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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2011, 06:20:24 PM »
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2011, 07:07:30 PM »
You're incredible, Harold. How do you do these things?

"Geraldine" looks like a Westernized version of the silver Thai deity on the left. The shapes that look like a penis must be part of the lotus blossoms she's holding (maybe flowers upside down?).

Thank you.

Fistful, I've looked for people involved with the movie, but can't find anyone alive who might have had something to do with props. It was 44 years ago when the movie was released.

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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2011, 07:42:29 PM »
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2011, 07:58:23 PM »
well, taking chinese and indian art history in the 80s was a help

that plus goggle image searching and looking a pages of images

in Buddhist art the hand positions are iconic so i looked for a position match

It could have been a trade copy in plastic of an ivory original design

the original might have lost the point from the headpiece in the prop department


standing thai female deity
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2011, 08:47:12 PM »
Thanks again, Harold. I'm just amazed that you're able to pull up links or images so quickly on all sorts of topics on this forum.

This is definitely on the right track. The gown on the Thai deity shows her waist, and curves over her hips on either side as it goes to the back. That would match the back on the gown on Geraldine. The front of the gown on the deity goes between the breasts, which the gown on Geraldine could be doing (could). Then there's the high collar (or whatever that style is called). The hand position is just about 100%. The face on Geraldine looks more western, but that could be a function of the artist or company that made it.

The gown on Geraldine doesn't look like it goes below her groin in front, but in photos that I have of the base, it's clear that it's a full-length gown with splits on the side.

I'm going to use this or another deity from the link you just provided, and modify it to more closely match Geraldine.

If nothing else, Fistful should be happy. ;)

Thanks again.
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2011, 09:35:24 PM »
"Geraldine"?  She doesn't look anything like Flip Wilson.  (the nose is right, but the hair and the hips are all wrong)
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2011, 10:30:10 PM »
well, the one i found was a bronze where as geraldine is an ivory

there would be detail differences in subtractionist vs additive sculpture

i'm still curious to find out exactly whom the thai figure is

She might be Ayutthaya period

here is her sister
http://www.boranasianart.com/items/832476/item832476store.html

According to Buddhist tradition, Tara was born from the compassionate tears of the bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara. It is said that he wept as he looked upon the suffering of the world, and his tears formed a lake from which a lotus emerged. When the lotus opened, the goddess Tara was revealed. Tara is the goddess of universal compassion and represents virtuous and enlightened action. She is also said to bring about longevity, protect earthly travel, and guard her followers on their spiritual journey to enlightenment.

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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2011, 10:37:42 PM »
I don't think Geraldine is ivory. I think it's some material painted to look like it has a patina, or maybe it's a real patina.
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2011, 10:42:36 PM »
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2011, 11:06:52 PM »
Lots of nekkidness. ;)

I really think you nailed it with the first Thai deity. That gives me everything I need to give the sculptor for reference.

I have to modify some things to make the blade fit, such as the width of the waist, the thickness front to back of the legs, etc. I even have to do something with the neck so the blade can slide up that far. So, Geraldine won't be an exact replica, but extremely close.
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2011, 11:31:00 PM »
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I was kidding you about this thread, and about the letters to the editor, too. Good luck with the project. At least it gives you something to do, besides reading hippy-lit.  =)
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2011, 11:55:51 PM »
"My statue only has two arms, Mike."

In Hindu religion, the number of arms on many of the gods isn't fixed.

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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2011, 01:12:05 AM »
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In Hindu religion, the number of arms on many of the gods isn't fixed.

You mean they're removable and attachable? Like Transformers? That would come in handy for a lot of projects around the house. ;)
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2011, 08:33:00 AM »
they are like mighty morphing power strangers

Tara has many forms

The most widely known forms of Tārā are:
Green Tārā, known as the Buddha of enlightened activity
White Tārā, also known for compassion, long life, healing and serenity; also known as The Wish-fulfilling Wheel, or Cintachakra
Red Tārā, of fierce aspect associated with magnetizing all good things
Black Tārā, associated with power
Yellow Tārā, associated with wealth and prosperity
Blue Tārā, associated with transmutation of anger
Cittamani Tārā, a form of Tārā widely practiced at the level of Highest Yoga Tantra in the Gelug School of Tibetan Buddhism, portrayed as green and often conflated with Green Tārā
Khadiravani Tārā (Tārā of the acacia forest), who appeared to Nagarjuna in the Khadiravani forest of South India and who is sometimes referred to as the "22nd Tārā."


one tara (white) provides protection from snakes

image googling "tara white snake" will find you another tarra white,
who seems like a good model for this endeavor, but is rather NSFW

Tarra White (born on 19 November 1987 in Ostrava, Czechoslovakia, as Martina Mrakviová) is an award-winning Czech pornographic actress.
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2011, 10:33:46 AM »
Well, that was entertaining. :)
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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2011, 12:13:54 PM »
yeah, so i was looking at


and i was wondering about the "is holding two lotus blossoms in her hands"

they don't look like the typical lotus blossoms in her hands
http://www.trocadero.com/ancienteyes/items/1079064/en1store.html
in fact it really looks like she is holding a snake

hence my "tara white snake" image search being spelling corrected by google (thanks) to tarra whitesnake
which yielded pages of hard porn

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Re: Does this statuette look familiar?
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2011, 12:33:35 PM »
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