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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: AmbulanceDriver on April 15, 2020, 03:16:58 PM
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Will a Trump win in 2020 generate?
In line with my other prediction topic (Dem's october surpise) what prediction will you make regarding the level of bats*** craziness to be expected from a Trump win in 2020?
Aside from the accusations of racism, voter suppression, cheating, collusion with $COUNTRY.... I think that there will be a major freakout by the far left. Like suicidal level of freaking out from some. Especially from the types that donated their entire student loan payment to Bernie's campaign.
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I guess a question would be, how much crazier can they get? They're already approaching the kind of line that they maybe don't want to cross. I might expect an antifa resurgence, along with somebody on our side deciding enough is enough.
The MSM will just continue on. The dems will continue on "impeachment". Hopefully 50% of celebrities will actually keep their words move to Canada.
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One of the Bernie Sisters I'm friends with was fuming about Biden being the candidate. She said if Trump is re-elected, we only have him for 4 more years and he's now predictable. She said if Biden gets elected, it could be 8 years of ingrained establishment and who knows where that will take us. I do think a lot of progressives are going to sit this one out.
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So far, the Resistance/Antifa rallies have had little to no actual body count, so there are certainly levels of apoplexy the Left has yet to access. Instead of torching a limo, a la Disrupt J20, they could try burning down Republican politicians' houses. We could see several more ballpark shooters, or worse.
What I think is more likely is that the Left will turn all their fury on anyone they can identify as a Trump voter. They may try to "cancel" anyone and everyone who disagrees with them. Same tactics, just on a different scale.
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I was typing this out and posted it before I read fistful's post. I guess we agree.
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I expect a lot of individual and personal and surreptitious vengeful attacks on anyone who touted President Trump. Not on me, of course, because I'm a sweetheart. (And I tend to keep my mouth shut.)
But I know how passionate, self-righteous humans react when things don't go their way and they're frustrated. They'll take any opportuity to lash out and their tantrums block out their sense of fair play and even... dare I say it? ...legality.
WRT the country as a whole, I'm not making or taking any bets, and I haven't fired a shot in more than a year, but I might just go down to the range for a little practice a month or so before the election just to make sure I'm well-regulated.
"Regulated," as in, you know, "regular army," regular guy," "a regulated watch," "well-trained," and "well-equipped."
Not in the sense of "trammeled," or "restricted," or "subject to all kinds of rules and regulations."
Terry
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"Regulated," as in, you know, "regular army," regular guy," "a regulated watch," "well-trained," and "well-equipped."
Not in the sense of "trammeled," or "restricted," or "subject to all kinds of rules and regulations."
Terry
Wish I still had the link, but somewhere out there is a scanned copy of a dictionary from about 1760 that only had your first definition, the second wasn't in it.
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Any even somewhat lefty state will probably try to keep shooting ranges closed through the election. For our safety during the pandemic.
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Wish I still had the link, but somewhere out there is a scanned copy of a dictionary from about 1760 that only had your first definition, the second wasn't in it.
The link is somewhere on the site here. I just can't remember the name of the dictionary, or I would have done a search and posted the link.
Edit: The morning coffee kicked in and I remembered. Here are some links:
https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/samuel-johnson-s-dictionary-of-the-english-language-1785#0-0
https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/
Or maybe even better - pick your edition and ebook form:
https://openlibrary.org/works/OL14862662W/A_dictionary_of_the_English_language
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Will a Trump win in 2020 generate?
In line with my other prediction topic (Dem's october surpise) what prediction will you make regarding the level of bats*** craziness to be expected from a Trump win in 2020?
Aside from the accusations of racism, voter suppression, cheating, collusion with $COUNTRY.... I think that there will be a major freakout by the far left. Like suicidal level of freaking out from some. Especially from the types that donated their entire student loan payment to Bernie's campaign.
The economy and COVID deaths. Trump was very slow to respond to the China Flu. So they'll blame him for dragging it out, the deaths of however many people (Biden will get the number wrong, probably say some *expletive deleted*it like "30 million" but he'll get a media pass), and tie in the long lasting sty at home orders because it took so long to peak, and the economy cratering because of it. That's my prediction.
The death toll will be the screeching noise.
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The economy and COVID deaths. Trump was very slow to respond to the China Flu. So they'll blame him for dragging it out, the deaths of however many people (Biden will get the number wrong, probably say some *expletive deleted*it like "30 million" but he'll get a media pass), and tie in the long lasting sty at home orders because it took so long to peak, and the economy cratering because of it. That's my prediction.
The death toll will be the screeching noise.
I'm not saying Trump did a great job super quickly on the COVID response, but as it shapes up he acted faster, then many world leaders, the US death rate is better then much of Europe, and as he pointed out with his youtube video dis track if the media/dems want to attack him for being too slow there are hours of role where those same people said he was over reacting and acting too quickly.
I don't think that's a big win for them.
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I'm not saying Trump did a great job super quickly on the COVID response, but as it shapes up he acted faster, then many world leaders, the US death rate is better then much of Europe, and as he pointed out with his youtube video dis track if the media/dems want to attack him for being too slow there are hours of role where those same people said he was over reacting and acting too quickly.
I don't think that's a big win for them.
100% agree. He was attacked for even minimal response back in FEB, because "the flu is worse" (which, hey, it might still be). Now the same media is screaming that he didn't, and still isn't, doing enough. Whether people, even members here, think he's doing a good job or not, I think there's a big balancing act that has to be done on the fronts of freedom, economy, and safety (and I put safety last because in a free society, that's where it should be - freedom can be dangerous).
Also, I think we're one of the more open first world countries responding to this, so our mistakes are just as visible as our successes.
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It won't surprise me if the left decides to impeach Trump again for, well . . . just because.
That's assuming they keep the House. Hopefully, Pelosi will be at best (or is it at worst?) minority leader.
I also will expect some lefty talking head on TV - most likely on CNN or MSDNC - to slip up and actually advocate some blatantly illegal, violent, and felonious action in response.
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Mostly some more tears (How could it happen again?!?) some more threats to move to some heaven on earth (but nobody will leave) some more cries about the end of democracy (he stole the online vote) and another impeachment because he, and other Neanderthals, spent money to TRY and win the election (how dare they!?!)
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I'm not saying Trump did a great job super quickly on the COVID response, but as it shapes up he acted faster, then many world leaders, the US death rate is better then much of Europe, and as he pointed out with his youtube video dis track if the media/dems want to attack him for being too slow there are hours of role where those same people said he was over reacting and acting too quickly.
I don't think that's a big win for them.
Much of Europe dicked around, too. We're not alone. And it's probable at this point that China lied about the origin and the severity of their outbreak, leading to a slower response by much of the world.
Trumps early statements will be the rally cry, followed by breathless reporting of death tolls. Right or wrong, and no matter the number.
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I don't think that's a big win for them.
What do they have that's better?
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What do they have that's better?
The usual:
Racisim, Hates women, doesn't care about poor people, damages our credibility in the world, feckless and schizo foreign policy, cozies up to dictators. Kinda the standard.
Healthcare isn't really much better off then in 2016, and he didn't accomplish repeal and replace.
Iraq and Syria are still a shitshow, even if he get's the troops out.
Economy could go either way...Yeah it's COVIDfucked right now, but if the recovery can be spun as soft compared to the EU, then there's a "Trump's economy was an unsustainable bubble" narrative to be pushed.
Immigration for the party faithful. He's still all racisim-hatey, although that might be a landmine based on recent events showing that control over the borders could be useful even if you leave them open. Hard to predict.
That's kinda what I'd expect the Dem's to push. Reasonably safe easy hits on Trump.
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The usual:
Racisim, Hates women, doesn't care about poor people, damages our credibility in the world, feckless and schizo foreign policy, cozies up to dictators. Kinda the standard.
Healthcare isn't really much better off then in 2016, and he didn't accomplish repeal and replace.
Iraq and Syria are still a shitshow, even if he get's the troops out.
Economy could go either way...Yeah it's COVIDfucked right now, but if the recovery can be spun as soft compared to the EU, then there's a "Trump's economy was an unsustainable bubble" narrative to be pushed.
Immigration for the party faithful. He's still all racisim-hatey, although that might be a landmine based on recent events showing that control over the borders could be useful even if you leave them open. Hard to predict.
That's kinda what I'd expect the Dem's to push. Reasonably safe easy hits on Trump.
Most of that is their usual trope. The only new thing is Covid/economy. Trump can shift blame to China for lying and covering it up. They can still try and blame him for the deaths. And even though lockdowns/limited lockdowns are scientifically the right answer, the longer this goes on, the worse the economy gets, the more they blame Trump for the economy. Up until Dec, it was easily the administrations shining accomplishment.
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Wish I still had the link, but somewhere out there is a scanned copy of a dictionary from about 1760 that only had your first definition, the second wasn't in it.
Regulated
REG'ULATED, participle passive Adjusted by rule, method or forms; put in good order; subjected to rules or restrictions.
Websters 1828 definition
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/
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Another thought is whatever their messaging, they're going to struggle to get Biden to deliver it if it's complex. We all know he's slipping cognitively.
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I think the DNC establishment wants Trump to win, easier to fundraise that way.
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Most of that is their usual trope. The only new thing is Covid/economy. Trump can shift blame to China for lying and covering it up. They can still try and blame him for the deaths. And even though lockdowns/limited lockdowns are scientifically the right answer, the longer this goes on, the worse the economy gets, the more they blame Trump for the economy. Up until Dec, it was easily the administrations shining accomplishment.
Yeah, Pretty much. That's my prediction that they will go with their usual bag, with maybe some COVID economy stuff thrown in. They think everyone hates Trump and I doubt the Dem establishment feels they need to risk a new attack angle that risks a backfire on Joe.
Honestly I expect them to back off Russia, because no one wants to mention The Ukraine on a debate stage.
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Wish I still had the link, but somewhere out there is a scanned copy of a dictionary from about 1760 that only had your first definition, the second wasn't in it.
Regulated
REG'ULATED, participle passive Adjusted by rule, method or forms; put in good order; subjected to rules or restrictions.
Websters 1828 definition
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/
Samuel Johnson, 1775:
https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/regulate/
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Thanks for another great dictionary link!
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Yeah, Pretty much. That's my prediction that they will go with their usual bag, with maybe some COVID economy stuff thrown in. They think everyone hates Trump and I doubt the Dem establishment feels they need to risk a new attack angle that risks a backfire on Joe.
Honestly I expect them to back off Russia, because no one wants to mention The Ukraine on a debate stage.
Do you think they will find something new about the virus to blame Trump about or will they just continue what they are saying now? I realize there is lots of time for new stuff to happen, but continuing the current anti-Trump screeching for 6 more months might get a bit old. I am sure the usual leftists will eat it up, but that doesn't mean it will turn enough voters away from Trump. Lots of time for new details to nitpick I guess.
And there is always room for completely made up accusations.
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...continuing the current anti-Trump screeching for 6 more months might get a bit old...
There seem to be a lot of people that never tire of it.
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I think that they think the screeching is working, and they don't need to do anything else. Just keep it up, and hammer home how bad he is like they have for the last 4 years.
I don't know if they are correct, but I think that THEY think they are.
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I think this question is premature. Trump's chance of being reelected is hovering around 50-50 in my opinion. Right now they are banging the "Trump's delayed response to the corona virus killed people" theme. Given that the majority of folks still get their news from the MSM (which implies some level of trust and belief), I suspect that will ultimately prove difficult for his campaign to overcome.
If the Dems pivot to "Trump over-reacted/acted on bad advice/didn't make the right decisions/etc. to the corona virus crisis and killed the economy", then he is toast.
Handled properly, the outcome of the beer virus crisis will be red meat for the Democrats. They can effectively swing either way on it depending on how the numbers finally pan out.
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I think this question is premature. Trump's chance of being reelected is hovering around 50-50 in my opinion. Right now they are banging the "Trump's delayed response to the corona virus killed people" theme. Given that the majority of folks still get their news from the MSM (which implies some level of trust and belief), I suspect that will ultimately prove difficult for his campaign to overcome.
If the Dems pivot to "Trump over-reacted/acted on bad advice/didn't make the right decisions/etc. to the corona virus crisis and killed the economy", then he is toast.
Handled properly, the outcome of the beer virus crisis will be red meat for the Democrats. They can effectively swing either way on it depending on how the numbers finally pan out.
I would change MSN to "some mouth breathing pundit and idiots posting memes on Facebook".
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I think this question is premature. Trump's chance of being reelected is hovering around 50-50 in my opinion. Right now they are banging the "Trump's delayed response to the corona virus killed people" theme. Given that the majority of folks still get their news from the MSM (which implies some level of trust and belief), I suspect that will ultimately prove difficult for his campaign to overcome.
If the Dems pivot to "Trump over-reacted/acted on bad advice/didn't make the right decisions/etc. to the corona virus crisis and killed the economy", then he is toast.
Handled properly, the outcome of the beer virus crisis will be red meat for the Democrats. They can effectively swing either way on it depending on how the numbers finally pan out.
Do you really think it is still a majority? I thought the rating don't really show that. Maybe if you include people who don't watch the news, but see headlines and sound bytes.
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Do you really think it is still a majority? I thought the rating don't really show that. Maybe if you include people who don't watch the news, but see headlines and sound bytes.
Ran across an article a week or two back from an authoritative source that stated 63% still get their news from the MSM. While the number stuck with me, I'll be dag nabbed if I can remember where I saw the article. I'd post a link if my biological memory backup battery hadn't died.
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"Regulated," as in, you know, "regular army," regular guy," "a regulated watch," "well-trained," and "well-equipped."
Not in the sense of "trammeled," or "restricted," or "subject to all kinds of rules and regulations."
Terry
Yes... the militia is to be regulated. Gun ownership is not to be regulated.
Judge Thomas M. Cooley (the foremost constitutional scholar of the 1800s), explained this very clearly in 1880.
"It might be supposed from the phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by the intent. The militia, as has been elsewhere explained, consists of those persons who, under the law, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon. But the law may make provision for the enrolment of all who are fit to perform military duty, or of a small number only, or it may wholly omit to make any provision at all; and if the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of this guaranty might be defeated altogether by the action or neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms; and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose. But this enables the government to have a well-regulated militia; for to bear arms implies something more than the mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use; in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms, observing in doing so the laws of public order.[156]
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I think this question is premature. Trump's chance of being reelected is hovering around 50-50 in my opinion. Right now they are banging the "Trump's delayed response to the corona virus killed people" theme. Given that the majority of folks still get their news from the MSM (which implies some level of trust and belief), I suspect that will ultimately prove difficult for his campaign to overcome.
If the Dems pivot to "Trump over-reacted/acted on bad advice/didn't make the right decisions/etc. to the corona virus crisis and killed the economy", then he is toast.
Handled properly, the outcome of the beer virus crisis will be red meat for the Democrats. They can effectively swing either way on it depending on how the numbers finally pan out.
I think the rally cry will have a lot to do with death tolls. This is what makes the China information so important. We weren't the only country slow to react, thanks to the lies of China, and the coverup by the WHO.
https://world.wng.org/2020/04/china_s_real_death_toll
Newsweek reported on this back on 3/29
https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914
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Speaking of apoplexy ... Trump tweeted he is shutting down all immigration into the USA.
3 2 1 exploding heads on the left commence!
I'd have started a new thread but didn't see any news articles yet.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!
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Speaking of apoplexy ... Trump tweeted he is shutting down all immigration into the USA.
3 2 1 exploding heads on the left commence!
I'd have started a new thread but didn't see any news articles yet.
The typical "blue check" comments are pretty comical. They think they're being witty by saying we should cut off "immigration" from Florida and Georgia instead, while typing those statements from NYC.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/20/media-is-gonna-flip-trump-tweets-that-hell-sign-an-executive-order-to-temporarily-suspend-immigration-into-the-us-and-whoa-nelly/
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The typical "blue check" comments are pretty comical. They think they're being witty by saying we should cut off "immigration" from Florida and Georgia instead, while typing those statements from NYC.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/20/media-is-gonna-flip-trump-tweets-that-hell-sign-an-executive-order-to-temporarily-suspend-immigration-into-the-us-and-whoa-nelly/
The argument seems to be that America is the world hotspot for a deadly disease, and how dare Orange Man stop people from visiting the world hotspot for a deadly disease. :lol:
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With unemployment what it is now, the last thing we need right now is more immigrants (including those with H1B visas) looking for work.
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The argument seems to be that America is the world hotspot for a deadly disease, and how dare Orange Man stop people from visiting the world hotspot for a deadly disease. :lol:
Party of science and its math skills.