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Title: Computer keyboards
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 03, 2017, 10:48:47 AM
Sitting at my desktop computer at a time when the sun hits the keyboard, I see a lot of fuzz and lint clinging to the sides of the keys. A light pass with a soft-bristle brush doesn't take it off. I've read that keyboards can be washed, if allowed to dry completely before being put back into service. Is this correct? Can I safely wash my keyboard? If so, how long do I have to let it dry before I can use it again?
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Ben on October 03, 2017, 10:52:05 AM
Have you tried canned air? That's all I use to keep my keyboard clean. Does fine getting donut crumbs out from between the keys.  =D
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: AJ Dual on October 03, 2017, 11:03:12 AM
The struggle is real. The other good way to see how dirty your KB really is, is to take a photo of it with your phone using the flash.

Canned air will help but a lot of that dust will stick.

And yes, many keyboards can be washed out, although some can't. And it's difficult to know which.

Paper towels with some Windex, and using a butter knife or a credit card as a blade to push it down the rows between keys helps a bit.

KB's are so cheap now, unless you've bought some uber-expensive microswitch KB, a lit LED one, or an IBM model M that's now worth $150+ as a collector's item with a PS-2 plug running into a USB adapter, just buying a new one and pitching it is often easier.

Here at work at least, I pitch my KB every two years.


Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Ben on October 03, 2017, 11:05:58 AM
Paper towels with some Windex, and using a butter knife or a credit card as a blade to push it down the rows between keys helps a bit.

I did do that quite a bit at work, because that keyboard often got visible grime on the keys. Then use the canned air to get the bits of paper towel out from between the keys. :)
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: K Frame on October 03, 2017, 11:20:43 AM
The newer circuit printed membrane keyboards, which are almost universal these days, really shouldn't be gotten wet. Liquids can damage the circuit printing, rendering the keyboard functionally useless. Water isn't as bad as acidic drinks, but it can still cause damage.

What I've done in the past is remove all of the keys, wash them, then reassemble the keyboard once they're thoroughly dry.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: zxcvbob on October 03, 2017, 11:25:06 AM
If you use water or a water-based cleaner, rinse afterward with distilled water.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Scout26 on October 03, 2017, 11:26:29 AM
On some keyboards you can pop the key tops off and then lick the donut crumbs out.   :P   I used annoy a Cow-orker by popping the key tops off and re-arranging the letters.  He was a two-finger typist and had to look at the keys to type (and he never looked at his screen, so lots of typos.)  You'd get the occasional e-mail from him that read:

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Usjdg,

Jalajsd asodh ogsalnd sa tao ajsigao aosd obanwn wogaosdi wingao aongoab sa soag.   Rohwn asdg hto asaoa f ghona songanovn.

Tosk


Was quite hilarious.


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Paul,

Got your email.  Did you have a stroke ??

-Amy


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: TommyGunn on October 03, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
Deleted.. ???    :facepalm:.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: lee n. field on October 03, 2017, 11:41:27 AM
Sitting at my desktop computer at a time when the sun hits the keyboard, I see a lot of fuzz and lint clinging to the sides of the keys. A light pass with a soft-bristle brush doesn't take it off. I've read that keyboards can be washed, if allowed to dry completely before being put back into service. Is this correct? Can I safely wash my keyboard? If so, how long do I have to let it dry before I can use it again?

Those times when I have, I've popped the keycaps off and washed them separately.

MS Ergo keyboards when I've used them were a cootie magnet -- euuuu.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: TechMan on October 03, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
When I worked in the VAX lab at school, we had to clean the 120+ key keyboards.  We would use this (https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Static-Motherboard-Circuit-Extractor-Puller/dp/B00OXMB410/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_236_lp_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SQHYZPC81FV43FWQ4XGZ) to remove the individual keys and soak them in a diluted mix of Fantastic cleaner and water.  Be careful of your larger keys (alt, ctrl, space bar, tab, etc.) as most of those keys have some type of metal spring that is attached to them.

ETA:  The tool helps to have some great office fun.  One of my co-workers was on vacation, so I sat down are removed all the letter keys, number keys and function keys from his keyboard and left them in a baggie with a note that said "Welcome back from vacation, here is your first task."  :lol: 
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: HeroHog on October 03, 2017, 12:18:12 PM
Be careful popping off the keys! Some will launch springs and clips into the ether never to be seen again and others will NOT want to go back on no matter how much you pound them with a 2lb ball peen hammer!
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 03, 2017, 02:02:21 PM

KB's are so cheap now, unless you've bought some uber-expensive microswitch KB, a lit LED one, or an IBM model M that's now worth $150+ as a collector's item with a PS-2 plug running into a USB adapter, just buying a new one and pitching it is often easier.


Story iof my life. I just took a dozen of those IBM keyboards to the landfill last week. Didn't know anybody wanted them.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Ben on October 03, 2017, 02:10:03 PM
Story iof my life. I just took a dozen of those IBM keyboards to the landfill last week. Didn't know anybody wanted them.


AAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love those keyboards.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: zxcvbob on October 03, 2017, 02:10:36 PM
I'm using an old IBM keyboard right now, with a PS2 to USB adapter.  I rescue them from the dumpster whenever I can.  I can't find a modern keyboard that I like -- too squishy and not enough clicky.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: RevDisk on October 03, 2017, 02:15:18 PM

Hold at a 120 degree angle (ie slightly more than perpendicular to desk) and ram it into the desk ten times or so. Flip and repeat.

Then blow it out with compressed air. I use the plant 300KW compressor (obviously not full output) to clean mine out. Replace every two or three years, or if it gets nasty. Clean with clorox wipes every so often.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: MillCreek on October 03, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
Hold at a 120 degree angle (ie slightly more than perpendicular to desk) and ram it into the desk ten times or so. Flip and repeat.

Then blow it out with compressed air. I use the plant 300KW compressor (obviously not full output) to clean mine out. Replace every two or three years, or if it gets nasty. Clean with clorox wipes every so often.

I think you should use the compressor at full power, for Science. Please report back.  I wonder if it would peel the letter overlays right off the keys.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: bedlamite on October 03, 2017, 07:06:32 PM
SealSbield. Wash it in the dishwasher.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: K Frame on October 03, 2017, 07:27:51 PM
Story iof my life. I just took a dozen of those IBM keyboards to the landfill last week. Didn't know anybody wanted them.

YOU BASTARD!!!
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 03, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
I'M SORRY!

Mea culpa, mea culpa.



Found a couple hiding in a remote corner of the garage. Ben, Mike, they're yours if you want to pay shipping.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Ben on October 03, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
I'M SORRY!

Mea culpa, mea culpa.



Found a couple hiding in a remote corner of the garage. Ben, Mike, they're yours if you want to pay shipping.

Hawkmoon, I very much appreciate the offer, but you should really consider selling them first. Here's what they go for on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00F4FHY64/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 03, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
Hawkmoon, I very much appreciate the offer, but you should really consider selling them first. Here's what they go for on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00F4FHY64/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all



I'm glad I was sitting down when I clicked that link ... stand by, gotta go take my heart meds.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: HeroHog on October 03, 2017, 08:31:19 PM
I used to have an old IBM PS/2 Clickey keyboard and I LOVED it! Heavy, easy to pop the caps off and clean and great tactile feel. I got read of it when I started working in a cube farm and the clicking was driving my mates nuts.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 03, 2017, 08:43:19 PM
The click is what makes them so great. There's no question that my typing has gotten worse since I stopped using the IBM keyboards, but even if I could find the right PS/2-to-USB adapter (I've tried three, and none work), I don't have room for it on my current desk. So I'm stuck using whatever Dell sends me with their computers.
Title: Re:
Post by: K Frame on October 03, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Thanks for the offer, but I agree with Ben. Sell them. I don't mind the new style keyboards at all and in fact I can fly on the one I have office computer. The one at home is okay as well.

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Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: zxcvbob on October 03, 2017, 11:39:01 PM
I like the old loud clicky keyboards when I'm stuck on a conference call with management on a service call.  They can hear me working the problem while I'm pretending to be listening to them.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: RevDisk on October 04, 2017, 08:23:44 AM

Concur, sell them. You'll get a minimum of $100 per, likely around $150. Especially if you clean them up nicely and test them. PS2 to USB dongles are cheap. Buy one and test all of them.


I think you should use the compressor at full power, for Science. Please report back.  I wonder if it would peel the letter overlays right off the keys.

Yeah, no. One of our maint techs had an adapter come loose and got his arm sandblasted to the point of going to the hospital. With plain dust. This stuff drives a dozen major pieces of equipment and dozens of small handheld units at any given time. The handheld feeds alone are plenty overkill as is and will leave a PC spotless.

The answer, btw, for science, is that the keys come off before the lettering comes off.
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: K Frame on October 04, 2017, 08:26:15 AM
I like the old loud clicky keyboards when I'm stuck on a conference call with management on a service call.  They can hear me working the problem while I'm pretending to be listening to them.

You have to be careful about that. Tetris has some pretty distinctive clicking patterns.

:rofl:
Title: Re: Computer keyboards
Post by: MechAg94 on October 04, 2017, 08:43:14 AM
I used the Microsoft ergonomic keyboard for years, but the cheap, compact keyboards work best for me now.  I don't want a bunch of fancy buttons or other crap and I don't need everything wireless.