Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: just Warren on February 05, 2018, 06:46:38 PM
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You don't need tax-funded, government supplied cops. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5346699/First-private-police-force-caught-400-criminals.html)
Services such as this plus insurance investigators, private investigators, bounty hunters and an armed, can-do populace will take care of any security or investigative needs a society might need.
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Private police forces are nothing new in the U.S. Railroads have had them for decades.
http://www.therailroadpolice.com/
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/564aaf85e4b082c51d83be79/t/58e1a0c72e69cfd46ac584d0/1491181769153/?format=1000w)
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Private police forces are nothing new in the U.S. Railroads have had them for decades.
http://www.therailroadpolice.com/
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/564aaf85e4b082c51d83be79/t/58e1a0c72e69cfd46ac584d0/1491181769153/?format=1000w)
AMTRAK has a police force. Considering Amtrak's status, though, I don't know whether or not to classify them as government.
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On one hand I'm all for private sector innovation. On the other I'm leery of "policing for profit" operations.
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But critics fear the rise of private policing could lead to a two-tier system where only the wealthy get protection from criminals.
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Yeah, that is what happens when you let the Govt take away your right to bear arms, self defense, and defense of property.
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You don't need tax-funded, government supplied cops. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5346699/First-private-police-force-caught-400-criminals.html)
Services such as this plus insurance investigators, private investigators, bounty hunters and an armed, can-do populace will take care of any security or investigative needs a society might need.
I believe if you remove items like police and regulators, you are going to have the spend the same amount of money (if not more) expanding the court system to allow for all the new lawsuits to be processed in a timely manor.
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Private police forces are nothing new in the U.S. Railroads have had them for decades.
http://www.therailroadpolice.com/
Note: Completely useless information upcoming:
I've only seen RR cops twice in my life. The most recent they were sitting in their car between the tracks and a building. Don't know why.
The first time there were two of them looking intently at the device that lowers the arm to block the track, and then one of them turned and used his arm as a pointer as if something came from that-a-way. They both eyeballed me as I drove past, which was fair as I was doing the same to them.
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Racking my brain I cannot recall a single TV series based around RR cops. Not that Hollywood would do it right but they don't seem to have ever tried.
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I believe if you remove items like police and regulators, you are going to have the spend the same amount of money (if not more) expanding the court system to allow for all the new lawsuits to be processed in a timely manor.
There's only one way to find out!
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On one hand I'm all for private sector innovation. On the other I'm leery of "policing for profit" operations.
But post conviction, the defendant can be incarcerated in a for profit jail. Corrections Corporation of America.
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But post conviction, the defendant can be incarcerated in a for profit jail. Corrections Corporation of America.
Many states are already using that model. Ask Pennsylvania how it worked out with reformatories ...
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But post conviction, the defendant can be incarcerated in a for profit jail. Corrections Corporation of America.
Separate topic. I don't like the concept of "For profit" jails either. Way too much added opportunity for corruption.
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On one hand I'm all for private sector innovation. On the other I'm leery of "policing for profit" operations.
For sure. Imagine a "private" equivalent of the RICO Act.
And part of a governmental compensation package for the commissioned police officer is the prospect of a reasonably generous retirement allotment. Yes, it's only $x once a month every month, but it's also $y once a month every month in your old age and dotage.
Terry
REF (This article does not address RICO abuses):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act#Application_of_RICO_laws
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I believe if you remove items like police and regulators, you are going to have the spend the same amount of money (if not more) expanding the court system to allow for all the new lawsuits to be processed in a timely manor.
My very favorite Brit-com.
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My very favorite Brit-com.
...any my common grammar mistake. Timely manner is what I meant. =)
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Well now you're under arrest and will be sent off to a privately run grammar jail.
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Well, now you're under arrest and will be sent off to a privately-run grammar jail.
=D
Brad
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Well now you're under arrest and will be sent off to a privately run grammar jail.
Spellcheck is your worst enema.
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I'm a little fuzzy on the concept. How do private police enforce public laws? From where do the police derive their authority?
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I'm a little fuzzy on the concept. How do private police enforce public laws? From where do the police derive their authority?
I see it like the traffic cameras. You are charged a civil penalty for speeding or running a red light but it doesn't go on your driving record.
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I see it like the traffic cameras. You are charged a civil penalty for speeding or running a red light but it doesn't go on your driving record.
So with private police, if you rob a bank and get caught you pay a fine but you don't go to prison and it doesn't make you a felon (as in prohibited person)? Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all.
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So with private police, if you rob a bank and get caught you pay a fine but you don't go to prison and it doesn't make you a felon (as in prohibited person)? Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all.
Pretty much, unless you have a system to hold the private police accountable to enforce the laws, courts still prosecute. Then you will need to government employee regulators to hold the private police to those standards.
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I'm a little fuzzy on the concept. How do private police enforce public laws? From where do the police derive their authority?
Same place public cops do. They have guns.
They grab you and drag you in front of a judge for trial. If you refuse, they shoot you.
(Only sorta kidding)
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Once a Government or State cannot protect people and property it ceases to have a reason to exist. Why should you continue to pay taxes to them ???
I would just pay the private policeman to keep the taxman away from my door, yanowatimeen?