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NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« on: September 09, 2011, 12:00:50 PM »
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/exclusive-elaborate-new-york-city-post-911-security/


Say what?

WTF are 1000 "anti-terror" cops going to do during a terrorist attack?  Don't these people know that terrorist attacks are performed by terrorists?  And that terrorists operate in relatively small groups, utilizing subterfuge and stealth until they rapidly strike a high value asset with little or no warning?

What are you going to do with 1000 cops with tanks and machine guns, for a terrorist attack?

Aside from "anti-terrorizing" your own population?


This is a projection of force that is meaningless for its publicized purpose.  And it is deliberately engineered to have a chilling effect on anti-Statist political efforts.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 12:38:58 PM »
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 01:05:47 PM »
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What are you going to do with 1000 cops with tanks and machine guns, for a terrorist attack?
Collect tons of state and federal money for having such specialized (and generally useless) cops. Though I suspect that a lot of these guys aren't trigger-pullers, but intel-collectors. From this and other articles it looks like the NYPD's trying to go from police department to intelligence agency.

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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 02:33:49 PM »
I would bet that the 'tanks' are the same wheeled armored personnel carriers or armored trucks used by SWAT to enter a hot zone, and the 'machine guns' are AR15/H&K MP5/Ruger Mini-14 that they have been using for years.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 03:09:53 PM »
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/exclusive-elaborate-new-york-city-post-911-security/


Say what?

WTF are 1000 "anti-terror" cops going to do during a terrorist attack?  Don't these people know that terrorist attacks are performed by terrorists?  And that terrorists operate in relatively small groups, utilizing subterfuge and stealth until they rapidly strike a high value asset with little or no warning?
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I shall inform law enforcement post-haste of this developement.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 03:13:01 PM »
I shall inform law enforcement post-haste of this developement.

I sense snark.

Maybe Israel faces mob-style terrorist attacks more akin to a war zone.

But NY doesn't.

When your police department is hard to tell apart from soldiers... something is terribly wrong with either your police department, or your neighbors.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 03:14:17 PM »
Well, they'll be prepared for the next 'killdozer' incident when they push another citizen too far, though I'll be rooting for said 'killdozer' guy.

More likely they will be ready for riots when the welfare checks stop coming, in which case I'll be rooting for the police.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 03:19:36 PM »
Collect tons of state and federal money for having such specialized (and generally useless) cops. Though I suspect that a lot of these guys aren't trigger-pullers, but intel-collectors. From this and other articles it looks like the NYPD's trying to go from police department to intelligence agency.

Trying?  They have.  NYPD has police officers working oversees in terrorism hotspots. 
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 04:14:05 PM »
I'll take Standing Army for $500.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 04:18:16 PM »
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WTF are 1000 "anti-terror" cops going to do during a terrorist attack?

The bigger question is what are they going to be doing the rest of the time  ???

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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 05:05:28 PM »
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The bigger question is what are they going to be doing the rest of the time 
Tiddleywinks, Euchre, or harassment of common citizens walking their dog, just for fun?

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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2011, 05:32:39 PM »
Just another reason why having the Federal Govt throwing money around for all sorts of things is screwing up a lot of stuff in this country. 
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2011, 05:38:16 PM »
any outrage from new york  or at least a state bordering new york?  we've heard from international and the folks 1000 miles away
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2011, 06:19:25 PM »
New Yorkers had their sense of outrage beaten out of them by police decades ago.

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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2011, 07:44:49 PM »
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New Yorkers had their sense of outrage beaten plungered out of them by police decades ago.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2011, 07:46:44 PM »
New Yorkers had their sense of outrage beaten out of them by police decades ago.

On a radio news report one NYC citizen quiped that he believed these security procedures should be in effect all the time, not just for situations like this....... :facepalm:
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2011, 07:55:47 PM »
kinda a states right thing?  except when the folk in other parts of the country don't like what they want in new york?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2011, 10:01:32 PM »
kinda a states right thing?  except when the folk in other parts of the country don't like what they want in new york?

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There are some things "states rights" don't cover.  Whether or not this is a violation of the intent of the bill of rights we can discuss, but to just waive a hand and say "you guys don't live there" is asinine.

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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2011, 10:14:31 PM »
You don't need to be a NY resident to be outraged, or concerned. (I was born there, but have been gone a long time.)

I am also a citizen of the United States, and need to watch and care what happens elsewhere.

If one is vigilant, and watches what happens elsewhere, one can learn, understand, and prepare in their own area.

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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2011, 10:55:22 PM »
It's all "Deadliest Warrior" stuff now, isn't it?
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2011, 03:39:25 PM »
so the folks in the city are less informed than the folks in flyover country?  about their own city? its needs/demands?  and should seek guidance/permission from folk elsewhere?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2011, 03:42:31 PM »
so the folks in the city are less informed than the folks in flyover country?  about their own city? its needs/demands?  and should seek guidance/permission from folk elsewhere?

"Flyover country"?
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2011, 04:06:17 PM »
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"Flyover country"?
The area between the two coasts where all of the gun-toting, bible thumping, cousin humping, toothless rednecks live.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2011, 04:08:34 PM »
The area between the two coasts where all of the gun-toting, bible thumping, cousin humping, toothless rednecks live.

I'm quite aware of what it means. I was happy up until know not to know anybody who uses the term non-ironically.
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Re: NYPD: 1000 "anti-terror" cops with tanks and weapons
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2011, 04:22:17 PM »
so the folks in the city are less informed than the folks in flyover country?  about their own city? its needs/demands?  and should seek guidance/permission from folk elsewhere?

If they honestly believe their civilian police force should morph into a para-military intel orginization? Then yes, they are uninformed about their city.