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A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« on: March 02, 2017, 09:18:42 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/us/politics/supreme-court-north-carolina-sex-offenders-social-media.html?referer=https://t.co/oUl0qwm7Fy&_r=0

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A Supreme Court argument on Monday about whether North Carolina may bar registered sex offenders from using Facebook, Twitter and similar services turned into a discussion of how thoroughly social media have transformed American civic discourse.
And this is about registered sex offenders, not necessarily all pedophiles or rapists 
Some of the quotes mentioned indicate some of the SC Justices see it as a free speech issue. 
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Justice Anthony M. Kennedy said that social media sites had become, and in some ways had surpassed, the public square as a place for discussion and debate.

“The sites that Justice Kagan has described and their utility and the extent of their coverage are greater than the communication you could have ever had, even in the paradigm of public square,” Justice Kennedy said.

Tom Gresham tweeted this article out wondering if a free speech ruling could be used to stop twitter and Facebook from banning gun related stuff.  Or many of the other things they ban people for now that I think about it.  I guess it depends on how the ruling goes. 
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 10:38:35 AM »
If I have a right to publish on Facebook and Twitter, don't I also have a right to have my every whim printed by the New York Times, and published by Oxford University Press, etc? Will peer-reviewed journals have to publish every paper they receive?
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 11:09:57 AM »
Tom Gresham tweeted this article out wondering if a free speech ruling could be used to stop twitter and Facebook from banning gun related stuff.  Or many of the other things they ban people for now that I think about it.  I guess it depends on how the ruling goes.

He's going at that wrong. Facebook doesn't have any obligation to give users any free speech protections as a private company. The question is can a government entity as part of criminal punishment impose restrictions on free speech. I think they can to an extent. In this case I'm not really sure without knowing more about if the punishment fits the crime. I've become skeptical of sex offender laws with many examples I've seen of their use in many cases that don't really seem appropriate.

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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 10:44:13 PM »
the founding fathers never envisioned the internet

free speech protections apply solely to crying in the town square, and using quill and paper.
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2017, 02:24:39 AM »
the founding fathers never envisioned the internet

free speech protections apply solely to crying in the town square, and using quill and paper.

Utter radical bullshat.
The manual/mechanical printing press was widely used in that time period, 1st Amendment included Freedom of the press, which obviously meant the printing press so in addition to your limitations manual/mechanical printing presses are also covered.
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2017, 10:40:06 AM »
Utter radical bullshat.
The manual/mechanical printing press was widely used in that time period, 1st Amendment included Freedom of the press, which obviously meant the printing press so in addition to your limitations manual/mechanical printing presses are also covered.
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2017, 11:33:07 AM »
As long as they are hand-cranked.... ;)

Speaking of which, who else here is old enough to remember cranking the mimeograph back in elementary/junior/high school? 
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2017, 11:41:27 AM »
Speaking of which, who else here is old enough to remember cranking the mimeograph back in elementary/junior/high school? 

And the smell of the purple ink ??  Ahhhhhhhhhhh.....  Everyone volunteered for that job..
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2017, 11:40:21 PM »
Speaking of which, who else here is old enough to remember cranking the mimeograph back in elementary/junior/high school?

That would be me.
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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 11:50:56 PM »
That would be me.

Ditto :D

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Re: A Constitutional Right to Facebook and Twitter?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2017, 09:27:06 PM »
Speaking of which, who else here is old enough to remember cranking the mimeograph back in elementary/junior/high school?  

 :old: (Raises hand)

I also remember typing orders on mimeograph stencils when I was a company clerk in the Army.
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