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MMA Fighter defends family with training
« on: January 10, 2014, 03:16:42 PM »
MMA fighter Joe Torrez defends himself and his family against 4 home invaders with just his MMA skills.  He kills one low life and severely breaks the jaw of another low life, the other 2 tuck tail and run.  He is awaiting the completion of the Sheriff's office investigation to see if he is going to be charged.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma-fighter-may-face-charges-fighting-off-four-153200150--mma.html
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 03:36:49 PM »
I don't care if you're the love child of Chuck Norris and Jean-Claude Van Damme (who obviously has the hips for it) standing unarmed between your family and four attackers is self-defense.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 06:03:27 PM »
He had a knife, so I don't know how unarmed he was....
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 06:45:06 PM »
Quote from: Stetson on January 10, 2014, 06:03:27 PM
He had a knife, so I don't know how unarmed he was....

I did't see that in the article that I posted.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 06:51:27 PM »
If this is the incident I've read about a couple of days ago, the knife was one he took from one of the attackers and then returned point/edge first.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 07:03:48 PM »
The attackers weren't wearing hoodies were they?
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2014, 07:33:27 PM »
Quote from: Stetson on January 10, 2014, 06:03:27 PM
He had a knife, so I don't know how unarmed he was....

As I read it, two of the aggressors had knives.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2014, 09:54:22 PM »
Wrong house it would seem.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2014, 10:00:18 PM »
Good thing he wasn't using a gun. Someone might have been killed.

Oh, wait.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 10:10:44 PM »
Actually, right house according to the article. I'm sure a big part of the police investigation will be determining how the combatants knew each other.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 10:19:30 PM »
Sounds like it might of been some sort of gang thing. Article mentions them moving from fear of a reprisal.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 10:35:48 AM »
Quote from: Stetson on January 10, 2014, 06:03:27 PM
He had a knife, so I don't know how unarmed he was....

I suppose he had two arms like most people.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2014, 11:36:05 AM »
What is it with these MMA fighters?

I remember this story from a few years ago. We were watching the PVP of that fight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Hours-before-biggest-fight-of-his-life-Jones-an?urn=mma-wp309
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2014, 01:34:02 PM »
I thought I heard somewhere else that they knew whose home it was, but thought they were not there.  Honestly, I can't understand why they would break in with only knives if they knew. 
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2014, 02:03:05 PM »
So are there MMA forums where they discuss the best unarmed fighting techniques for home defense  ???

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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 02:21:55 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on January 11, 2014, 02:03:05 PM
So are there MMA forums where they discuss the best unarmed fighting techniques for home defense  ???

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Yes, it is called beat the living *expletive deleted* out of the home invader.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 04:32:35 PM »
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2014, 04:58:59 PM »
More fun on our side. Two stories that I can't find in the news, one was a couple of thugs attempted to stick up a Filipino gentleman. Who just happened to be an IPSC grandmaster. Oops.

The other is a crusty old retired Gunner's Mate who still shows up to shoot military matches. He was in the process of interstate travel to a match when a convenience store he was in got held up. Also a civilian LEO in a rough large city. Anyway, 3 dead robbers later he still made it to the matches.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2014, 05:08:56 PM »
Quote from: French G. on January 11, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
More fun on our side. Two stories that I can't find in the news, one was a couple of thugs attempted to stick up a Filipino gentleman. Who just happened to be an IPSC grandmaster. Oops.

The other is a crusty old retired Gunner's Mate who still shows up to shoot military matches. He was in the process of interstate travel to a match when a convenience store he was in got held up. Also a civilian LEO in a rough large city. Anyway, 3 dead robbers later he still made it to the matches.


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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2014, 10:18:43 AM »
Quote from: drewtam on January 11, 2014, 11:36:05 AM
What is it with these MMA fighters?

I remember this story from a few years ago. We were watching the PVP of that fight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Hours-before-biggest-fight-of-his-life-Jones-an?urn=mma-wp309

I'm actually surprised its not more common with the huge popularity of MMA, and the numbers of people training in this type of fighting.

In the OP article, I think there is only 1 thing the guy did wrong- he should have called the police when he got the threatening call, OTOH,when people get calls like that, its usually because they are involved in some criminal activity already.
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Re: MMA Fighter defends family with training
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2014, 03:20:56 PM »
Quote from: brimic on January 12, 2014, 10:18:43 AM
I'm actually surprised its not more common with the huge popularity of MMA, and the numbers of people training in this type of fighting.

In the OP article, I think there is only 1 thing the guy did wrong- he should have called the police when he got the threatening call, OTOH,when people get calls like that, its usually because they are involved in some criminal activity already.

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2014, 04:42:08 PM »
I don't think this guy will be charged. Unless he's one o' them white Hispanics.
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2014, 06:18:44 PM »
Quote from: adively on January 11, 2014, 02:21:55 PM
Yes, it is called beat the living *expletive deleted* out of the home invader.

Yeah, but doesn't it help if you tape a red dot sight or a flashlight to your arm?   :P
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