up and the community leaders are bribed into allowing them to be put up. In a few communities, the people have been very aware of ‘affordable housing’ and have fought it tooth and nail. In one instance a mayor actually called his constituents ‘racists’ for discovering and fighting against such plans. People who have $350,000 houses don’t want a ghetto going up at the end of their street.
Much of this has to do with trying to undo the social experiments performed over the years by leftists mayors who have lured unproductive people into their ghettos to form a voting bloc, but are finding out that the crime and tax drain aren’t worth it, so they are trying to outsource their problems to the richer, better run suburbs and exurbs.

In Seattle the $350k houses are the ghetto.

[Scout26]

Illinois been done this for the last couple of years.  Exporting bangers from "the 'hood" to less urbanized parts of the state.   Kinda "Share the misery" plan.  IIRC, Lee N. Field posted some gang graffiti on here not that long ago.  Also, IIRC, the symbols were from a Latino gang the originated in the Little Village are of Chicago.

The do-gooders here in my town have welcome them with open-arms, while the bangers have picked their pockets and started to recruit kids in the local schools.

[zxcvbob]

Mrs. Z is a private tutor; math and reading, but mostly math.  She was talking about one of the local public schools -- it is in a rich section of town and used to be a good school, but then the district started bussing in troubled yoots from across town.  The teachers don't know how to handle them, the administration is weak, and the TY's have brought the whole school down to their level.  Not only has the academics gone to hell, it's not even safe; like little Detroit, or Mogadishu.  (it means lots of business for Wife though, from the upper-middle-class kids who are trapped there, and for the local private schools)

[Jocassee]

Yup. Rural Americans aren't rural Chinese getting shipped off for the Dear Leader's five year plan.

If anything is done about it, I doubt they will look at rural areas. Probably just urban vs suburban.

[Tallpine]

If anything is done about it, I doubt they will look at rural areas. Probably just urban vs suburban.

Nobody wants to live out here.  But the do-gooders would like to de-populate the rural west and turn it into a national park.   

[charby]

Nobody wants to live out here.  But the do-gooders would like to de-populate the rural west and turn it into a national park no tresspass wildlife refuge.   

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