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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on December 14, 2010, 11:49:23 AM
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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/13/the-wind-is-no-longer-at-voyagers-back/
No more solar wind behind Voyager 1.
Makes me wonder how much longer it can operate. Was it nuclear powered, or did it get juice from solar panels?
And, will it get torn apart by some sort of freak interstellar storm wind once it leaves the protection of Sol's positive-pressure "breeze"?
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It's nuclear powered.
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Pretty cool that we're heading out of the solar system. Thought it was kinda funny though yesterday to see a headline, "Voyager leaving space". I didn't know it had trans-dimensional capability. :)
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Well, I, for one, am glad to learn that our little toy will be headed towards our trans-galactic overlords through a wormhole.
stay safe.
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Well, I, for one, am glad to learn that our little toy will be headed towards our trans-galactic overlords through a wormhole.....
.....where it will meet the denizens of a machine planet, be incorporated into one of their probes, and return to earth as "V'Ger" in the year 2279 only to be dealt with by the crafty and wily Captain James T. Kirk. [tinfoil] [tinfoil]
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Ugh... all the stupid in the comments.
65. Dave Says:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
So is it still working? Are we still able to get a ping or a beep out of it? It would be cool if Voyager left our solar system and could still say “hi I’m still alive.” Otherwise it will be humanity’s first interstellar litter.
Did he even read the article? ???
75. Nathan Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 1:10 am
I believe the voyager craft were the last to be nuclear powered before all the treaties were signed preventing nukes to be detonated in the atmosphere. Shame the leaders lack the vision of the scientists and didn’t allow for this form of propulsion to be continually used.
;/ (facepalm)
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It was launched before personal computers were everywhere, before cell phones, before the internet! But it was given a powerful boost by its rocket, and another by the two largest planets in the solar system as it swung by them. And now, in just a few more years, it will have left our nest forever.
Too bad they hadn't figured out solar sails back then, or it would be going a lot faster by now, and be a lot farther away.
Still, Bon Voyager! =)
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I guess it is only a matter of time before the Psychos find it.
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I guess it is only a matter of time before the Psychos find it.
Do you mean the Reavers? ???
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Do you mean the Reavers? ???
No, Psychlos:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fidolator.com%2Fassets%2Fresources%2F2008%2F04%2FPSYCHLO.JPG&hash=b994ebab18e270331a364f778cd3acedfe2a72e7)
Chris
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.....where it will meet the denizens of a machine planet, be incorporated into one of their probes, and return to earth as "V'Ger" in the year 2279 only to be dealt with by the crafty and wily Captain James T. Kirk. [tinfoil] [tinfoil]
Or not, since those Romulans went back in time and destroyed Vulcan, thus altering the timeline. :P
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For the next 10,000 years or so, the odds are better for Both Pioneers and Voyagers that someone from the Sol system/Earth will run out in better ships to retrieve them for a museum, than any aliens finding them.
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You gotta hand it to the folks at JPL for building a damn fine machine.
Brad
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Don't forget that there's a pulsar roadmap pointing back to Earth plastered to the side of it. =D
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Fact: a manhole cover probably came there first.
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Fact: a manhole cover probably came there first.
???
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???
Ever hear of Operation Plumbbob?
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Ever hear of Operation Plumbbob?
And it's sister operations - Torpedo Level, Measuring Tape, and Framing Square.
Brad
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Ever hear of Operation Plumbbob?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob#The_first_nuclear-propelled_manmade_object_in_space.3F
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I'd like to think the plate did escape the Earth, some of the upper estimates were about 42 miles per second, (which ironically is about the maximum speed the Voyagers ever attained during the Jupiter/Saturn grav slingshots) but the shape was hardly aerodynamic, and there's no accounting for losses due to tumbling, or compressive/frictional heating.
Meteors that are at least roughly spherical, and massed more than the plate, and coming in at that speed tend to not reach the ground either.
Also, that was the plate's maximum velocity at the detonation site, it would have been doing nothing but slowing after that, from the atmosphere, then the Earth's gravity, then the Sun's.
Then, even if we simplify the launch direction, and assume it was largely straight up at the zenith, what time of day was the test? Anything other than a night shot well after midnight and significantly before noon (Say between the hours of 3am and 9am...) would be robbed significantly of velocity by having a nominal retrograde launch against Earth's orbit about the sun.
And if it's launch were orbit neutral it would have largely had mostly a straight velocity out from the sun, and just fallen back on a long hyperbole.
I say 1/1000 odds it left the atmosphere. And 1/100 odds it's left the Solar System.
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Or not, since those Romulans went back in time and destroyed Vulcan, thus altering the timeline. :P
I do not accept the recent ... "movie" as being part of any Star Trek Universe I grew up with and know and love. [tinfoil] That didn't actually happen. [tinfoil] Vulcan is still there and is doing well. [tinfoil] [tinfoil] :angel: :lol:
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lol... I don't accept the travesty of the first Star Trek movie as belonging to that Universe.
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It wasn't that bad, just edited in a really screwball fashion.
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I retaliated by watching all seven seasons of Deep Space Nine again.
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So, can i carry a phaser with a CA CCP?
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So....how long until Voyager makes to the Delta Quadrant and meets up with Voyager?.....
...and I'd accept the nuStar Trek movie long before I'd ever accept the Enterprise finale.... ;/
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So....how long until Voyager makes to the Delta Quadrant and meets up with Voyager?.....
...and I'd accept the nuStar Trek movie long before I'd ever accept the Enterprise finale.... ;/
We'll have destroyed ourselves, the rats evolved to sentient/sapient tool users, they'll have destroyed themselves, and the cockroaches will just be starting to argue over rat and human artifacts found elsewhere in the Solar System right about then...
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I guess it is only a matter of time before the Psychos find it.
Or the Clotharians.
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Pretty cool that we're heading out of the solar system. Thought it was kinda funny though yesterday to see a headline, "Voyager leaving space". I didn't know it had trans-dimensional capability. :)
Let me get this straight:
Voyager is 33 years old, designed on paper by a bunch of guys with slide rules, has 10 billion miles on the odometer, has never been in the shop for maintenance, and it's still working properly and phoning home regularly.
Meanwhile, I still have to re-sync the keyfobs for my 1999 Blazer every few months.
Shouldn't technology be moving forward?
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Shouldn't technology be moving forward?
Sometimes it moves in strange directions. ;)
Have you checked the solder on the battery hold down terminals of those fobs?
jim
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Along those same lines, Ascent - Commemorating Shuttle. (http://www.youtube.com/user/interbartolo#p/a/u/0/W2VygftZSCs) A program commemorating the 30 years of the Space Shuttle. 45:25 long, both film and high definition video (well, yeah, it's Youtube.)
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Ugh... all the stupid in the comments.
Did he even read the article? ???
;/ (facepalm)
They are RTG's and the voyagers were NOT the last. Cassini–Huygens has one.
RTG's generate power via temperature differences (Sebeck effect)
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Uh, we all know that the latest star trek movie isn't Canon in the sense that it's a different dimension.
DUUUUHHHHH
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Sometimes it moves in strange directions. ;)
Have you checked the solder on the battery hold down terminals of those fobs?
Checked over their guts pretty closely. Unfortunately, the receiver/interpreter circuitry seems to be buried in some other important stuff.
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.....where it will meet the denizens of a machine planet, be incorporated into one of their probes, and return to earth as "V'Ger" in the year 2279 only to be dealt with by the crafty and wily Captain James T. Kirk. [tinfoil] [tinfoil]
Nope, it'll become Nomad
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If it calls back, tell it I'm not here and take a message.
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Let me get this straight:
Voyager is 33 years old, designed on paper by a bunch of guys with slide rules, has 10 billion miles on the odometer, has never been in the shop for maintenance, and it's still working properly and phoning home regularly.
Meanwhile, I still have to re-sync the keyfobs for my 1999 Blazer every few months.
Shouldn't technology be moving forward?
How much did Voyager cost?
$865 million
How much did your 1999 Blazer cost?
MSRP: about $32,000
I think you could get similar results if you spent another $864 million on your car.
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So....how long until Voyager makes to the Delta Quadrant and meets up with Voyager?.....
I predict it's going to be speeding this way pretty soon, with a note saying,
"Keep your toys off my lawn!
--God."
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Let me get this straight:
Voyager is 33 years old, designed on paper by a bunch of guys with slide rules, has 10 billion miles on the odometer, has never been in the shop for maintenance, and it's still working properly and phoning home regularly.
Meanwhile, I still have to re-sync the keyfobs for my 1999 Blazer every few months.
Shouldn't technology be moving forward?
It is.
New Horizons on it's way to Pluto and hopefully some other KBO's Kupier Belt Objects, the mishmash of comets and other icy dwarf-planets/planetoids that caused Pluto's de-certification. New Horizons was a slap-chop quicky project in space probe terms to try and beat the atmospheric freeze-out that happens in the course of Pluto's "year" as it's elongated orbit pulls it further from the Sun.
I believe it's using a spare Cassini RTG and other OTS components/left-overs wherever possible, and I'm sure the imagery and data gathered is going to be several orders of magnitude better than Voyagers.
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I predict it's going to be speeding this way pretty soon, with a note saying,
"Keep your toys off my lawn!
--God."
Unless you're trying to mock human-centric religion, I don't see how that's funny.
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And yet I got quite the chuckle from it.
stay safe.
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Unless you're trying to mock human-centric religion, I don't see how that's funny.
I'm not sure I follow you. Do I want to?
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And yet I got quite the chuckle from it.
Same here.
That, or have it come back stamped "Return to Sender." ;)
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Same here.
That, or have it come back stamped "Return to Sender." ;)
I wouldn't be too upset over a simple "Return to Sender", but marked "Refused" might make me seriously consider things.
stay safe.
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And yet I got quite the chuckle from it.
Me too..... :lol:
...or maybe it'll be returned by an alien probe from an advanced civilization with a friendship offering of technological advances like reliable keyfobs for a 1999 Blazer.... =D
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Dreamer^^^
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New Horizons on it's way to Pluto and hopefully some other KBO's Kupier Belt Objects,
Where are we going?
Planet 10!
When?
Real soon!
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Where are we going?
Planet 10!
When?
Real soon!
Which plan?
Plan 9 from Outer Space!