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Title: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Lennyjoe on November 22, 2020, 09:52:51 AM
I think most of us are aware of the primer shortage and Powder Valley pretty much sums it up in a short post.  https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/why-is-there-a-primer-supply-shortage/ (https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/why-is-there-a-primer-supply-shortage/)

I’m not sitting bad on my stock but it could be an issue come summer and warmer weather when I tend to shoot more.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: K Frame on November 22, 2020, 10:27:43 AM
The one comment on that thread says "Maybe I'll take up knitting."

Just posted what my friend, a knitter has told me... that there have been some wicked yarn shortages this year...
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: T.O.M. on November 22, 2020, 10:42:17 AM
So, increased demand combined with decreased production due to COVID-19 and Remington's financial mess.  Remington's ammo business has been bought out. A vaccine appears to be imminent.  Demand, however, is going to increase, I fear, because politics. 

Maybe I could try archery...
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Ben on November 22, 2020, 10:46:30 AM
Maybe I could try archery...

I actually have around 20lb of BP (probably shouldn't post that on an open forum these days) so maybe in a glass half full kinda way, I should be shooting my safe queens and alternative firearms right now. I have a decent amount of CMP ammo for my CMP Garand as well. If it was good enough for WW2, it should be good enough for the boogaloo.  =D
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: MillCreek on November 22, 2020, 11:37:35 AM
The one comment on that thread says "Maybe I'll take up knitting."

Just posted what my friend, a knitter has told me... that there have been some wicked yarn shortages this year...

My wife completely agrees with this.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: lee n. field on November 22, 2020, 02:30:22 PM
I actually have around 20lb of BP (probably shouldn't post that on an open forum these days) so maybe in a glass half full kinda way,

 it should be good enough for the boogaloo.  =D

Don't use the black powder all up at once.  Unless there's a good reason to.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 22, 2020, 02:51:06 PM
I actually have around 20lb of BP (probably shouldn't post that on an open forum these days) so maybe in a glass half full kinda way, I should be shooting my safe queens and alternative firearms right now.

What happens when you run out of percussion caps?
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: WLJ on November 22, 2020, 02:53:20 PM
What happens when you run out of percussion caps?

Flint lock
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: bedlamite on November 22, 2020, 02:54:27 PM
What happens when you run out of percussion caps?

https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.myshopify.com/products/11-percussion-cap-maker

https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.myshopify.com/collections/products/products/prime-all-repriming-compound
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Ben on November 22, 2020, 02:59:28 PM
What happens when you run out of percussion caps?

I go to Cabelas and buy another 1000? They're not in short supply.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 22, 2020, 03:23:18 PM
I go to Cabelas and buy another 1000? They're not in short supply.

That surprises me. How's the supply of Pyrodex and other black powder substitutes? I may have to dig out my BP pistols and start making smoke. I couldn't do it before because the indoor range doesn't allow BP. I recently became a member of an outdoor range, so maybe now I can shoot BP. I'll have to review their range rules.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 22, 2020, 05:34:58 PM
http://aardvarkreloading.com/resources/homemadeprimercourse.pdf
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: French G. on November 22, 2020, 05:37:10 PM
What happens when you run out of percussion caps?

I will study my 5000 berdan primers and figure out how to make them go bang.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Ben on November 22, 2020, 05:41:27 PM
That surprises me. How's the supply of Pyrodex and other black powder substitutes?

I haven't looked, since I've got this big stock of BP. I've never shot any of the substitutes.

Edit: I got curious so went to Graf & Sons, where I have always bought my BP, and they are fully stocked on both BP and substitutes at what looks like normal pricing. They are out of most percussion caps though.

Maybe the percussion caps are a regional thing. My local Cabelas shows plenty of caps and BP substitute in-stock at the store.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: MechAg94 on November 22, 2020, 09:34:13 PM
I haven't looked, since I've got this big stock of BP. I've never shot any of the substitutes.

Edit: I got curious so went to Graf & Sons, where I have always bought my BP, and they are fully stocked on both BP and substitutes at what looks like normal pricing. They are out of most percussion caps though.

Maybe the percussion caps are a regional thing. My local Cabelas shows plenty of caps and BP substitute in-stock at the store.
I have a BP revolver I have never shot.  Maybe I need to take a trip to the nearest Cabelas and get the stuff I don't have.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: charby on November 22, 2020, 10:09:29 PM
Please don't take up archery, I'm having a hard enough time trying to find the right arrows and broadheads for an old #45 recurve bow I saved from being tossed. I just hope my shoulder doesn't hurt too much when I start shooting it.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 22, 2020, 10:36:45 PM
Please don't take up archery, I'm having a hard enough time trying to find the right arrows and broadheads for an old #45 recurve bow I saved from being tossed. I just hope my shoulder doesn't hurt too much when I start shooting it.


Traditional archery supplies this was/is go-to source.

https://kustomkingarchery.com/collections/arrow-building-supplies (https://kustomkingarchery.com/collections/arrow-building-supplies)
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Lennyjoe on November 22, 2020, 11:00:56 PM
I have both a traditional recurve and a compound bow collecting dust.  Might be time to blow them off and get to practicing...lol
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: charby on November 22, 2020, 11:06:22 PM

Traditional archery supplies this was/is go-to source.

https://kustomkingarchery.com/collections/arrow-building-supplies (https://kustomkingarchery.com/collections/arrow-building-supplies)

Thanks, probably not going to build arrows, but you never know. I'm going to go with off the shelf aluminum Easton, heavy and slow.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 23, 2020, 12:24:51 AM
I have both a traditional recurve and a compound bow collecting dust.  Might be time to blow them off and get to practicing...lol


I've got five traditional bows hanging on the rack. Three of them I made from Osage from trees I cut down, The best one draws (or did) an honest 53# at my draw length.  I made my own strings, built my own arrows. Never managed to take a deer with any of them but I've taken down a fair share of rabbits, squirrels and more than a few varmints.
Yet another activity I fear may be closed to me because of the shoulder problems.
 :'(
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Lennyjoe on November 23, 2020, 12:30:23 AM
Same here.  Shoulder issues are making it harder to draw.  Almost to the point of switching to crossbow.  Might be one of the reasons I haven’t been shooting archery lately....smh
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Jim147 on November 23, 2020, 12:33:16 AM
My bows have been sitting since I tore my rotator in '98. I do have a crossbow now but haven't tried for a deer yet.

Helping my daughter with her newer bow with like 80% let off makes me wonder if I could do one of the new bows.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: charby on November 23, 2020, 04:05:38 PM
Same here.  Shoulder issues are making it harder to draw.  Almost to the point of switching to crossbow.  Might be one of the reasons I haven’t been shooting archery lately....smh

I got a permanent crossbow permit after my shoulder surgery, I bought a crossbow then too. I'm still on the fence if I like it or not. Dead nuts accurate to 70 yards with the Nikon x bow scope and Warner rings I put on it. Just freaking loud and you'll never get a 2nd shot off like with a bow.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: charby on November 23, 2020, 05:21:07 PM
I just found a Bear Red Fox recurve bow I had tucked away in inventory. 20# draw, 50" AMO this will be fun in the backyard.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 23, 2020, 05:25:34 PM
It'd be a good small game rabbit/squirrel bow. Zwickey judo point will kill 'em deader than hell with that bow.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: charby on November 23, 2020, 05:30:46 PM
It'd be a good small game rabbit/squirrel bow. Zwickey judo point will kill 'em deader than hell with that bow.

Yea, that would be fun to call a raccoon in and kill it with the bow.
Title: Re: Powder Valley weighs in on primer shortage
Post by: Jim147 on November 23, 2020, 05:46:41 PM
Unless it goes right over the back then all you get is some grey fur. Not sure how I know that.