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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2009, 01:55:01 PM »
Hey -- no spoilers! I just got it and am only on chapter 1.  :laugh:
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2009, 02:13:30 PM »
Hey -- no spoilers! I just got it and am only on chapter 1.  :laugh:

I just finished it my second time (I was quite impressed).

I'll avoid telling you about the zombie horde that eats his brain at the end.
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2009, 02:36:41 PM »
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I'll avoid telling you about the zombie horde that eats his brain at the end.

Larry's or the lead character's? :P
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2009, 02:41:03 PM »
Larry's or the lead character's? :P

Yes.

(Of note, I wouldn't actually post a spoiler because of how much I would hate that. Rest assured there are no brain eating zombies.)
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2009, 02:56:00 PM »
WOW! I must be developing psychic powers cause it feels like this already happened, somehow...


That's what I get for not reading the thread... ;/ :police:
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2009, 04:20:08 PM »
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2009, 04:30:37 PM »
One thing I've noticed is that if someone brings up suitcase nukes, it's safe to dismiss what the person is saying.

I prefer "wheeled garment bag" nukes, for their roll-on/roll-off capability and ability to fit in the overhead bin.

Yes.

(Of note, I wouldn't actually post a spoiler because of how much I would hate that. Rest assured there are no brain eating zombies.)

To some of us, the non-existence of brain-eating zombies is a spoiler.
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2009, 04:41:10 PM »
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To some of us, the non-existence of brain-eating zombies is a spoiler.
Brain-eating zombies are probably being saved for the sequel.

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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2009, 04:42:24 PM »
I prefer "wheeled garment bag" nukes, for their roll-on/roll-off capability and ability to fit in the overhead bin.

To some of us, the non-existence of brain-eating zombies is a spoiler.


Sorry, I was unclear: The characters don't get eaten by brain-eating zombies.

I did not mean to imply the zombies did not exist (either in the novel or in the world created by the novel).
I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2009, 10:35:14 PM »
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Missing Cargo Ship Found
Literally "off the radar" for over two weeks.

Hmm.  Anchored off the Louisiana coast, nothing living aboard (but not abandoned), missing one lifeboat?
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2009, 09:13:39 AM »
Hmm.  Anchored off the Louisiana coast, nothing living aboard (but not abandoned), missing one lifeboat?

It was the Georgia-Carolina coast.

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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2009, 10:25:27 AM »
Well, they report it was all an ordinary hijacking. I'm still not convinced something fishy wasn't going on (drugs or something). The story below has some interesting quotes about it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090818/ap_on_re_eu/missing_ship_18
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2009, 01:38:34 PM »
I prefer "wheeled garment bag" nukes, for their roll-on/roll-off capability and ability to fit in the overhead bin.


So....now we have the true story of Billy Mays' death.....  :O
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2009, 04:48:33 PM »
Buying or steal bits of medical radiological stuff is a bit more deniable and significantly easier to accomplish.  Folks have already accidentally mixed in radiologicals with other recycleables.

Remember the mess from David Hahn's backyard reactor, or the aftermath of the Goiania incident?  Stuff a stick of dynamite into a few pounds of hot waste, spread it around real well,  and NEST will take care of the terrorism for you.




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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2009, 05:52:44 PM »
Well, they report it was all an ordinary hijacking. I'm still not convinced something fishy wasn't going on (drugs or something). The story below has some interesting quotes about it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090818/ap_on_re_eu/missing_ship_18
Yep, everything is explained now, they sent out atleast 8 men to hijack a ship and then they only ask for a paltry $1.5 million in ransom? 1.5 million that I guess have to cover costs for travels, equipment, perhaps some groundcrew, and also net them a profit? Yeah right. If they honestly believe that, well then I have this bridge in Brooklyn that's up for sale :rolleyes:.
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2009, 06:04:07 PM »
Remember the mess from David Hahn's backyard reactor, or the aftermath of the Goiania incident?  Stuff a stick of dynamite into a few pounds of hot waste, spread it around real well,  and NEST will take care of the terrorism for you.


Nuke boy!   Allegedly, dude is still 'hot' (in a radioactive sense, you idjits!). 

Na.  Hear about the Texas thing back in 2006?   Steel contaminated with cesium-137 was recycled...   Allegedly only 250 tons of steel were contaminated.  Heard a rumor that cesium thingies from an MRI once got directly mixed into a load of steel being recycled. 
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2009, 06:11:43 PM »
Yep, everything is explained now, they sent out atleast 8 men to hijack a ship and then they only ask for a paltry $1.5 million in ransom? 1.5 million that I guess have to cover costs for travels, equipment, perhaps some groundcrew, and also net them a profit? Yeah right. If they honestly believe that, well then I have this bridge in Brooklyn that's up for sale :rolleyes:.

I'm thinking "covert op" for some reason.....  :cool:
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2009, 06:21:59 PM »
Nuke boy!   Allegedly, dude is still 'hot' (in a radioactive sense, you idjits!). 

Na.  Hear about the Texas thing back in 2006?   Steel contaminated with cesium-137 was recycled...   Allegedly only 250 tons of steel were contaminated.  Heard a rumor that cesium thingies from an MRI once got directly mixed into a load of steel being recycled. 
Do tell about the Texas incident...
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2009, 06:27:18 PM »
I'm thinking "covert op" for some reason.....  :cool:
I say that something was put onboard the ship, probably in Kalinigrad. The 8 guys went out either from Öland or Gotland in an RIB, armed and took over the ship, pretended to look for something, but actually acted as escorts. They made sure the ship got to a specific place where another ship waited, they got out whatever they were smuggling, got it over to the other ship. Perhaps they had been promised they would be taken along, or they were simply offered enough money to take the roles as scapegoats/decoys and spend some time behind bars as a part of the deal. Whatever it was that they smuggled is now long gone and probably in the hands of someone who shouldn't be trusted to even use a squirtgun responsibly.
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2009, 07:52:35 PM »
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Do tell about the Texas incident...

There were several similar incidents.

There were at least a couple of Texas incidents from 1996 to 2006:

http://radlab.nl/radsafe/archives/9603/msg00245.html

http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/43586

The Goiana, Brazil incident irradiated many people, with at least 4 fatalities. It was caused by an abandoned Cesium-137 teletherapy source.  More here:

http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=234

Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, 1983 was another case where medical equipment was improperly surplused. The Cesium-137 pellets were freed at a scrap yard to be smelted into steel.  The radioactive construction steel found its way into the US via Texas and other bordering states, and triggered a radiation detector at Los Alamos, prompting the investigation. Since then, the U.S. has installed radiation detection equipment at all major border crossings.

The David Hahn backyard breeder reactor incident was a real eye-opener, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

There's a whole list of documented civilian radiological incidents, with a wide range of severity.  I've flown against a couple foreign ones when Uncle Sam was concerned enough to take a closer look.

http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=234


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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2009, 08:14:50 PM »

Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, 1983 was another case where medical equipment was improperly surplused. The Cesium-137 pellets were freed at a scrap yard to be smelted into steel.  The radioactive construction steel found its way into the US via Texas and other bordering states, and triggered a radiation detector at Los Alamos, prompting the investigation. Since then, the U.S. has installed radiation detection equipment at all major border crossings.


Ah, that was it!   Heard it really freaked out a lot of folks.  :)



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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2009, 02:12:13 PM »
Looks like you guys aren't the only ones speculating about what the ship was carrying:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/08/19/world/international-us-ship-russia.html
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The official version of events was questioned by Yulia Latynina, a leading Russian opposition journalist and commentator.

"The Arctic Sea was carrying something, not timber and not from Finland, that necessitated some major work on the ship," she wrote in the Moscow Times newspaper on Wednesday.

During two weeks of repair works in the Russian port of Kaliningrad just before the voyage, the ship's bulkhead was dismantled so something very large could be loaded, she wrote.

"To put it plainly: The Arctic Sea was carrying some sort of anti-aircraft or nuclear contraption intended for a nice, peaceful country like Syria, and they were caught with it," she said.
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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2009, 03:10:51 PM »
Nuke boy!   Allegedly, dude is still 'hot' (in a radioactive sense, you idjits!). 

Na.  Hear about the Texas thing back in 2006?   Steel contaminated with cesium-137 was recycled...   Allegedly only 250 tons of steel were contaminated.  Heard a rumor that cesium thingies from an MRI once got directly mixed into a load of steel being recycled. 

Hahn is still in the news:
'Radioactive Boy Scout' Charged in Smoke Detector Theft


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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2009, 07:02:40 PM »
That's one of the scariest looking dudes I've seen in a while.

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Re: Missing Cargo Ship Found
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2009, 07:23:34 PM »
Something tells me he doesn't need a flashlight at night...  =D
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