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Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« on: February 12, 2010, 11:16:42 AM »
I recall the Bush Administration took a lot of heat re: monitoring phone calls from certain foreign nations to the US. I wonder if the MSM will apply the same heat to the Obama Administration for domestic warrantless tracking? Or if there will be any outrage over the "no reasonable expectation of privacy" statement?

On a tangent, I had no idea how available my cell phone data were until very recently. I got a new phone a couple of months ago (upgrade, same carrier, Verizon). Shortly after getting and activating it, there was some kind of glitch in my voicemail that gave me a "feature not accessible" (or something like that) error. About an hour later, my VM beep goes off, and I have like 15 messages waiting. When I listened to them, I was getting messages I had deleted from random times from a couple of days before to up to two years ago. Kinda creepy to think they keep all those old messages stored that long.

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Feds push for tracking cell phones
by Declan McCullagh

Two years ago, when the FBI was stymied by a band of armed robbers known as the "Scarecrow Bandits" that had robbed more than 20 Texas banks, it came up with a novel method of locating the thieves.

FBI agents obtained logs from mobile phone companies corresponding to what their cellular towers had recorded at the time of a dozen different bank robberies in the Dallas area. The voluminous records showed that two phones had made calls around the time of all 12 heists, and that those phones belonged to men named Tony Hewitt and Corey Duffey. A jury eventually convicted the duo of multiple bank robbery and weapons charges.

Even though police are tapping into the locations of mobile phones thousands of times a year, the legal ground rules remain unclear, and federal privacy laws written a generation ago are ambiguous at best. On Friday, the first federal appeals court to consider the topic will hear oral arguments (PDF) in a case that could establish new standards for locating wireless devices.

In that case, the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls.

Those claims have alarmed the ACLU and other civil liberties groups, which have opposed the Justice Department's request and plan to tell the U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia that Americans' privacy deserves more protection and judicial oversight than what the administration has proposed.

"This is a critical question for privacy in the 21st century," says Kevin Bankston, an attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation who will be arguing on Friday. "If the courts do side with the government, that means that everywhere we go, in the real world and online, will be an open book to the government unprotected by the Fourth Amendment."

Not long ago, the concept of tracking cell phones would have been the stuff of spy movies. In 1998's "Enemy of the State," Gene Hackman warned that the National Security Agency has "been in bed with the entire telecommunications industry since the '40s--they've infected everything." After a decade of appearances in "24" and "Live Free or Die Hard," location-tracking has become such a trope that it was satirized in a scene with Seth Rogen from "Pineapple Express" (2008).

Once a Hollywood plot, now 'commonplace'
Whether state and federal police have been paying attention to Hollywood, or whether it was the other way around, cell phone tracking has become a regular feature in criminal investigations. It comes in two forms: police obtaining retrospective data kept by mobile providers for their own billing purposes that may not be very detailed, or prospective data that reveals the minute-by-minute location of a handset or mobile device.

Obtaining location details is now "commonplace," says Al Gidari, a partner in the Seattle offices of Perkins Coie who represents wireless carriers. "It's in every pen register order these days."

Gidari says that the Third Circuit case could have a significant impact on police investigations within the court's jurisdiction, namely Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania; it could be persuasive beyond those states. But, he cautions, "if the privacy groups win, the case won't be over. It will certainly be appealed."

CNET was the first to report on prospective tracking in a 2005 news article. In a subsequent Arizona case, agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration tracked a tractor trailer with a drug shipment through a GPS-equipped Nextel phone owned by the suspect. Texas DEA agents have used cell site information in real time to locate a Chrysler 300M driving from Rio Grande City to a ranch about 50 miles away. Verizon Wireless and T-Mobile logs showing the location of mobile phones at the time calls became evidence in a Los Angeles murder trial.

And a mobile phone's fleeting connection with a remote cell tower operated by Edge Wireless is what led searchers to the family of the late James Kim, a CNET employee who died in the Oregon wilderness in 2006 after leaving a snowbound car to seek help.

The way tracking works is simple: mobile phones are miniature radio transmitters and receivers. A cellular tower knows the general direction of a mobile phone (many cell sites have three antennas pointing in different directions), and if the phone is talking to multiple towers, triangulation yields a rough location fix. With this method, accuracy depends in part on the density of cell sites.

The Federal Communications Commission's "Enhanced 911" (E911) requirements allowed rough estimates to be transformed into precise coordinates. Wireless carriers using CDMA networks, such as Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel, tend to use embedded GPS technology to fulfill E911 requirements. AT&T and T-Mobile comply with E911 regulations using network-based technology that computes a phone's location using signal analysis and triangulation between towers.

T-Mobile, for instance, uses a GSM technology called Uplink Time Difference of Arrival, or U-TDOA, which calculates a position based on precisely how long it takes signals to reach towers. A company called TruePosition, which provides U-TDOA services to T-Mobile, boasts of "accuracy to under 50 meters" that's available "for start-of-call, midcall, or when idle."

A 2008 court order to T-Mobile in a criminal investigation of a marriage fraud scheme, which was originally sealed and later made public, says: "T-Mobile shall disclose at such intervals and times as directed by (the Department of Homeland Security), latitude and longitude data that establishes the approximate positions of the Subject Wireless Telephone, by unobtrusively initiating a signal on its network that will enable it to determine the locations of the Subject Wireless Telephone."

'No reasonable expectation of privacy'
In the case that's before the Third Circuit on Friday, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, said it needed historical (meaning stored, not future) phone location information because a set of suspects "use their wireless telephones to arrange meetings and transactions in furtherance of their drug trafficking activities."

U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa Lenihan in Pennsylvania denied the Justice Department's attempt to obtain stored location data without a search warrant; prosecutors had invoked a different legal procedure. Lenihan's ruling, in effect, would require police to obtain a search warrant based on probable cause--a more privacy-protective standard.

Lenihan's opinion (PDF)--which, in an unusual show of solidarity, was signed by four other magistrate judges--noted that location information can reveal sensitive information such as health treatments, financial difficulties, marital counseling, and extra-marital affairs.

In its appeal to the Third Circuit, the Justice Department claims that Lenihan's opinion "contains, and relies upon, numerous errors" and should be overruled. In addition to a search warrant not being necessary, prosecutors said, because location "records provide only a very general indication of a user's whereabouts at certain times in the past, the requested cell-site records do not implicate a Fourth Amendment privacy interest."

The Obama administration is not alone in making this argument. U.S. District Judge William Pauley, a Clinton appointee in New York, wrote in a 2009 opinion that a defendant in a drug trafficking case, Jose Navas, "did not have a legitimate expectation of privacy in the cell phone" location. That's because Navas only used the cell phone "on public thoroughfares en route from California to New York" and "if Navas intended to keep the cell phone's location private, he simply could have turned it off."

(Most cases have involved the ground rules for tracking cell phone users prospectively, and judges have disagreed over what legal rules apply. Only a minority has sided with the Justice Department, however.)

Cellular providers tend not to retain moment-by-moment logs of when each mobile device contacts the tower, in part because there's no business reason to store the data, and in part because the storage costs would be prohibitive. They do, however, keep records of what tower is in use when a call is initiated or answered--and those records are generally stored for six months to a year, depending on the company.

Verizon Wireless keeps "phone records including cell site location for 12 months," Drew Arena, Verizon's vice president and associate general counsel for law enforcement compliance, said at a federal task force meeting in Washington, D.C. last week. Arena said the company keeps "phone bills without cell site location for seven years," and stores SMS text messages for only a very brief time.

Gidari, the Seattle attorney, said that wireless carriers have recently extended how long they store this information. "Prior to a year or two ago when location-based services became more common, if it were 30 days it would be surprising," he said.

The ACLU, EFF, the Center for Democracy and Technology, and University of San Francisco law professor Susan Freiwald argue that the wording of the federal privacy law in question allows judges to require the level of proof required for a search warrant "before authorizing the disclosure of particularly novel or invasive types of information." In addition, they say, Americans do not "knowingly expose their location information and thereby surrender Fourth Amendment protection whenever they turn on or use their cell phones."

"The biggest issue at stake is whether or not courts are going to accept the government's minimal view of what is protected by the Fourth Amendment," says EFF's Bankston. "The government is arguing that based on precedents from the 1970s, any record held by a third party about us, no matter how invasively collected, is not protected by the Fourth Amendment."
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 11:36:28 AM »
This is just confirmation to me that neither party has my liberties in the forefront of their concerns when enacting or fighting legislation.

Just power-ploys.

Democrats now love the Patriot Act now that they are in power.

Democrats now snoop on cell phone networks now that they are in power.

Democrats now want Internet Fairness (bandwidth rationing by protocol) now that they are in power.

Sigh.

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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 12:03:07 PM »

Just a reminder.  Do yourself a favor and throw a couple bucks at the EFF.   http://www.eff.org/

And for the love of the Gods, remove the battery from your cell phone when you are doing something you don't want tracked or bugged.  Yes, they can also turn on the mic as well as the GPS.  Even when you're not making a telephone call.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 12:15:15 PM »
Just a reminder.  Do yourself a favor and throw a couple bucks at the EFF.   http://www.eff.org/

And for the love of the Gods, remove the battery from your cell phone when you are doing something you don't want tracked or bugged.  Yes, they can also turn on the mic as well as the GPS.  Even when you're not making a telephone call.

Yep, well known.

I don't do anything that I'm concerned about (yet) but I have noticed that on Appleseed days, sometimes my battery is abnormally low even though I make no phone calls.

Sometimes that can be attributed to increasing power usage to find a cell tower.

However... one of my co-instructors and I have the same brand phone, on the same provider.  Sometimes his battery will be near-dead on a given day, while my battery is fine.  Sometimes my battery is the one that's toast while his is fine.  And this will happen even when we're at shooting ranges with good cell phone coverage.  Usually each of us can go 2-3 days with this model phone without recharging it.

Given that TPTB enjoy snooping on such groups I wouldn't put it past "someone" to be listening in while we're teaching.

I don't mind... they could use the education, frankly.  Effers.

But, I would prefer if my battery weren't drained.  My phone is a primary lifeline for calling paramedics or law enforcement in the event of a problem.  Perhaps I'll pull the battery during the day at future events.
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 12:23:24 PM »
Is that a legal requirement, the whole the-feds-can-turn-on-your-phone-remotely thing?
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 12:29:01 PM »
Is that a legal requirement, the whole the-feds-can-turn-on-your-phone-remotely thing?

Basically, assume the telecoms and the government are the same thing.  Because they pretty much are.

And if they aren't...  well.  After their CEO gets nailed with BS charges, they will be in short order.  (Reference to NSA and Qwest)
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 12:29:17 PM »
IIRC The feds were using a secondary channel for the On-Star service (Government Motors) and was turning the mics on in  mobsters' cars.  The down side for the person under surveillance was that this secondary channel was the crash notification channel, so On-Star might have not been able to react if they crashed.
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 12:51:29 PM »
Okay, I'll just say this once: I know for a fact that they don't care, at this point. Cellphones are already tracked, used as monitoring devices, etc.

Period.

The gov't would just like it to be more "legal" for them.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 12:59:16 PM »
Would the court say the same thing about credit cards? Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy for a credit card user when it comes to when and where something was charged?

I fail to see the difference.

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 01:20:52 PM »
Would the court say the same thing about credit cards? Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy for a credit card user when it comes to when and where something was charged?

I fail to see the difference.

A credit card does not radiate an identifiable signature that allows tracking, simply by virtue of being carried through a particular area.  Even (stupid) credit cards with RFIDs in them (like the Visa "Swiping a card through a slot is just too much bloody effort, let me wave the card at the sensor and get my cheetos" PayPass cards) do not actively radiate, and would have to be scanned for.  But a cell phone that is turned on is constantly yammering back and forth with the towers, and can be detected and tracked passively, or (at a rougher resolution) by just scraping the tower comm logs.

I'm willing to believe that a phone that is turned on can be activated as a bug by the PTB, though I question the idea that any phone, even if it's turned off, can be secretly turned on; current smartphones are really just very small but fully-capable computers, and their "phone" capabilities are tied pretty tight with their operating systems.  Especially with open-source smartphone OSes (like Android), I would think it'd be pretty tough to hide secret-boot-and-transmit code in there, which means that any such capability would have to be hardwired as a function separate from the regular function of the phone.  Could it be done?  Sure.  Do I believe that every smartphone out there has had this done to it?  No.

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2010, 02:20:28 PM »
I'm willing to believe that a phone that is turned on can be activated as a bug by the PTB, though I question the idea that any phone, even if it's turned off, can be secretly turned on; current smartphones are really just very small but fully-capable computers, and their "phone" capabilities are tied pretty tight with their operating systems.  Especially with open-source smartphone OSes (like Android), I would think it'd be pretty tough to hide secret-boot-and-transmit code in there, which means that any such capability would have to be hardwired as a function separate from the regular function of the phone.  Could it be done?  Sure.  Do I believe that every smartphone out there has had this done to it?  No.

Ah.  It's not a willingness to believe.  The phone being able to be used as a bug is required by law.  This is done by a combination of Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA, Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279, codified at 47 USC 1001-1010) and FCC regulations for operating a radio frequency device in a restricted portion of the EM spectrum.   The EM spectrum is legally considered government property, regardless of location.  If you're using a phone that is not able of being bugged by LE or intel, you are in violation of the law.
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 02:59:45 PM »
Ah.  It's not a willingness to believe.  The phone being able to be used as a bug is required by law.  This is done by a combination of Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA, Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279, codified at 47 USC 1001-1010) and FCC regulations for operating a radio frequency device in a restricted portion of the EM spectrum.   The EM spectrum is legally considered government property, regardless of location.  If you're using a phone that is not able of being bugged by LE or intel, you are in violation of the law.


Does the law specifically state that a device has to be able to be turned on remotely?  Or does it simply state that when the device is on and communicating with the network, it can be activated as a bug remotely?

I don't have the time to read the law at the moment, but I'd be inclined to expect the latter.  And there's a huge difference between the two.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 03:19:27 PM »
Does the law specifically state that a device has to be able to be turned on remotely?  Or does it simply state that when the device is on and communicating with the network, it can be activated as a bug remotely?

I don't have the time to read the law at the moment, but I'd be inclined to expect the latter.  And there's a huge difference between the two.

Dunno, I'm familiar with the law in a general sense, but obviously I'm not a lawyer.  Very simple way for folks here to test how much background commo is going on.  Put your cell phone near stereo speakers, then the stereo on and up the volume with nothing playing.  You'll hear pulses if the phone is on.  Then turn off your phone and see if shows any activity.   Heck of a lot cheaper than a spectrum analyzer.    =D

Cells only work if they are authenticated to the tower as using valid protocols.  Think of the TCP handshake.  Not so much a "I'm a legit customer", as "I am speaking the correct protocol" handshake.  No handshake, no commo.  Cells don't do UDP style commo, AFAIK, only session based packet protocols.   AFAIK, there is no sessionless magic packet like WOL for cell phones.

Only other ways is to see if the cell phone is drawing current while turned off.   
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 03:24:09 PM »
I don't have a cell phone.   =D

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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 03:24:26 PM »
Very simple way for folks here to test how much background commo is going on.  Put your cell phone near stereo speakers, then the stereo on and up the volume with nothing playing.  You'll hear pulses if the phone is on.  Then turn off your phone and see if shows any activity.   Heck of a lot cheaper than a spectrum analyzer.    =D
  

Doesn't work, or I'm doing it wrong.

Took my phone, turned on, went out to stereo in living room.  Turned on receiver, switched to an empty input with no input coming in (DVR input).  Maxed out the volume so I could hear a hiss in the speakers just barely.  Put phone next to the speakers.  Nothing.

Made a phone call to deliberately activate the phone's tx/rx capabilities.  Held phone near speaker.  Nothing.
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2010, 03:27:06 PM »
Doesn't work, or I'm doing it wrong.

Took my phone, turned on, went out to stereo in living room.  Turned on receiver, switched to an empty input with no input coming in (DVR input).  Maxed out the volume so I could hear a hiss in the speakers just barely.  Put phone next to the speakers.  Nothing.

Made a phone call to deliberately activate the phone's tx/rx capabilities.  Held phone near speaker.  Nothing.

Try a cheap unshielded speaker.  Like your alarm clock or whatnot.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 03:30:17 PM »
The speaker thing works with my Nextel (Sprint) personal phone, but not with my Verizon phone. I only have higher end speakers handy at work. Is this partially dependent on the band the phone uses?
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »
The speaker thing works with my Nextel (Sprint) personal phone, but not with my Verizon phone. I only have higher end speakers handy at work. Is this partially dependent on the band the phone uses?

Yes.    =D
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2010, 02:25:26 PM »
Who needs sub-Q microchips, when people will carry them voluntarily?  ;/

I'm glad they caught the bank robbers, but what if they were tracking folks attending protest rallies, etc  :O

But I'm thinking there might be some sort of market for a carrying case with sound and radio wave shielding  ???

Or just wrap your cellphone in tinfoil  =D
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2010, 03:40:09 PM »
Currently, there are still ways to eliminate the cell phone tracking issue.  If you thought you needed to be  flying under the radar, you can buy a prepaid phone with cash and buy the additional minute cards with cash.  As long as you used  the appropriate OPSEC and called others who did the same, there isn't much chance any government tracking system can ascertain who you are (unless of course they aren't using the voice recognization software... where is my tin hat?)

Basically, my cell phone isn't used for much of anything that I worry about.  I could care less if the government tracks where I am when I make a call.  They're going to be pretty bored.  If I was trying to be covert, I'd spend a few dollars and their ability is pretty much negated as they can't connect a number to a person unless... (where IS that tin foil hat?  I know I had had it here someplace)

People are having a meltdown on this and are ignoring other tracking systems which can provide a heck of a lot more info.


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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2010, 04:10:00 PM »
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2010, 06:04:12 PM »
Currently, there are still ways to eliminate the cell phone tracking issue.  If you thought you needed to be  flying under the radar, you can buy a prepaid phone with cash and buy the additional minute cards with cash.  As long as you used  the appropriate OPSEC and called others who did the same, there isn't much chance any government tracking system can ascertain who you are (unless of course they aren't using the voice recognization software... where is my tin hat?)

Basically, my cell phone isn't used for much of anything that I worry about.  I could care less if the government tracks where I am when I make a call.  They're going to be pretty bored.  If I was trying to be covert, I'd spend a few dollars and their ability is pretty much negated as they can't connect a number to a person unless... (where IS that tin foil hat?  I know I had had it here someplace)

Or you could tell the government to get a friggin warrant if they want to tap your phone, like they're bloody well supposed to.  Americans should not have to go to great lengths to keep any legal activity from the prying eyes of their government. 

Rather than go to extreme measures to ensure your own privacy, how's about spending 5% of that time and money on correcting the original problem?


Who says "they" aren't tracking folks who attend tea parties and townhall meetings?

No tactic is too vile for the leftists when it comes to suppressing their opponents.

Sir, if you only believe leftists are interested in crushing your civil liberties and monitoring your communications, I have some very nice ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. 
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2010, 08:24:12 PM »
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I don't have a cell phone.

Best solution.

I do have one, provided by my employer.  It goes from my home to my workplace and back again.  When I'm not at work, it sits on the counter while I go out.

Some call me a Luddite, but I see no need to be in constant contact/reachable/traceable.
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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2010, 09:05:07 PM »
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Sir, if you only believe leftists are interested in crushing your civil liberties and monitoring your communications, I have some very nice ocean front property in Arizona to sell you

Oh, I don't believe it's only the leftists, but the leftists simply have the highest body count so far...

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Re: Feds Push for Cell Phone Tracking
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2010, 11:49:19 PM »
But I'm thinking there might be some sort of market for a carrying case with sound and radio wave shielding  ???

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