A friend of mine has been shot by the IDF

[MicroBalrog]

Happened during a protest against some action of the military in the West Bank which the protesters thought to be unfair to the inhabitants of that area.

The Army guys shot at them with a large amount of rubber bullets, threw flashbangs, and so on.

My friend (and I believe him, because he's not the crazy-wacko-leftie type, and actually a combat vet himself) got injured, and so were a few other guys in that protest. He says they were not doing anything even remotely dangerous or threatening, either.

So yeah. Meh. It sucks.

[De Selby]

Best wishes for your friend.

[Matthew Carberry]

Tell him to walk it off.

That's what coach always told me. 

Glad to hear he's okay.  Protesting can be dangerous.

[MicroBalrog]

Tell him to walk it off.

That's what coach always told me. 

Glad to hear he's okay.  Protesting can be dangerous.

Well, he can't walk, per se, there's a giant hematoma-like thing on his leg, but I think there's no permanent damage.

He's in a lot of pain, and really pissed, too.

[wmenorr67]

Rub some dirt on it.  He will be ok.

[MicroBalrog]

Amazing, some people are.

[Matthew Carberry]

Amazing, some people are.

You apparently didn't have a typical high school coach. 

A hematoma would get you a "take a lap and hit the showers".

Also, since he's alive, and was voluntarily participating in a "sport" known for rubber-bullet attracting, he's fair game for taunting.

I'm sure we are all glad the worst he got was major bruising.

[wmenorr67]

Just remember RICE

R est
I ce
C ompression
E levation

Ice for 30 minutes, rest it for an hour or so then more ice.  Do this for about 24 hours then switch to moist heat.

[MicroBalrog]

You apparently didn't have a typical high school coach. 

I was exempt from school sports. The coach had me hold the stopper while the guys did 2.5 klick laps. They sure did love me.

A hematoma would get you a "take a lap and hit the showers".

I may be having the name of it wrong. His doctor told him he'd walk by the middle of the week though.

Also, since he's alive, and was voluntarily participating in a "sport" known for rubber-bullet attracting, he's fair game for taunting.

A valid point, of course.

But the reason this annoys me is because normally you expect the Army to do this to 'professional protestor' types, the sort of long-haired hippy dudes this forum likes to hate, or people who throw rocks at  soldiers, and settler wackos.

Here's a reasonable fellow, who participates in a peaceful protest, who is an upstanding member of society and still they do this to him and a bunch of other people, without any sort of provocation.

Maybe I am stupid, but I expect the Army to only use this sort of stuff when someone is actually disrupting the peace, not just lob flashbangs or shoot at random protesters.

[Matthew Carberry]

Well, you roll the dice and sometimes you end up with jumpy cops.  Protesting is risky.

That's why I just mutter in bars and post brave comments on the internets. 

Hopefully there will be an investigation into any wrongdoing.

Oh, I'm sure you have the injury right, the joke is that the coach would even tell a guy with a broken leg to "take a lap and hit the showers". 

[De Selby]

Well, you roll the dice and sometimes you end up with jumpy cops.  Protesting is risky.

That's why I just mutter in bars and post brave comments on the internets. 

Dude, that post is golden-I'm making that into my tshirt (the one that goes under my shirt, that is...)

[wideym]

Can we use flash bangs and rubber bullet on funeral protesters too? 

Please?

Pretty please?

[Matthew Carberry]

Well, you roll the dice and sometimes you end up with jumpy cops.  Protesting is risky.

That's why I just mutter in bars and post brave comments on the internets. 

Dude, that post is golden-I'm making that into my tshirt (the one that goes under my shirt, that is...)

You are welcome to it my friend.

[wmenorr67]

Can we use flash bangs and rubber bullet on funeral protesters too? 

Please?

Pretty please?

Actually the PGR and other groups have done a great job in silencing the protesters.

[209]

Well, you roll the dice and sometimes you end up with jumpy cops.  Protesting is risky.

That's why I just mutter in bars and post brave comments on the internets. 

Dude, that post is golden-I'm making that into my tshirt (the one that goes under my shirt, that is...)

You are welcome to it my friend.

A very funny statement.  Can I also steal it- I'll name you as author. 

[LadySmith]

Nevermind
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[coppertales]

So, this guy(?) was protesting against the IDF.  What did they expect the IDF to do, sing cum by ya and hold hands?  Some people live in the shallow end of the gene pool......chris3

[Nitrogen]

There are non-liberal wackos that oppose the IDF?

You learn something new every day

[roo_ster]

There are non-liberal wackos that oppose the IDF?

You learn something new every day

Assumes quite a bit.

In a state with conscription, you are going to have many veterans who despised the/their service and who are alienated from that service.

I don't know that this is the case, but assumptions of right-wingitude of a veteran of a conscript army are not justified.

And then there are the right-wing folks who despise the IDF for their own reasons...

[MicroBalrog]

So, this guy(?) was protesting against the IDF.  What did they expect the IDF to do, sing cum by ya and hold hands?  Some people live in the shallow end of the gene pool......chris3

Like people who think that the army should be allowed to do whatever the hell it wants, including violating its own rules, to people we're not at war with, who have not done us anything wrong.

As per Nitrogen's comment, naturally the fellow is left-wing. But he's not an OMG NUTCASE HIPPIE, in the sense that he has a job, a life, reasonably-moderate views, and is a combat vet and former IDF officer.

[CAnnoneer]

Chris Titus:" Suck it up and stop being a wussieeee!"

[taurusowner]

I can't really comment since once guy's biased "someone told me" story on the internet isn't exactly the gold standard of proof.

[Matthew Carberry]

I can't really comment since once guy's biased "someone told me" story on the internet isn't exactly the gold standard of proof.

Technically, posting that is "commenting".

[RevDisk]

Happened during a protest against some action of the military in the West Bank which the protesters thought to be unfair to the inhabitants of that area.

The Army guys shot at them with a large amount of rubber bullets, threw flashbangs, and so on.

My friend (and I believe him, because he's not the crazy-wacko-leftie type, and actually a combat vet himself) got injured, and so were a few other guys in that protest. He says they were not doing anything even remotely dangerous or threatening, either.

So yeah. Meh. It sucks.

Sorry to hear what happened to your friend.  Give him our regards and hopes that he'll not have any permanent damage.

Most combat vets I know IRL are pretty cynical about our government.  They'd more or less expect such a thing happening to unarmed protestors.  If he was level headed, rational and such, I'd be shocked if he didn't expect worse.  Saw footage from the FTAA 'riots' in Miami of downed protestors being shot with less-lethal weapons.  There is no such thing as "non-lethal" weapons.

[MicroBalrog]

  If he was level headed, rational and such, I'd be shocked if he didn't expect worse.

He's pissed. Not sure if he expected this, but he's pissed and all like "I did not expect this from our Army, we didn't do this when I was in the service" and stuff.