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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on September 24, 2017, 02:12:08 PM
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Developing story. Apparently most of the victims were elderly, including at least one person pistol whipped. Sounds almost like a home invasion in a church.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/multiple-people-shot-at-tennessee-church-police-say.html
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/multiple-people-shot-at-tennessee-church-police-say.html
They're saying it will be investigated as a black-on-white hate crime.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/multiple-people-shot-at-tennessee-church-police-say.html
They're saying it will be investigated as a black-on-white hate crime.
Unpossible. Racism only flows from the powerful to the oppressed. /s
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Similar to the Dylan roof deal. Opposite color church takes in an oddball, oddball later returns with gratitude. What monuments do we tear down on this one?
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Given the shooter was a Sudanese immigrant, expect a recently-converted, easily-radicalized Muslim narrative to emerge, as well.
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Given the shooter was a Sudanese immigrant, expect a recently-converted, easily-radicalized Muslim narrative to emerge, as well.
That's what I expect will be found as the motive.
Does anyone know if that church had declared itself to be a gun-free zone? The usher who tackled the shooter (talk about a disparity of force!) had a carry permit, but his gun was in his car.
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Sometimes it's the policies; sometimes it's the dress code. Last time I was volunteering for security I mean hospitality duty, the dress code was a sport coat. I could have concealed dual MP5's. Nowadays, a lot of the churches I am attending are casual. My current church dress code for staff is literally a t-shirt, and if you don't want to look sloppy, it's not going to be too baggy. Not sure how to conceal well in that uniform especially in a role that involves the occasional hug. Moral: good dress codes can be both classy and tactical.
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Not sure how to conceal well in that uniform especially in a role that involves the occasional hug.
SmartCarry. And look for a church that still thinks Jesus is worth a couple minutes of effort one day a week.
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A young usher engaged the shooter and was pistol-whipped. During the encounter, the suspect wound up getting shot. The usher runs to his car, gets his gun, and holds the suspect at gunpoint. The young usher is a hero.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-usher-who-stopped-gunman-is-hailed-as-hero.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-usher-who-stopped-gunman-is-hailed-as-hero.html)
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A young usher engaged the shooter and was pistol-whipped. During the encounter, the suspect wound up getting shot. The usher runs to his car, gets his gun, and holds the suspect at gunpoint. The young usher is a hero.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-usher-who-stopped-gunman-is-hailed-as-hero.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-usher-who-stopped-gunman-is-hailed-as-hero.html)
Definitely a hero. Maybe some day we'll get the straight story. The first article I read said that the shooter was wounded when the gun went off while Engle was struggling with him. The second article said the shooter was wounded after Engle had gone to his car, retrieved his gun, and returned to the church.
Somehow, I find the former to be a more likely sequence.
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Given the shooter was a Sudanese immigrant, expect a recently-converted, easily-radicalized Muslim narrative to emerge, as well.
Don't you mean "fact to be buried?"
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The articles I read noted that he immigrated with his family when he was five years old. So he has lived in the States for the past twenty years, I am guessing.
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The articles I read noted that he immigrated with his family when he was five years old. So he has lived in the States for the past twenty years, I am guessing.
Yeah. Now, if only they'd come in illegally, he could have been a dreamer.
From what little I've seen of his social medium stuff, there's no Islamic content. If I remember correctly, Sudanese Christians are predominantly black, and the Muslims are of Arab descent. An ugly conflict between the two, and his family was likely on the Christian side. Looks like maybe an independent, entrepreneurial nutter. But we'll see what else comes out.
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The Antioch, Tennessee church shooter is an immigrant from Sudan and black power radical with a history of sharing pro-Islamic and anti-Western posts on social media, a review of his Facebook and Twitter accounts reveals.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-antioch-shooter-black-power-radical-posted-youre-likely-killed-white-man/
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http://gotnews.com/breaking-antioch-shooter-black-power-radical-posted-youre-likely-killed-white-man/
This is my shocked face....
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Was it more Bernie Bro violence?
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-usher-who-stopped-gunman-is-hailed-as-hero.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-usher-who-stopped-gunman-is-hailed-as-hero.html)
And yet the best they could to for a pic is to crop down the one where he's strangling an innocent ewok as part of his initiation into the Young Republicans.
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Hmmm. ^ Thought ewok was a cutesy name for "woke." Then I looked it up.
Discovered Terry's Law of Olde Pharteship:
Frequency of looking stuff up = function (age)
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Hmmm. ^ Thought ewok was a cutesy name for "woke." Then I looked it up.
Discovered Terry's Law of Olde Pharteship:
Frequency of looking stuff up = function (age)
Dude.
You need to get out just a little more. :old: :rofl: :rofl: >:D :facepalm:
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/21559/media-ignore-mass-shooting-tennessee-because-it-hank-berrien
Maybe you read about this story on page 14 of the newspaper. I’m not exaggerating, either. The New York Times put this mass shooting on page 14. The front page was dominated by athletes kneeling....
The church shooting does no favors to the liberal narrative, so it must be ignored. The shooter was black. He’s a Sudanese immigrant. He killed a white woman. He was stopped by a good guy with a gun.
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The articles I read noted that he immigrated with his family when he was five years old. So he has lived in the States for the past twenty years, I am guessing.
It's usually not the adults we have to worry about. It is their kids radicalizing that is the general problem.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/21755/media-silence-antioch-church-shooter-had-note-ryan-saavedra
http://wkrn.com/2017/09/29/police-antioch-church-shooting-suspect-had-note-about-church-massacre-in-charleston-sc/
A note, found by investigators in the car belonging to the alleged Antioch church gunman, referenced “revenge” for the Charleston church shooting by white supremacist Dylann Roof in 2015....
At the time of this report, The Daily Wire was not able to locate any articles on CNN’s website that mentioned the note and a review of MSNBC’s website revealed no articles that even mentioned the shooter’s name.
It's been a couple of days since the first story on the note, and of course the media is out there demanding that Black Lives Matter, and the Congressional Black Caucus, and Barack Obama distance themselves from the killer. Oh, wait. They're not? How interesting.
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It's been a couple of days since the first story on the note, and of course the media is out there demanding that Black Lives Matter, and the Congressional Black Caucus, and Barack Obama distance themselves from the killer. Oh, wait. They're not? How interesting.
Its a miracle that we even know the media want them to distance themselves from him ... or that we know they are not. I would expect the mdia to bury and ignore that, too.
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This one got memoryholed fast. Who'dathunkit?
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Similar to the Dylan roof deal. Opposite color church takes in an oddball, oddball later returns with gratitude. What monuments do we tear down on this one?
Martin Luther King, of course.
And we have to un-rename all those streets that were renamed "Martin Luther King Boulevard."
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And we have to un-rename all those streets that were renamed "Martin Luther King Boulevard."
Oh hell no; if you get rid of those, that crime will go back to happening in the rest of the cities.
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So here's an article published today, one week after the shooting.
Amid trauma, Tenn. church moves on after shooting (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/amid-trauma-tenn-church-moves-on-after-shooting/ar-AAsKdsc?OCID=ansmsnnews11)
Well, that's interesting. In 1100 words, there's no mention of race, or bigotry, or "hate crimes."
Continuing to hold services offers stability in an unstable time, said the Rev. Emilie Townes, dean of Vanderbilt Divinity School. Other congregations victimized by gun violence also have made that decision.
Oh, "gun violence." So we're not looking at it as "racist violence," or "violent bigotry," or "domestic terrorism," though we've been assured these are epidemic in "Trump's America." No, what happened in Antioch was "gun violence."
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Guess which other crime has no known motive. ;/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/21818/msnbc-motivations-behind-scalise-baseball-shooting-robert-kraychik
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Well, that's interesting. In 1100 words, there's no mention of race, or bigotry, or "hate crimes."
Oh, "gun violence." So we're not looking at it as "racist violence," or "violent bigotry," or "domestic terrorism," though we've been assured these are epidemic in "Trump's America." No, what happened in Antioch was "gun violence."
It's only racial or bigotry if it's a white perpetrator. People of color don't commit hate crimes, or engage in racist violence, or carry out domestic terrorism. They just seek equality. Only Trump supporters can be racist and bigoted and hateful.
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This incident has been pushed off the front pages by the Las Vegas shooting (plus the fact that the media don't want to talk about black-on-white gun violence), but I'd still like to find out (a) if there was an Islamist motive, (b) if the church was a gun-free zone, and (c) if the gun was purchased legally. Does anyone know if there has been any follow-up on this?
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This incident has been pushed off the front pages by the Las Vegas shooting (plus the fact that the media don't want to talk about black-on-white gun violence), but I'd still like to find out (a) if there was an Islamist motive, (b) if the church was a gun-free zone, and (c) if the gun was purchased legally. Does anyone know if there has been any follow-up on this?
I can only (partially) answer the first one. Here are two links I posted above.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/21755/media-silence-antioch-church-shooter-had-note-ryan-saavedra
http://wkrn.com/2017/09/29/police-antioch-church-shooting-suspect-had-note-about-church-massacre-in-charleston-sc/
From my very limited knowledge of Sudan, I am given to understand that it's not likely a black Sudanese is going to be Muslim. Also, he seems to have attended the church in the past, which would indicate that he identified (at least at one time) as a Christian. Then you have the note, which indictes he was on a racial trip.