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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2013, 02:34:20 PM »
Glad I don't have a Twitter account, then.

Because I'd do more than "frown upon" his response...
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2013, 02:46:24 PM »
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2013, 03:22:11 PM »
Who will be the first on the floor of the House or Senate wearing a baseball cap to protest this violence?  ;)


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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2013, 05:44:56 PM »
Teenagers have been going on killing sprees for a long time (read about Charles Starkweather-1957).

Since I know humans of all varieties commit horrible crimes, my upset is reserved on behalf of the victim.
He did nothing to deserve that.  :mad:
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2013, 06:48:22 PM »
Teenagers have been going on killing sprees for a long time (read about Charles Starkweather-1957).

Since I know humans of all varieties commit horrible crimes, my upset is reserved on behalf of the victim.
He did nothing to deserve that.  :mad:

Compassion for the victims and their families is good but it's not enough.  My upset is over political, justice, and legal systems that focus on some very small, relatively, amount of violence for political reasons and downplay or ignore much greater violence - again, for political reasons - thereby allowing there to be hundreds or thousands of other victims beyond this one or any one victim.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/260-school-children-killed-chicago-3-years-where-are-tears-them

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/chicago-shootings-6-kille_n_3453390.html


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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2013, 10:08:19 PM »
And now we have this.

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/elderly-man-dies-after-being-attacked-outside-ice-arena/-/101214/21574858/-/9flm7iz/-/index.html


I am thinking this was a robbery or carjacking gone wrong. At least there are surveillance photos of the "suspects". And in this town, Spokane, people who are any color but white, stand out like a sore thumb.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd ....... just to keep the theme going;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/22/dhs-employee-spends-spare-time-promoting-race-war-against-whites/

What in the name of baby Xenu is going on these days?!?

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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2013, 11:03:00 PM »
All I can say is keep your guard up.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2013, 11:28:32 PM »
I am thinking this was a robbery or carjacking gone wrong. At least there are surveillance photos of the "suspects". And in this town, Spokane, people who are any color but white, stand out like a sore thumb.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd ....... just to keep the theme going;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/22/dhs-employee-spends-spare-time-promoting-race-war-against-whites/

What in the name of baby Xenu is going on these days?!?

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Why do you say carjacking gone wrong?  I don't see anything in the photos or the story to indicate anything other than what the story says:

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"It does appear random. He was in the parking lot, it appears he was assaulted in the parking lot and there was no indication that he would have known these people prior to the assault," Spokane Police Major Crimes Detective Lieutenant Mark Griffiths said.

Edit: Carjackings and robberies don't go wrong.  They start wrong.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2013, 11:42:22 PM »
I guess it depends on which end of the carjacking, robbery, assault you are on whether or not it goes right. If the perp gets shot and dies on the spot, that would also be considered as going right, at least by me, and maybe some others.

As far as the other "speculation", it makes sense, to me.

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He had just arrived in his car to play pool with a female friend. A witness said she saw two young men run away from Belton's car. She found him by his vehicle badly beaten.

http://www.krem.com/news/Major-Crimes-investigating-assault-outside-Eagles-Ice-Arena-220620071.html

The police are calling it random, at this point. A friend of the deceased stated it was a robbery, who really knows, other than the 2 who are in hiding.

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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2013, 12:28:39 AM »
They beat him and left him for dead.  Just because they took the wallet (assuming they did since we don't seem to know) of the man that they beat to death does not change this from a cold blooded and random murder into a robbery.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2013, 12:30:03 AM »
They beat him and left him for dead.  Just because they took the wallet (assuming they did since we don't seem to know) of the man that they beat to death does not change this from a cold blooded and random murder into a robbery.


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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2013, 01:02:52 AM »
I am thinking this was a robbery or carjacking gone wrong. At least there are surveillance photos of the "suspects". And in this town, Spokane, people who are any color but white, stand out like a sore thumb.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd ....... just to keep the theme going;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/22/dhs-employee-spends-spare-time-promoting-race-war-against-whites/

What in the name of baby Xenu is going on these days?!?

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Sometimes I think "they"* want a race war of some kind. Gen up a new crisis that can't be allowed to go to waste.


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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2013, 09:30:45 AM »
All I can say is keep your guard up.

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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2013, 10:23:22 AM »
I'm now watching my neighbor's Angus cows very closely.  =|

I take it your neighbor doesn't raise Red Angus!?!?  ;)    :P



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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2013, 11:41:20 AM »
One 16 year old has been arrested and charged with murder and robbery, he will probably turn on the other one soon, I hope.


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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2013, 12:30:32 PM »
All I can say is keep your guard up.

Goes without saying.  Especially in our neighborhood.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2013, 12:38:46 PM »
WRONG!


Jesse jackson tweeted that this sort of violence is "frowned upon"

Not even joking

So, like ... what sorts of violence are NOT "frowned upon" by the good Reverend Jackson?
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2013, 12:07:16 PM »
In honor of Reverend King's speech, let me just say that I am, and I'm sure we are, judging these boys not on the color of their skin but on the content (or lack thereof) of their character.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2013, 12:20:17 PM »
The DA insists race wasn't a factor:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/24/race-not-factor-in-australian-player-oklahoma-murder-da-says/

Hmm... so Zimmerman killing Trayvon was racially motivated if Zimmerman had ever so much as looked cross-eyed at a black person, but this wasn't, despite one of the killers bragging just days before about knocking out 5 white people since the Zimmerman trial, and actively encouraging hate of whites.

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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2013, 02:30:00 PM »
It's a black thing.  You wouldn't understand.

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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2013, 02:51:31 PM »
The DA insists race wasn't a factor:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/24/race-not-factor-in-australian-player-oklahoma-murder-da-says/

Hmm... so Zimmerman killing Trayvon was racially motivated if Zimmerman had ever so much as looked cross-eyed at a black person, but this wasn't, despite one of the killers bragging just days before about knocking out 5 white people since the Zimmerman trial, and actively encouraging hate of whites.


I seem to remember Zimmerman's prosecutor saying the same thing. The double standard you're looking for seems to be in the establishment press, rather than in the courts.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2013, 03:48:05 PM »
As far as the other "speculation", it makes sense, to me.

http://www.krem.com/news/Major-Crimes-investigating-assault-outside-Eagles-Ice-Arena-220620071.html

The police are calling it random, at this point. A friend of the deceased stated it was a robbery, who really knows, other than the 2 who are in hiding.

Based on the race baiters' theory, the Treyvon Martin shooting was "random," too ... in that the two protagonists were not previously acquainted, and the shooter "just happened" to see the "kid" and decided to ambush him.

On this other case, it has now been reported that the assailants beat the guy with flashlights. I'm sure that would be something akin to 4-cell or 5-cell Maglights, which can be formidable weapons ESPECIALLY against a senior citizen. The police can call it random, and it probably was, but that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't racial. That can't be known with any degree of certainty whatsoever until the perps are captured and interrogated, and may not be known even then. If race as a motive would be an exacerbating factor in their charging and sentencing, they'd have to be pretty foolish to admit they picked him because he was white, or even that they wouldn't have attacked him if he had been black.
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Re: Teens Kill Student "For the Fun of It"
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2013, 03:56:25 PM »
I'm now watching my neighbor's Angus cows very closely.  =|

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