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DOJ Operation Choke Point: Shut down Accounts of those we disapprove
« on: April 28, 2014, 06:51:12 PM »
Just keep any business selling them from being able to get a bank account.  :mad:

It's getting press now because it's being used against porn stars, but the basic principle is that Eric Holder's DoJ is pressuring banks to refuse accounts with businesses involved in activities it considers a "high risk" of money laundering.  ;/ We won't see legislative gun bans pushed through any time soon, but the unaccountable impossible to fire bureaucratic drones in the myriad fed.gov departments? They can do whatever they want at no risk to themselves.



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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 07:59:54 PM »
Maybe I should open the "FU Bank".  "If you are in one of those listed industries, we want your business."


I should probably open it off-shore so I don't get JBT'd every other week. 
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 08:35:47 PM »
High risk of money laundering? Funny, I don't see lawmakers or PACs for lawmakers on the list.
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 09:30:03 PM »
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 10:44:15 PM »
Isn't the porn industry very lucrative, with many legitimate business generating millions in tax revenue in the process?
Just saying.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 04:32:28 AM »
I forsee political contribution from industry rallying the dems to  defend free expression

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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 09:26:38 AM »
They should be careful what they wish for.

Sum up the total net worth/activity in billions of FRN's for those "industries", and then think about what kind of gravitas they'd give BitCoin or some other system vs. the Fed Reserve.

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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2014, 09:30:27 AM »
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They should be careful what they wish for.

Much like homeland security and the TSA, it all sounds good when it's your side doing it.
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2014, 10:00:11 AM »
Quote from: Balog on April 28, 2014, 06:51:12 PM
the basic principle is that Eric Holder's DoJ is pressuring banks to refuse accounts with businesses involved in activities it considers a "high risk" of money laundering.

"Money Transfer Networks"
"Ponzi Schemes"
"Racist Materials"
"Surveillance Equipment"

So the Feds want all their accounts closed?
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 10:19:41 AM »
Hell every business type can and at one point or another in time been used to launder money.
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2014, 11:36:36 AM »
"Coin Dealers" . . . so numismatists are now suspect; can philatelists be far behind?

"Pharmaceutical Sales" . . . adios to Walgreens, CVS, Rite-Aid, and grocery stores with their own pharmacies.

"Ammunition Sales" . . . Walmart, Academy and Dick's better get their own banks.

"Surveillance Equipment" . . . Goodbye, Best Buy
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2014, 12:48:34 PM »
Then wouldn't everyone just start using non US banks?
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 01:00:14 PM »
Quote from: HankB on April 29, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
"Coin Dealers" . . . so numismatists are now suspect; can philatelists be far behind?

"Pharmaceutical Sales" . . . adios to Walgreens, CVS, Rite-Aid, and grocery stores with their own pharmacies.

"Ammunition Sales" . . . Walmart, Academy and Dick's better get their own banks.

"Surveillance Equipment" . . . Goodbye, Best Buy

I believe they mean they intend on harassing small businesses and future competition for the listed large corporations.
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2014, 01:22:34 PM »
Quote from: RevDisk on April 29, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
I believe they mean they intend on harassing small businesses and future competition for the listed large corporations.

Which is always the unintended (ha!) side effect of regulations.
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Re: Operation Choke Point: don't ban guns...
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 08:37:06 PM »
Quote from: HankB on April 29, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
"Coin Dealers" . . . so numismatists are now suspect; can philatelists be far behind?

"Pharmaceutical Sales" . . . adios to Walgreens, CVS, Rite-Aid, and grocery stores with their own pharmacies.

"Ammunition Sales" . . . Walmart, Academy and Dick's better get their own banks.

"Surveillance Equipment" . . . Goodbye, Best Buy

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DOJ Tells Banks to Shut Down Immoral Client Accounts (Pornstars)
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2014, 05:25:56 PM »
Government is now so deeply entwined with our banking and unaccountably so, I guess I should have seen this lack of propriety coming.  I wonder if the next high risk industry is bartending or gun sales.  

I can easily envision the government mindset that all money is their money and the regulation of it is their due concern. I just happen to think that is unAmerican.  Money is supposed to be the most basic example of fungibility; anyone's is as good as anyone else's.  
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Re: DOJ Tells Banks to Shut Down Immoral Client Accounts (Pornstars)
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Re: DOJ Tells Banks to Shut Down Immoral Client Accounts (Pornstars)
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2014, 07:17:11 PM »
Quote from: Ned Hamford on April 30, 2014, 05:25:56 PM
https://news.vice.com/articles/is-the-doj-forcing-banks-to-terminate-the-accounts-of-porn-stars?utm_source=vicefbus

Apparently a 2013 program by the DOJ is continuing to expand.  'Encouraging' banks to cease doing business with 'high risk' individuals; an example being any associated in any fashion with 'high risk' industries. 

Government is now so deeply entwined with our banking and unaccountably so, I guess I should have seen this lack of propriety coming.  I wonder if the next high risk industry is bartending or gun sales. 

I can easily envision the government mindset that all money is their money and the regulation of it is their due concern. I just happen to think that is unAmerican.  Money is supposed to be the most basic example of fungibility; anyone's is as good as anyone else's. 

Isn't that the argument they made in the bitcoin thing? That they solely possesses control of money?
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Re: DOJ Operation Choke Point: Shut down Accounts of those we disapprove
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Re: DOJ Operation Choke Point: Shut down Accounts of those we disapprove
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2014, 05:54:57 PM »
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