Benghazi - The missing 17 minutes memo/smoking gun.

[Scout26]

Had this been a R president, impeachment proceedings would have already begun.

Do note that it was an independent group that got the memo from a FOIA request, not any of the so-called "Professional News Orgs".


http://www.ijreview.com/2014/05/134524-oreilly-dishonest-media-ignoring-new-benghazi-bombshell-protect-obama/

[Monkeyleg]

I think most of us here have been almost positive since September 12, 2012 that the White House was lying.

If the media doesn't mention it, then it doesn't exist. Goebbels would be proud.

[Scout26]

Meanwhile the former J-2 of AFRICOM testifies that:

"The point is we should have tried," Lovell told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, in his opening statement. "As another saying goes -- always move to the sound of the guns."

THIS.

*expletive deleted*.

THIS.

RIGHT.

HERE.


As anyone who's ever served will tell you, one of the first things you learn/are taught/have pounded into you is:  "When in doubt, march to the sound of the guns."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/01/military-official-should-have-tried-to-help-americans-during-benghazi-attack/

Can we start impeachment hearings yet?

We have the murder of 4 Americans, we have a failure to respond and we have a deliberate cover-up.  "What did the President know and when did he know it?"

I guess Hillary failed that 3am phone call test also:

He later said the military "could have made a response of some sort." Lovell, who was stationed in Germany during the attack, made clear repeatedly that the military was waiting for clearance from the State Department to intervene in Benghazi.

[MechAg94]

Obama failed the test also.  Where was he exactly?  An attack on our embassy should have had him involved also.

[SADShooter]

Obama failed the test also.  Where was he exactly?  An attack on our embassy should have had him involved also.

Needed his beauty sleep before flying to a 9/12 campaign stop in Vegas, IIRC.

[AJ Dual]

If Obama were a Republican, Benghazi would never have happened, because he'd have been impeached and convicted four or five times already for all the other stuff before Benghazi even happened.

[makattak]

If Obama were a Republican, Benghazi would never have happened, because he'd have been impeached and convicted four or five times already for all the other stuff before Benghazi even happened.

For instance,  going to war in Libya without even pretending to get congressional approval.

[Scout26]

Hard questions being asked, dodged and then the dodges destroyed.   Brett Baier is one of the very few pursuing this story.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3528551088001/tommy-vietor-ben-rhodes-e-mail-tells-us-nothing-new/#sp=show-clips

[Strings]

O'Reilly mentioned that "but everyone knows about racist remarks by an NBA owner"

I was wondering what the media has been trying to distract the sheep from...

[brimic]

Can we start impeachment hearings yet?

The correct thing to do would be to start building gallows and ordering rope. There are a lot of bodies that need to swing for this- litterally, not figuretively, if the federal government is to retain any legitimacy.

[makattak]

Hard questions being asked, dodged and then the dodges destroyed.   Brett Baier is one of the very few pursuing this story.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3528551088001/tommy-vietor-ben-rhodes-e-mail-tells-us-nothing-new/#sp=show-clips

And he continues the successful strategy for the Obama administration:

Delay, stall, stonewall, stall, stonewall some more, then say "This was a long time ago!"

EVERY scandal, this is what they've done. EVERY ONE.

And, with a compliant an accomplice of the press, it's has worked. Every single time. No where near enough people care that we had an ambassador, 2 SEALS, and a civil servant murdered because of the administration's incompetence and hubris. (Or that hundreds, if not thousands of Mexicans were murdered for the same reason. Or that conservatives are being targeted by the IRS. Or...)

THAT is the most damning thing about all of this.

[Ben]

And, with a compliant an accomplice of the press, it's has worked. Every single time. No where near enough people care that we had an ambassador, 2 SEALS, and a civil servant murdered because of the administration's incompetence and hubris. (Or that hundreds, if not thousands of Mexicans were murdered for the same reason. Or that conservatives are being targeted by the IRS. Or...)

THAT is the most damning thing about all of this.

To quote Tommy Vietor, "Dude, this was a long time ago..."


I reiterate. Benghazi is NOT a scandal. It is a crime. Scandals are reserved for "Bill and Monica" incidents, not deaths. Scandals are also reserved for having someone like Vietor, in the presidential circle, representing a US Presidential Administration by talking like a dope smoking college freshman. Dude.

[brimic]

To quote Tommy Vietor, "Dude, this was a long time ago..."


I reiterate. Benghazi is NOT a scandal. It is a crime. Scandals are reserved for "Bill and Monica" incidents, not deaths. Scandals are also reserved for having someone like Vietor, in the presidential circle, representing a US Presidential Administration by talking like a dope smoking college freshman. Dude.

Yes.
If Benghazi is a scandal, then Watergate was an offense on the same level as jaywalking.

[HankB]

Note that the GOP is utterly toothless when it comes to dealing with Obama & Company. A baseball pitcher was prosecuted (and acquitted at trial) for allegedly lying to Congress, but when it comes to Obama administration officials, harsh words are about the limit from the GOP.

Just as an example, here's an editorial that sums up the results of the 2012 contempt citation against Holder:  http://www.humanevents.com/2014/04/09/ag-holder-explodes-contempt-of-congress/

A few passages:

. . . Holder’s contempt citation has not mattered at all.  He’s still doing what he was put in the Justice Department to do: conceal documents, refuse to investigate Obama Administration scandals, and provide political fodder for the Democrats’ agenda . . .

. . . Everyone knows there was no endgame beyond that contempt citation; the rest of Obama Justice is not going to prosecute Holder for anything, any more than Holder is going to prosecute anyone over the IRS scandal . . .

Regular people who behave this way end up in jail . . .

[makattak]

Note that the GOP is utterly toothless when it comes to dealing with Obama & Company. A baseball pitcher was prosecuted (and acquitted at trial) for allegedly lying to Congress, but when it comes to Obama administration officials, harsh words are about the limit from the GOP.

Just as an example, here's an editorial that sums up the results of the 2012 contempt citation against Holder:  http://www.humanevents.com/2014/04/09/ag-holder-explodes-contempt-of-congress/

A few passages:

Regular people who behave this way end up in jail . . .

They are afraid hold the first black president accountable.

It really is that simple. It's all about race. ALL about race. Not even mostly.

[brimic]

They are afraid hold the first black president accountable.

It really is that simple. It's all about race. ALL about race. Not even mostly.

No. Its more that they don't care. Nobody gives a *expletive deleted*it about race anymore except racists who make their living off racism.
Dems and repubs play for the same team- leviathon. There are a few outlyers that don't, but they are on the fringe.
The last 6 years has absolutely proven beyond a doubt that the Rs are nothing more than cynical enablers to federal power grabs, before which they were the main architects.
The best Rs can offer is to stir the *expletive deleted* in order to keep voters engaged and believing in the process. As of yet, noone has done any prison time for the myriad of crimes committed by the current administration.
When we see people tried, let alone convicted for treason, I'll start to lose my cynicism- its a safe bet that won't happen.
Its getting really close to time to start withdrawing consent.

[TommyGunn]

Maybe the repukes are legitimatly afraid of who'll become prez if Obama is removed .....



Well, whatever, I agree the repubs have no real drive to deal effectively with Obama & company.
So, once more, we have "The Evil Party" and "The Stupid Party."
 

[SADShooter]

Indication this morning of a Special Committee, based on satisfaction of Boehner's desire for concrete evidence linking to the White House. This, combined with hard questions from non-Fox members of the WH press corps, suggest an increase in momentum. We'll see.

[KD5NRH]

This, combined with hard questions from non-Fox members of the WH press corps, suggest an increase in momentum. We'll see.

Heck, even HuffPo wasn't being as gentle as usual in the last couple of articles I glanced through over there.  The administration might be finding out the hard way that there are limits to how low even the yellowest journalists will sink.

[Scout26]

RUMINT has it that Rep Trey Gowdy R-SC will be chairing the select committee.  That sound you heardwas quite afew aholes simultaneously slamming shut in the administration.

[Angel Eyes]

Maybe the repukes are legitimatly afraid of who'll become prez if Obama is removed .....

The words "President Biden" would certainly send chills up my spine.

Well, whatever, I agree the repubs have no real drive to deal effectively with Obama & company.
So, once more, we have "The Evil Party" and "The Stupid Party."
 

From a political strategy standpoint, it would be more advantageous to weaken and shame the current administration such that any Democrat (Hillary?) running in 2016 would try to distance themselves from it as much as possible.  Actual impeachment may not be necessary.  It might even backfire.

[KD5NRH]

The words "President Biden" would certain send chills up my spine.

And just imagine if Biden got caught up in the mess too.  That's why the House is taking so much interest.

Another RINO would just make things worse.

[Monkeyleg]

The Republicans may be looking at it from the standpoint of payback. When one party has taken something to near-historic levels (Monica Lewinsky, for example), the other side exacts revenge when they take power. If the Republicans seem 2016 as theirs for the taking, they may be hesitant to risk that payback by going "too far" with Obama over an issue that they perceive the public as no longer being interested in.

It's a theory, like a zillion others.

[Waitone]

First pass FOIA response curiously omitted subject email.  Second go'round the email shows.

Why now?

My guess is the Clinton Mob strong armed Team Obama to get it out in the open long before her run for the presidency.

[Perd Hapley]

Heck, even HuffPo wasn't being as gentle as usual in the last couple of articles I glanced through over there.  The administration might be finding out the hard way that there are limits to how low even the yellowest journalists will sink.

That's raciss.