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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 01:53:01 PM »
No, but producers and directors can easily hire experts in the field who can instruct the actors on proper firearms techniques.  
If they were making a documentary I'd expect them to be sticklers for the facts.  Since they're producing fictional entertainment, I wonder why anyone would expect them to nitpick about firearms technique.

A lot of people seem to forget that the point of shows like 24 is to entertain, not to be politically correct or have accurate depictions of gunplay.

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 02:07:03 PM »
Wow, what a short run.  The show's been on for what?  Eight days?  Nine days?
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 02:17:06 PM »
Wow, what a short run.  The show's been on for what?  Eight days?  Nine days?

About as long as Firefly. :P

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2010, 02:34:39 PM »
A lot of people seem to forget that the point of shows like 24 is to entertain, not to be politically correct or have accurate depictions of gunplay.

But Hollywood also forgets (or, more likely doesn't care) that many viewers of their shows are technically adept, and immediately spot technical flaws that detract from a story line.  That makes the viewing experience less enjoyable for many.
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2010, 02:42:49 PM »
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2010, 04:17:41 PM »
But Hollywood also forgets (or, more likely doesn't care) that many viewers of their shows are technically adept, and immediately spot technical flaws that detract from a story line.  That makes the viewing experience less enjoyable for many.


Which I now realize is what gunsmith was trying to say.  I thought he was bothered by the writers not being experts.   
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2010, 04:23:14 PM »
But Hollywood also forgets (or, more likely doesn't care) that many viewers of their shows are technically adept, and immediately spot technical flaws that detract from a story line.  That makes the viewing experience less enjoyable for many.
Nope, Hollywood doesn't care.  Why should they?  Their intended market isn't internet gun geeks, nor should it be.

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2010, 06:31:33 PM »
I've found if one has any expertise much beyond the average person in any given area one tends to find lots of stuff to poke holes in when they see something related to that subject on a TV show or a movie. I'm always seeing horrible inaccuracies related to guns and gunplay, or things related to computers, and my wife (a trauma RN) is always groaning at the horrible medical inaccuracies in shows.

I certainly don't think it's just guns they get wrong. They pretty much get the details of most things wrong.

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2010, 12:20:41 AM »
I've heard watching Top Gun with a navy pilot in the room is fun.
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2010, 02:41:48 AM »
Nope, Hollywood doesn't care.  Why should they?

Part of the reason Dragnet was so good was Jack Webb's penchant for accuracy.

Of course, his goofy walk was distracting, but everything else made it a classic.

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2010, 08:03:01 AM »
Nope, Hollywood doesn't care.  Why should they?  Their intended market isn't internet gun geeks, nor should it be.

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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2010, 08:19:59 AM »
I've found if one has any expertise much beyond the average person in any given area one tends to find lots of stuff to poke holes in when they see something related to that subject on a TV show or a movie.
I'd go further - when one has some expertise about a given topic ON THE NEWS, he'll likely be able to spot a great many inaccuracies in the news story.

So if Hollywood and the news can't get it right about topics a person has personal knowledge about . . . why would one assume they get it right when one DOESN'T have personal knowledge of the topic?

I'm a skeptic about EVERYTHING I see in the movies and on TV . . . unless a show is meant as pure entertainment so I can just lean back, relax, and enjoy it, the "message" us usually going to be lost on me.
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2010, 08:54:36 AM »
The best show on television.  Maybe Kiefer has made enough money to drink the rest of his life away.  What does that leave?  'Reality TV ?'   [barf]  American Idol with the gay primadonna Simon Cowell?  [barf]  Biggest Loser with a bunch of fatass self absorbed neurotics?  Dancing with the Stars is better than both those shows put together.   Check out Craig Ferguson, Late late show CBS.
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2010, 10:23:43 AM »
Gene Simmons Family Jewels... I was laughing so hard so long last night at one particular part I felt like an idiot for not being able to stop. Thinking about it has got me laughing now:lol:

Is that the show where on one of the episodes they go "back to nature" in a motor home and hotty Shannon Tweed is the fish catching whiz while Gene's afraid to step out of the motor home?

I caught that last year I think. I've gotta check Hulu and catch up!
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Re: Jack Bauer's '24' getting cancelled
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2010, 10:38:28 AM »
Nope, gene's birthday and they are talking to him via web phone with video, them (family and several friends) at the house and him in a hotel room in San Fran. First off it was funny because he had no idea how to talk on the computer so he kept leaning over to speak in the mic and all you could see was the top of his head but THEN he's in his bathrobe and someone knocks on the door,  as he gets up to get it his bathrobe flies open and you get a (blurred over for TV) shot of his, uh, junk, and all the friends at the other end jump back in unison and go "Whoa!". I can't recall the last time I laughed so hard.  :lol:
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