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Paddy

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Let's discuss something of substance........
« on: July 02, 2007, 02:50:55 PM »
.........anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2007, 03:07:05 PM »
Mass?
Islamic sex dolls.  Do they blow themselves up?

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 03:10:10 PM »
OK.  Black bag searches.

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FBI to Boost 'Black Bag' Search Ops

As part of its growing intelligence operations within the United States, the FBI has increased its surreptitious entry and search missions since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, according to an unclassified bureau document.

"The refocusing of FBI operational priorities and the new emphasis placed on intelligence-based activities...has resulted in a dramatic increase" in the demand for so-called "black bag" jobs, in which teams of highly-trained specialists covertly enter a home or office, search its contents and leave without indicating they had been there, states the budget document.

It does not detail how many of the secret searches it carries out, and the FBI did not respond to comment.

The bureau is asking Congress for an additional $5 million to pay for the operations and more than a dozen new specialized personnel.

In 1995, most of the FBI's secret search operations were related to criminal investigations, according to the document. Last year, close to 90 percent of such operations were for national security matters, it asserts.

"It's obviously troubling that people's homes are being searched, and they may never learn of it -- if they're never charged with a crime," said Lisa Graves of the Center for National Security Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank which studies intelligence policy and constitutional issues. Graves told the Blotter on ABCNews.com she does not believe the searches receive sufficient judicial oversight.

The FBI did not respond to a request for comment.

In advance of a surreptitious search on a national security matter, the FBI is required to obtain approval from a secret body known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.  In a criminal matter, it must obtain a judicial warrant.

The FBI document obtained by ABCNews.com includes new details about how the secret search operations go down.

"The execution of covert entry/search operations usually requires the [FBI] to physically deploy a team of approximately 11 agent personnel full time over a period of time (usually at least 3 days) to the target location," the document states. 

Last year, the unit's 18 agents spent an average of 97 days on the road, according to the document. That suggests the bureau carried out roughly 50 of the secret operations.

Last year, the operations were 90 percent successful, according to the document.  But the team faces challenges from new advances in security technology and needs additional engineers, technicians and analysts to help plan and prepare for each operation.

Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/as_part_of_its_.html
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2007, 03:10:51 PM »
Mass?
I'm not a Catholic. How bout just a party?
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 03:11:31 PM »
I find this sort of behavior by our government to be reprehensible in the extreme.
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 03:15:05 PM »
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Black bag searches.
I knew nothing about that.  It's bullshit. OTOH, the borders are so porous, they're probably searching the homes of the millions here illegally.  I'm ambivalent, to tell you the truth. (since I haven't been, and will not be, the target of any such search).

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2007, 03:17:06 PM »
Why do people like the sound of the word "freedom" but do not like the idea of letting other people do what they want to?

That's my suggested topic.
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 03:21:06 PM »
I'm ambivalent, to tell you the truth. (since I haven't been, and will not be, the target of any such search).
How do you know?  Isn't that what a black-bag search is all about?
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 03:21:45 PM »
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Why do people like the sound of the word "freedom" but do not like the idea of letting other people do what they want to?
Please give an example(s)

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 03:22:47 PM »
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I'm ambivalent, to tell you the truth. (since I haven't been, and will not be, the target of any such search).
How do you know?  Isn't that what a black-bag search is all about?
The motion detector alarms would tell me.  Besides, I'm never away from home for more than a couple of hours.

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2007, 04:55:36 PM »
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I'm ambivalent, to tell you the truth. (since I haven't been, and will not be, the target of any such search).
How do you know?  Isn't that what a black-bag search is all about?
The motion detector alarms would tell me.  Besides, I'm never away from home for more than a couple of hours.
Do you really think the Feds can't work their way around a motion detector?
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 05:05:23 PM »
We should discuss something that really sucks. Like black holes.
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 06:17:18 PM »
Black holes do indeed suck.

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 07:17:30 PM »
In other news, they are now officially called something like 'extremely high gravity events'.

'Black holes' was offensive.

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2007, 07:43:05 PM »
Sorry for saying "holes". The PC police are battering down the doors as I rapidly apologize!
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2007, 07:46:16 PM »
Heh... If you guys think you've got it rough - Jen is insisting that apply for a business license, which in my quaint municipality requires an inspection of the premises.
 
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2007, 07:49:21 PM »
Pictures man! We need pictures!

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2007, 04:02:44 AM »
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Please give an example(s)

The most straightforward examples are the laws against some drugs and sodomy for consenting adults.

Pretty much every polotician I have heard used the word freedom in their campaign.  So is it hypocritical to enact such laws?  I would say yes.  While drugs can be destructive to the individual, they only destroy themselves.  Sodomy harms nobody, yet many states still ban it.  Those poloticians can tell me about how these things contribute to the downfall of our scociety, just please don't say that while calling it freedom.  It's not freedom unless it includes the choice to screw up your own life.
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2007, 04:13:10 AM »
Mass?

Here's something of mass and a lot of substance?



But this version just sorta sucks:


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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2007, 05:02:00 AM »
The big question is, is there enough dark matter in the universe to reverse expansion and cause it to collapse back on itself?  Or will it continue its outward expansion forever?  Until the night sky is completely dark because everything will be so far away from everything else?

An ever bigger question is, what difference does it make?

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2007, 07:57:04 AM »
Here's an interesting website  http://www.earthpulse.com/default.asp  Hopefully, Mike will check in.  I know he'll be excited about the Nanotronic Nutrientstm and will want to order right away.  Be sure to check out HAARP, too.

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2007, 08:56:13 AM »
How about the Rods of Ra?

I still want to talk about those. I'm not sure how they work.
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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2007, 09:45:13 AM »
Mass and substance?

Well.. no there's no substance, but definitely plenty of mass.



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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2007, 10:48:49 AM »
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How about the Rods of Ra?

I still want to talk about those. I'm not sure how they work.
To understand the Rods of Ra, you must first be introduced to BA and KA.

Rods of Ra - Guidelines and Suggestions For Experimental Use

   The Rods of Ra are based on the two polarities of energy known as the "BA" and the "KA" in Egypt, or the Yin and Yang in the Eastern Traditions. The use of the Rods of Ra attempt to balance these two energies by recharging nervous energy. In ancient Egypt, this technique was used for the strengthening and restoration of currents of energy within the body. The two Rods, when clasped in the hands of standing figures, were the grips of tremendous power, akin to electricity (secondary electricity), which when the grips were held in the hand released this energy into the body, to be stored in unipolar ganglias, and spinal fluid, raising the potential of energy 100% and lasting for a period of 24 hours.

   The "KA" is considered to be the essential ingredient or dimension that differentiates a living person from a dead one. Difficult to directly translate, possibly one of the most concise interpretations is "life force" or "sustenance". The "KA" is represented in hieroglyphs by a pair of arms pointing upwards.

   The "BA" is considered to be an individual's distinctive manifestation, similar to our concept of personality in that it comprised all of the non-physical attributes which make each human being unique.

   The COPPER Rod (KA, Male Energy) represents the Sun and is the Rod of Power and is always held in the RIGHT hand. The RIGHT side of the body is considered to be positively charged.

   The ZINC Rod (BA, Female Energy) represents the Moon and is always held in the LEFT hand. The LEFT side of the body is considered to be negatively charged.
http://www.rodsofra.com/how_to_use.htm

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Re: Let's discuss something of substance........
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2007, 10:54:45 AM »
Having had a good bit of Egyptology, that's so much BS it's not even funny.