On another forum an interesting topic came up.
We were discussing the album The Fame, and a member commented that it was supposed to be a satire. I had always taken it at face value, but now I'm perplexed.
There is a lot of sillyness in The Fame, (killer whale, anyone?), and it could be interpreted as a satire.
However, I don't believe it was meant to be one. I truly believe it was a display of what fame meant to Gaga.
On the other hand, it's difficult to take it all seriously.
The killer-whale scene in the kiddie pool.
Rolling around in a pile of money and playing what looks like hide-and-seek.
I had always veiwed it as a deeply moving portrayal of a young girl's intoduction to, and corruption by, her newfound fame and fortune.
I thought it was sending a warning that fame is self-destroying, and ultimately fatal, as we saw in the next album, the Fame Monster.
And I believed Born this Way was a form of ressurection, purification, and afterlife.
But if The Fame was meant as a satire, where does that leave us?
You want to have a philosophical discussion about a Lady Gaga album? I had to look it up.. street cred intact.
And right after, I turned on the TV and saw Flo Rida singing in a video by this little Australian kid (a copy of Justin Bieber).
Now I believe that this Flo Rida must have no street cred among other rappers.
So, what are your thoughts on the deeper meaning of these albums?
So, what are your thoughts on the deeper meaning of these albums?
That would require actually listening to Lady Gaga, which from the snippets I've heard so far, ain't gonna happen.
Type in You and I. That's her new country song.
Also check out Bloody Mary.
All her songs are on Youtube.
You want to have a philosophical discussion about a Lady Gaga album? I had to look it up.. street cred intact.
Type in You and I. That's her new country song.
You mean little Miss Center of Attention has all of her stuff on YouTube? I'm shocked. Just shocked. :P
THere's a reason she's the center of attention. It's called talent.
She was accepted to Julliard at 17, but turned it down to go to some other fancy school and be one of only 20 people in history to be accepted before they were 18.
Type in You and I. That's her new country song.
Also check out Bloody Mary.
All her songs are on Youtube.
Type in "And You and I" and listen to something else.
jim
Type in You and I. That's her new country song.Is that an Anglicized version of Toi et Moi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz4AexuyhHI)?
THere's a reason she's the center of attention. It's called talent.
and you and I is a great song by a band called yes,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fi-sUOM8io
I remember smoking pot in the seventies & thinking how deep this song was, as well as the entire Fragile album.
The big problem is I've forgotten why I thought it was really deep but the song remains the same.
As far as Lady Gaga? is she related to Lord Gaga? I hardly like any body with "Lady" in front of their name-not even "Lady Antebellum"
Maybe we can get both ladies to have a shooting competition, the winner gets a S&W Ladysmith
and you and I is a great song by a band called yes,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fi-sUOM8io
I remember smoking pot in the seventies & thinking how deep this song was, as well as the entire Fragile album.
The big problem is I've forgotten why I thought it was really deep but the song remains the same.
As far as Lady Gaga? is she related to Lord Gaga? I hardly like any body with "Lady" in front of their name-not even "Lady Antebellum"
Maybe we can get both ladies to have a shooting competition, the winner gets a S&W Ladysmith
Were they better in the 70's? Because seriously... that was awful. Maybe you have to have been a fan from the start or something?
I used to say "if you remember the 60's and the 70's then you weren't there....man"
Get a haircut.
Lets drift this thread into something winning- lets discuss Lemmy.
Were they better in the 70's? Because seriously... that was awful. Maybe you have to have been a fan from the start or something?
Type in "And You and I" and listen to something else.Wow, a Gaga thread saved by a Yes reference. Thanks for that. Pepped up my morning a lot. I haven't put that CD in the truck in a while.
jim
Were they better in the 70's? Because seriously... that was awful. Maybe you have to have been a fan from the start or something?IMO, Yes has a unique style that takes some getting used to if you never heard it before. It is certainly not for everyone.
So, guys, the Edge of Glory video came out yesterday.
Critics are mixed. Some say it's boring, some say it's refreshingly simple.
I'm also mixed up. It's not as "involved" as many of her other videos, but it is clean-cut and the song is fantastic.
I requested it twice on the radio yesterday.
It sort of complicates matters, though.
Perhaps it symbolizes her homecoming?
Maybe the progression is:
The Fame: corrupted by fame and wealth, leaves home
The Fame Monster: Search for true self and inner beauty
Born This Way: realization of self, return to home and cultural roots
What do you guys think? Have you seen the Edge of Glory video?
What do you guys think? Have you seen the Edge of Glory video?
Perhaps it symbolizes her homecoming?
Hey guys, I'm trying to have a serious examination here.
I find on many forums people turn these types of threads into a big joke.
Not to be a prick, but perhaps its because this type of audience probably doesn't find much interest in lady gaga. Use the search engine and you'll find a number of music threads around. Very few of them are anything remotely close.
I had this discussion on the Gaga YArd forums and people took it seriously.
Perhaps you took a left instead of a right at Alberqurque. This isn't the Gaga Yard. It's APS.
So if you have nothing meaningful to contribute, please don't disturb the thread.
That wouldn't be our style around here.
...I'll bet many of you haven't seen even one of her videos. Possibly not even heard her songs.Type in Black Jesus †Amen Fashion on YouTube.
Thanks, but I'll pass. I'd rather type in "double rainbow" and have a midget whip me with a chunk of rubber hose.
Not to be a prick, but perhaps its because this type of audience probably doesn't find much interest in lady gaga. Use the search engine and you'll find a number of music threads around. Very few of them are anything remotely close.
Well, that's changed now. I have different tastes.
Perhaps you took a left instead of a right at Alberqurque. This isn't the Gaga Yard. It's APS.
Yes, and APS is primarily a site for discussing non-firearms topics with the gun crowd. Hence this thread.
That wouldn't be our style around here.
Mine neither...
Thanks, but I'll pass. I'd rather type in "double rainbow" and have a midget whip me with a chunk of rubber hose.
Your policy of mental seclusion seems to have been taken directly from Tokugawa-era Japan.
Enlighten yourself!
Type in Black Jesus on YouTube.
;/
Gaga is a moderately talented singer who is out to out madonna madonna.
You started the thread, if you can't deal with the critisim, I'm sure we can find a door somewhere.
so groupies are still around?
You want good shock value with music? Alice Cooper.Seriously? I respect Cooper, but I don't think anyone has been shocked by him in at least 20 years. The world has moved on.
She's no Madonna, that's for sure.Well, these days Madonna is no Madonna... :P
She has been constantly mentioned in the media.That really is not proof of anything. Weiner's wiener has been all over the media for several week now, but it does not make it entertaining.
But most of all, her fans are truly fanatics.That is not really any reflection on her music, either. All sorts of non-musical personalities have had huge and very dedicated followings. Heck, look at the Grateful Dead.
She has been constantly mentioned in the media.
So has Anthony Weiner..
She has many number one hits (Bad Romance, Poker Face, anyone?)
So has Weird Al Yankovic.
Her music is for the most part, very, very good ( if you are into this genre).
What if I'm not into the genre?
But most of all, her fans are truly fanatics.
So were the fans of David Koresh.
I should know. :) There's a personal connection between the artist and the fan.
In the old days, we called those "groupies".
There's even a university course on the subject.
Why am I not surprised? With university courses on anal sex, crop circles and Tom Cruise, why not Lady Gaga?
She also sings live at all her events, unlike many artists nowadays. She is an extremely talented vocalist, no matter what you may say about her composing (which she does by herself).
Back in the olden times, when I was a young-un, singers sang at their concerts. Call me crazy, but I thought it's what they're supposed to do.
I can't deal with thread hi-jacking and not taking me seriously.
Back in the olden times, when I was a young-un, singers sang at their concerts. Call me crazy, but I thought it's what they're supposed to do.
Shirley you knew that.
Gaga is an extremely talented singer who has out-Gaga'd just about everyone.
I can deal with criticism. I can't deal with thread hi-jacking and not taking me seriously. :D
Stop calling him Shirley.
In the old days, we called those "groupies".
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Get with it old-timer! Now we call them "fanbois." =D
DD
I should get me an outfit like that. Of course, I should probably lose about 80 pounds before I go out in public in it. ;/Nah. Get it now and grow into it.
I should get me an outfit like that. Of course, I should probably lose about 80 pounds before I go out in public in it. ;/
I can deal with criticism. I can't deal with thread hi-jacking and not taking me seriously. :D
So has Weird Al Yankovic.
This thread is in serious need of some testosterone. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3WJX1cIuY4&feature=relmfu) should make your beards grow a bit. ;)
I can deal with criticism. I can't deal with thread hi-jacking and not taking me seriously. :D
What I have found is that many guys actually like her music but refuse to admit it.
APS is university-approved curriculum for a Masters Degree in Threadjacking and Silliness.
Our criticism department is limited and only merits an Associates Degree.
Nope. Don't like her music, don't care too much for her persona, either.
Heard she was once a right nice looking young lady.
Well, just to let you guys know, you can expect more Gaga threads from me.
She has a lot going on right now with the release of new videos and singles.
One said she was awesome, "the new Elton John."
2/3 to 3/4 are LGB.
I thought LGB was a sandwich. ???
Well, just to let you guys know, you can expect more Gaga threads from me.
She has a lot going on right now with the release of new videos and singles.
The rest arestraight guysuncommited LBG.
The rest arestraight guyslying.
Fixed it for you.
You said you didn't like how this thread is going. What is your motivation for starting similar threads?
^Hey,the two posters above me, 'tis not funny.
I guess we can go home now. :'(
DD
You're doing this at work?
Naughty, naughty.
Nah, just efficient. But, I'm going home now. Booting down in 3, 2, 1...
Leaving us to resume our philiophical examination of these fine songs.
Yes, we shall indeed...
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No way!
Heavy metal sucks, unless it's Master of Puppets. And that's just plain OK.
Type in this on YouTube: Electric Chapel. Now THAT isrockpop!
Heavy metal sucks, unless it's Master of Puppets. And that's just plain OK
Gaga doesn't have anything on The Hoff.
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Or Gary Busey.
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Or Jeff Cohen.
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What I have found is that many guys actually like her music but refuse to admit it.I'm a fan of "Another one rides the bus", speaking of Queen...
On another hunting forum some guys admitted that they listened to her stuff.I've listened to some seriously awful stuff, too.
One said she was awesome, "the new Elton John."Ever since I realized "Your Song" was written about man-man love I can't take Elton seriously, either.
I'm too young to have heard anything Elton did (apart from the Lion King) but I assume that he is quite good.Was quite good.
uncommited LBG.Locust Bean Gum can form commitments?
Your Song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xubavlo3CFkHoo boy. The 70's sure had some god-awful fashions and haircuts...
Well, just to let you guys know, you can expect more Gaga threads from me.
She has a lot going on right now with the release of new videos and singles.
Lettuce, bacon, and guacamole.
Quote from: Jim147 on Today at 04:13:36 PM
uncommited LBG.
Locust Bean Gum can form commitments?
No way!
Heavy metal sucks, unless it's Master of Puppets. And that's just plain OK.
Type in this on YouTube: Electric Chapel. Now THAT is rock!
And anyways, I don't like how this thread is going,
I use to listen to Pop music, but the wife has gotten me converted to Country and I haven't looked back. Thank God. If I listen to the crap that is now considered Pop music, I would [barf]Thank God, indeed! (I thought nobody else listened to E.T. anymore) http://youtu.be/2Kh_FSYK7b8
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And just so you know, if you're nothing but some kind of shill for lady gaga, with nothing much else to say, you might get shown the door. Just sayin.
Well, ain't that too bad. You don't like my musical taste so you say that I am on Interscope Records' paylist. Ridiculous.
You've got dozens of posts telling you most here aren't interested in lady gaga. The thread veer is another sign of that. Yet you persist. Just sayin.
As long as I don't break forum rules, I will be staying here, thank you very much. Yes, I see your status.
Frankly, I don't care what other people are interested in.
I'm not some sheep that conforms to the demands of others. Just sayin'. I haven't been rude or broken rules.
So there.[/quote]
Elton Johns not my cup of tea, either.
But Bowie, on the other hand, LG can try and try, but she will never be as great as the early glitter boys.
And my comment about Alice Cooper is this. He did shock value right. Since his time almost NO ONE has managed to be more then a weak parady.
Rob Zombie is good and his brother, too. But Manson was just an idiot.
And bober-whatever your name is. I'm the closest thing around here too the acceptable age and sex to be a fan of lady gaga. Obviously I am not a fan. Maybe its because I disdain pop music, or maybe its 'cause i'm odd, but to be honest, I find "poker face" to be annoying as hell and after suffering through the Gaga Glee episode, this accomplished Brittney Spears hater was begging for another spears episode rather then suffer anymore nonsense about little monsters in silver lamee without ONE (not ONE!!!) homage to great glitter gods who first brought glam to rock and roll.
Glee is SO gay.
tuco beat me too it.
And, as is blatently obvious, I am female. Whats your excuse?
What do you mean, "What's your excuse?"
http://www.gagayard.com/showthread.php?tid=24&page=17
Post #166 on that page.
Ooooooooo
I can't stand not knowing what it says. ;/
Me and my mate were back at the shack we had spike jones on the box
She said I can't take the way he sings but I love to hear him talk.
Busy trying to surf Dirigible jokes..
You aren't funny.
I know that you are trying to get my goat, you've seen that I have a connection and you are prodding my sensitive spot.
So you are going on my Ignore list.
Busy trying to surf Dirigible jokes..
Early shock musician of sorts. Possibly the original?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrv-kBUh3Y&feature=fvst
I'm on it's ignore list. :lol:
you've seen that I have a connection and you are prodding my sensitive spot.
Apparently they don't have Ignore lists here, so I'm stuck with you. :(
Anyways, I'd like to let you know that I never smile unless I find something very amusing.
If I meet someone and they smile at me, I won't smile back unless I find something to laugh at.
So many people think I'm cold and unfriendly.
Which may be the case, but I don't wear hoodies either (including rainjackets.)
Or umbrellas, they are effeminate.
I don't think anyone here would prod your sensitive spot.
[popcorn]
jim
umbrellas, they are effeminate.
This is me, by the way:
Wrong again with a capital r
http://www.pimall.com/nais/umbrelllasword.html
Whoooo hooo!
Umbrellas are effeminate?!?!?!
Again,
Pot, meet kettle.
Wrong again with a capital r
http://www.pimall.com/nais/umbrelllasword.html
Pshaw. John Steed had no need for such gimmicks.
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Don't edit my sig again, mods.
The moderators had changed my signature so that:WTF are you talking about?
The word Bloody Mary read as Bloody Tampon.
And so the words Highway Unicorn read as Magic Obama Unicorn.
WTF are you talking about?
Lady Gaga, Born This WayI still see Bloody Tampon and Magic Obama Unicorn for your sig. Weird.
Check out these tracks:
Bloody Mary
Highway Unicorn
^That is what I typed in for my signature.
I logged back in after a couple hours away and noticed it had been modified to read:
Lady Gaga, Born This Way
Check out these tracks:
Bloody Tampon
Magic Obama Unicorn
I still can't read you sig line. To much rainbow.
jim
This is me, by the way:
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In another thread you mentioned owing multiple Colt 1911s
Interesting.
No reply in almost an hour. His parents must enforce a strict bed time. With decent parents at least there's hope for him. It's so discouraging to see a kid with some promise get sidetracked by a carney like GAGA. I think that's what really irritates me. It's like seeing an otherwise intelligent kid who believes pro wrestling is real.
What a pity.
DD
What exactly is that suppposed to mean? ;)
This is me, by the way:
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Seems that one of the other mods smelled the writing on the wall. Boberama has been banned.
G'night all.
Paid Gaga shill, most likely. Way too single-minded.
I for one approve these photographs. Assuming this individual is of legal age.
Paid Gaga shill, most likely.
Do you mean to say that Lady Gaga's PR team would pay to have someone troll this tiny forum?
Seems that one of the other mods smelled the writing on the wall. Boberama has been banned.
G'night all.
Hey, if a couple of us go to the YouTube pages and rack up ad hits for them, and he does it on 100 tiny forums....... More likely just a bored teenager out of school for the summer though. What's with the KKK mask and knives though?
Aren't you worried he's going to call up Oleg and get you in trouble? =D
While a nice thought....aren't some of his models like kick-boxing champions? That could end up hurting.
I'm hoping Oleg will send one of his models to spank me.
Do you mean to say that Lady Gaga's PR team would pay to have someone troll this tiny forum?Could be. I figure that some of the "work from home for good money!" ads are legitimate, and they involve spamming. I don't see why Gaga's people wouldn't be in on very low-cost publicity.
my dad dropped me off at alexandria roller rink to see david bowie and lou reed. i don't think he's ever seen a man with a beard in a halter top before.... or since. great concert though.
my dad dropped me off at alexandria roller rink to see david bowie and lou reed. i don't think he's ever seen a man with a beard in a halter top before.... or since. great concert though.
how old? and i didn't draw a sober breath for more than a decade would be 2 decades but the state of va enforced sobriety on me twice
i was 10 or 11 then and still a nice catholic boy from new york. if he ran around in woodbridge springfield or alexandria we mighta bumped into each other during mid late 70's
The kids is gone and I never got the chance to post this video. IMO, this sort of humor and satire is much better including better music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUP5rwVNJko
I was thinking that when I was in college, I saw it as sort of a badge of honor that I liked bands that were not mainstream and saw a few in concert before they became big hits. I guess I had given up on trying to convert anyone to my tastes in music.