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Title: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2019, 08:58:58 AM
I'm in:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7265263/Uninhabited-660-acre-Scottish-island-four-bedroom-farmhouse-ferry-sale-1-4m.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR0GmDy2rUvJQUbFyMJv3q3f7SVtZwaQKvRJKscGBeNBTd5i00kOfsZwGh8
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Fly320s on July 22, 2019, 09:19:12 AM
I'm in.

Just add a private shooting range, landing strip, and boat dock.  What more do I need?
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: K Frame on July 22, 2019, 09:21:37 AM
Wow. That's pretty damned neat.

Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Pb on July 22, 2019, 09:22:20 AM
Awesome!   =D
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 22, 2019, 09:22:39 AM
I'm in.

Just add a private shooting range, landing strip, and boat dock.  What more do I need?

A pub.

Brad
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2019, 09:36:13 AM
A pub distillery.

Brad

It's Scotland. FTFY.  =D
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Silver Bullet on July 22, 2019, 10:05:12 AM
Group buy.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Fly320s on July 22, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
A pub.

Brad

A pub?  So I can share drinks with other people?  I think not!  I'll drink it all myself.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: HankB on July 22, 2019, 11:03:14 AM
I'm in.

Just add a private shooting range, landing strip, and boat dock.  What more do I need?
Submarine pen.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: BobR on July 22, 2019, 11:19:14 AM

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Gun laws in Scotland differ in some details from those in the rest of the UK. However, in terms of licensing they are, currently, identical to the rest of Great Britain. A firearms certificate is required to purchase firearms,[60] and a separate shotgun certificate is required for shotguns.[61] The guiding laws for firearms in Scotland are the Firearms (Scotland) Rules 1989 and the Firearms Act (1968). All handguns, semi-automatic and pump-action non-rim-fire rifles are prohibited. A few pistols are licensed on a Firearm Certificate for exactly the same reasons as the rest of Great Britain. There are only 566 licensed handgun owners in Scotland.[62]

I'll pass on this one but thanks anyhow. ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_regulations_in_the_United_Kingdom

bob
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2019, 11:48:45 AM
I'll pass on this one but thanks anyhow. ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_regulations_in_the_United_Kingdom

bob


Well, it appears we're getting a submarine, so we can probably sneak in some guns and suppressors. :)
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: 230RN on July 22, 2019, 01:01:46 PM
The firearms issue is a deal-killer.  I guess the government of GB is tired of their subjects revolting. :scowl:

I'druther be a citizen than a subject any day.

Terry
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: K Frame on July 22, 2019, 01:02:50 PM
The firearms issue is a deal-killer.  I guess the government of GB is tired of people revolting. :scowl:

Terry


Prime Minister: THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!

Queen Elizabeth: You can say that again...
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Devonai on July 22, 2019, 05:11:27 PM
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All handguns, semi-automatic and pump-action non-rim-fire rifles are prohibited.

But it's an island...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/70-pounder_Whitworth_naval_gun
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 22, 2019, 06:05:47 PM
Well, it appears we're getting a submarine, so we can probably sneak in some guns and suppressors. :)

Recruit enough people, bring enough arms, and declare independence.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: charby on July 22, 2019, 07:16:20 PM
I wonder what the taxes are per year on the island.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: BobR on July 22, 2019, 07:22:10 PM
I wonder what the taxes are per year on the island.

That is an interesting question so just for grins I looked  here (https://www.revenue.scot/land-buildings-transaction-tax/guidance/calculating-tax-rates-and-bands) and came up with more questions but one for sure answer, there are taxes.  ;)

bob
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
That is an interesting question so just for grins I looked  here (https://www.revenue.scot/land-buildings-transaction-tax/guidance/calculating-tax-rates-and-bands) and came up with more questions but one for sure answer, there are taxes.  ;)

bob

So if we call ourselves a think tank and make ourselves an LLC (or their equivalent), it's a non-residential property and the highest tax is 5% instead of 12%?  =D
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Scout26 on July 23, 2019, 02:11:37 AM
Recruit enough people, bring enough arms, and declare independence.


We can hold a referendum after we take over errr, move in.  Then if that doesn't work, we can dust off Jefferson's masterpiece, change the date, and send that to both Edinburgh and London.  


Looking at in detail, there is only one 4 bedroom house.  The other "house" in the pictures is a bit of a "fixer-up-er", and I'm sure all of us want to spread out a bit.  So there' that.  However, it does come with our own beef cattle.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Scout26 on July 23, 2019, 02:24:05 AM
We'd need a bigger island, and somewhere warm.  Malta is about the right size and latitude... =D =D =D =D
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: 230RN on July 23, 2019, 07:12:52 AM
Malta ?

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Population
• 2018 estimate 475,700

That's a whole independent country.  I'm not sure we APS-ers would be wise rulers.  Besides, it's easily blockaded.  We need ocean around us, not just sea.

But agreed, it would be warmer.

I like the idea of re-drafting the Declaration of Independence (see Reply #18) and sending that off to England.  Maybe we could even get France to help us with powder and shot.  We could hint (with our fingers crossed) about joining the EU. =D

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: K Frame on July 23, 2019, 07:37:02 AM
"We'd need a bigger island..."

No, no, that's more than big enough. I don't want to run all over God's green earth chasing you guys when I hunt you down for sport.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: cordex on July 23, 2019, 07:49:01 AM
"We'd need a bigger island..."

No, no, that's more than big enough. I don't want to run all over God's green earth chasing you guys when I hunt you down for sport.
Just think how many steps your pedometer will show after a long day of hunting the most dangerous game of all.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: charby on July 23, 2019, 07:49:39 AM
"We'd need a bigger island..."

No, no, that's more than big enough. I don't want to run all over God's green earth chasing you guys when I hunt you down for sport.

A little bigger than a square mile, mostly open. Right scope on a .50 BMG rifle and no one is safe on the island.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 24, 2019, 08:00:48 AM
Price and how it's already developed make it unique.  A quick browsing of private islands around the world...it's a steal.
But I prefer warmer climes.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: K Frame on July 24, 2019, 08:06:11 AM
You're just worried that the leprechaun king will send out a hit squad for your crime of leaving the little people...
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2019, 08:08:23 AM
Price and how it's already developed make it unique.  A quick browsing of private islands around the world...it's a steal.
But I prefer warmer climes.


Hey, we had our chance at several Caribbean islands over the years, but none of you cheapskates would pony up for them, so suck it up and buy a sweater. :P  :laugh:

I actually would like the climate, I think. One of the things that kept me from moving to Hawaii (besides the politics) is the monotony of the weather. If I would have moved there, it would have been the big island and up high so I could at least experience minimal seasonal changes. I like shorts and flip flops weather for a few weeks of vacation, but not all year, especially if I have to do any kind of outdoor work-like activities.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: charby on July 24, 2019, 08:14:30 AM
Also since it is Scottish, it is a Daingneach not a Festung.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: 230RN on July 24, 2019, 08:17:41 AM
"We'd need a bigger island..."

No, no, that's more than big enough. I don't want to run all over God's green earth chasing you guys when I hunt you down for sport.

It's not "sport," and humans aren't the most dangerous quarry unless they can shoot back.  

And hunt you as well.

I haven't gone over the prospectus in detail, but where do they get potable fresh water from?  And power?



Terry
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2019, 08:19:02 AM
Also since it is Scottish, it is a Daingneach not a Festung.

Once the krauts march in, it's a Festung. "You vill comply!"
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: K Frame on July 24, 2019, 09:34:23 AM
Who cares whether it's actually sport or not, or whether you're the most dangerous game or not?

I just want to hunt you sorry bastards!
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: charby on July 24, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
Once the krauts march in, it's a Festung. "You vill comply!"

I'm more Scot than Kraut, you will be dining on haggis by sunset.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2019, 09:56:00 AM
I'm more Scot than Kraut, you will be dining on haggis by sunset.

Good. I love haggis. :)
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: cordex on July 24, 2019, 09:57:57 AM
I'm more Scot than Kraut, you will be dining on haggis by sunset.
Least tempting pickup line ever.

Worked on Ben, though, I guess.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2019, 10:00:36 AM

Worked on Ben, though, I guess.

Some of us Bens know what's good. :P  =D
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: charby on July 24, 2019, 10:32:19 AM
Good. I love haggis. :)

That's a good thing since Krauts don't have the best track record winning modern wars.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2019, 10:33:36 AM
That's a good thing since Krauts don't have the best track record winning modern wars.

Neither do the kilt wearing sissies. :P
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: charby on July 24, 2019, 11:42:10 AM
Neither do the kilt wearing sissies. :P

Dressing in drag before it was cool.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 24, 2019, 12:03:32 PM
Neither do the kilt wearing sissies. :P

So when was the last time you tossed around telephone poles for sport?
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: HankB on July 24, 2019, 12:34:38 PM
So when was the last time you tossed around telephone poles for sport?
Telephone poles? Did a Google search for them.

Here in Texas we call 'em chopsticks.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: 230RN on July 24, 2019, 12:44:28 PM
Somehow, it looks like wishful thinking.

(https://www.scotclans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Braden-Caber-Toss1.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm

ons/thumb/4/4c/Caber_2.jpg/306px-

Caber_2.jpg)

However, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Terry, 230RN

Pic credits in properties
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: K Frame on July 29, 2019, 07:38:41 AM
"I haven't gone over the prospectus in detail, but where do they get potable fresh water from?  And power?"

Fresh water is likely from wells on the island. Even though you're surrounded by salt water, fresh water, in the form of rain, is less dense than salt water.

When it rains and the water percolates down through the ground it forms a fresh water layer on top of the salt water.

If that weren't the case, Hawaii wouldn't be habitable by the number of people that are living there.


Power? Probably a distribution cable from the mainland.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Ben on July 29, 2019, 08:41:07 AM
So when was the last time you tossed around telephone poles for sport?

Never bring a telephone pole to a gewehr fight.
Title: Re: Who's Up for Ex-pating to the New APS Festung?
Post by: Devonai on July 29, 2019, 08:35:06 PM
What about maschinenpoles to a maschinengewehr fight?