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The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« on: September 20, 2019, 08:52:52 AM »
Looks like that "sonic attack" that occurred in Cuba a while back and affected our diplomats might end up being over-application of mosquito pesticide.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/sonic-weapon-diplomats-cuba-pesticide-study
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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2019, 09:33:13 AM »
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There were diplomatic personnel in China and a few other shady countries who came down with similar symptoms/ brain damage.


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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2019, 10:29:13 AM »
I note that the pesticides used were organophosphates, which are a chemical cousin to many nerve agents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organophosphate#Nerve_agents) and exposure to these pesticides can produce many of the symptoms reported in Havana.
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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2019, 03:41:53 PM »
I note that the pesticides used were organophosphates, which are a chemical cousin to many nerve agents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organophosphate#Nerve_agents) and exposure to these pesticides can produce many of the symptoms reported in Havana.
And they said 5 times the normal amount was used in and around the embassy.
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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2019, 04:48:13 PM »
And they said 5 times the normal amount was used in and around the embassy.

If this was done by Cuban groundskeeping staff, it may have well been an attack, just of a different kind.
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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2019, 08:00:56 PM »
And they said 5 times the normal amount was used in and around the embassy.

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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2019, 02:30:00 AM »
I note that the pesticides used were organophosphates, which are a chemical cousin to many nerve agents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organophosphate#Nerve_agents) and exposure to these pesticides can produce many of the symptoms reported in Havana.

That would present as generalized inhibition of acetocholine sterase throughout the body's nervous system.  As I understand it these cases presented brain injury mechanism was physical insult, be it concussion, directed infrasonic, or other.

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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2019, 08:11:09 AM »
^ ???  

I think you mean:

Organophosphate poisoning would show chemically throughout the body.  But the Cuban cases looked like physical trauma to the brain, as would be the case with concussion or low-frequency acoustic energy, or other similar physical assaults.

Did I get that right?
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Re: The Cuba "Sonic Attack"
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2019, 11:34:58 PM »
^ ???  

I think you mean:

Organophosphate poisoning would show chemically throughout the body.  But the Cuban cases looked like physical trauma to the brain, as would be the case with concussion or low-frequency acoustic energy, or other similar physical assaults.

Did I get that right?


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