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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on November 06, 2022, 11:02:34 AM
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I am not looking forward to this if Trump throws his hat in the ring:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-mocks-desantis-pennsylvania-rally-ron-desanctimonious
As I've stated before, I would have been happy to see a second Trump term, for spite if nothing else, but it's time for Trump to take another role.
I can only see this harming Rs in the next primaries. I believe DeSantis will end up on top if Trump goes full bore on the junior high twitter (or truth social) thing, but likely to the detriment of both DeSantis and conservatives.
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I agree. Trump set the stage and things he did were good for the country. It's time for him to be elder statesman and help give creds to DeSantis if DeSantis chooses to run. I fear Trump's ego won't allow that, which is a shame. :old:
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Trump's too narcissistic to bow out. I think he feels he's owed another term.
As long as he's upright, he'll run again. Where that puts the republicans in '24 I'm less sure of.
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Trump was a good president his first three years, and a horrible one his fourth year (obscene financial decisions).
I am sick of his crap.
I wish he would bow out.
But his bloated ego won't let him, even if it screws conservatives in the next election.
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Agree with all above. As much as I like Trump I believe it’s DeSantis time.
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The trouble is not so much with Trump as with the number of his followers that are so tired of being done over by Republicans, they won't trust anyone else. If Trump isn't nominated, they'll sit out the election, and discourage others, by doing everything they can to sabotage the nominee. It could be really ugly.
If Trump endorsed the nominee, that would help. But how much?
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I agree. Trump set the stage and things he did were good for the country. It's time for him to be elder statesman and help give creds to DeSantis if DeSantis chooses to run. I fear Trump's ego won't allow that, which is a shame. :old:
Agreed, as well as with the "elder statesman" role. Maybe in the legislature, where he might have a positive effect.
But.... that ego....won't allow that.
Hey, Big T. Think of the country instead of yourself !
Terry, 230RN
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They need to work together. There really isn't any other way to go looking at things right now.
That said, it is two years away. The primary candidates won't start declaring until next summer or so. Nothing I do will change what they will do so I am not going to worry about it.
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I will vote against trump in the primary if he runs and sit out the general regardless. I voted for his second term but I am over it. If we even make it that far, so awaiting the Vp replacement and then JB impeachment saga.
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I have my doubts that the R's will impeach Biden if they get the majority. Some would, but I have my doubts the leadership will go for it.
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I have my doubts that the R's will impeach Biden if they get the majority. Some would, but I have my doubts the leadership will go for it.
Of course they will. All part of destroying democracy.
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Worse case is Trump gets elected again then DeSantis and the lady from Arizona as VP follow Trump in 2028…. :old:
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I have my doubts that the R's will impeach Biden if they get the majority. Some would, but I have my doubts the leadership will go for it.
Remove Biden and we get President Harris. Remove her and we get who or whatever she picked as VP or Pelosi. Yes it can get worse
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Impeachment will be preferred and encouraged because then the dems can campaign against those nasty repubs. Nothing happens without replacing the VP first. Other option is Joe bravely dies in office. Martyrs make good campaigners, mainly because they can't make any gaffes.
A 25th amendment move admits us deplorables were right. So does Joe stepping down for health reasons.
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The House may impeach Biden for a show trial or in payback for what they did to Trump, but there no chance of the Republicans to get 66 seats in the Senate, so zero chance they remove Biden from office through that route.
25th amendment is even longer odds unless he strokes out or something.
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It seems that Trump will eventually dog on anyone in his sphere who isn't working for him. Just something you get with him. He is a mixed bag on results depending on who he surrounds himself with. Regardless, I will take him over any Democrat and most/all deep state Republicans.
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The only way I'd consider voting for Trump again is if he's collaborating with Desantis.
Kim had some good thoughts on this:
https://www.kimdutoit.com/2022/11/07/memorandum/
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the scenario I consider likely: Trump will lose the primary and run as an independent. Then he will be as nasty to the R's as he is to anybody else that doesn't consider him 100 right about everything. That would be bad, but I can see his ego driving him that way.
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Just today I heard someone mention they thought DeSantis is friendly with some deep state Republicans like Paul Ryan so they don't think he would do what many want to see in D.C. I didn't catch any details to pass on other than that so just something to be aware of.
I will say that there is probably no person running for office in this country that is perfect or that someone couldn't find some reason to paint them as a bad choice. That is something to remember with Trump, DeSantis, or anyone else.
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the scenario I consider likely: Trump will lose the primary and run as an independent. Then he will be as nasty to the R's as he is to anybody else that doesn't consider him 100 right about everything. That would be bad, but I can see his ego driving him that way.
That's as scary a scenario that I have ever seen. Guarantees a D in the White House.
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Betting markets took notice of the election results
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhH126TXwAA4k1-?format=jpg&name=small)
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Betting markets took notice of the election results
So did the stock markets.
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I still want trump action without trump. Maybe even DJT Junior would be okay. But no squishies. The media has torn down every decent candidate for th last forty years so we get pro wrestling candidates. Same as what the Bork and Thomas mess brought. Proving why we can’t vote ourselves out as long as the structure exists.
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Granted, NR is not generally bullish on Trump, but I think this makes sense:
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/
I think it is revealing that the exit polls indicated that 33 percent of Florida voters said they want to see Donald Trump president run in 2024, and 45 percent said they wanted to see DeSantis run for president in 2024.
My takeaway from all this is that Americans are tired of the circus, the freakshow, the in-your-face, all-controversy-is-good, Trump-influenced wannabes. The country’s got real problems, and they won’t be solved by table-pounding pop-culture celebrities who want to emote populist rage on Hannity. Maybe that schtick can win you a primary, and if you’re in a sufficiently Republican-leaning district or state, you’ll be okay. But the country is full of purple and light-blue states that the GOP needs to win if it wants to steer the ship of state.
Donald Trump wants to announce he’s running for president later this month? Why? What’s he got to offer?
Inflation is at 8.2 percent, the average price of gas nationwide is $3.80 a gallon, crime is rising, the waves of migrants at the border continue, and the learning loss among kids at school is real.
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I might also suggest they want someone to talk solutions and not just talk about how bad the other candidate is or harp on some social issue that won't be solved anyway.
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^^^Amen!
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I might also suggest they want someone to talk solutions and not just talk about how bad the other candidate is or harp on some social issue that won't be solved anyway.
Not sure what social issue you're referring to, but I hope we've all learned by now that social issues are where the game is being played - where Republicans were played like fools for the past 25 years.
We all like to say, "politics is downstream from culture," but we never realized that acceding to cultural liberalism is a big part of how we've let the politics also go so far left on us. We thought we could disregard private morality, and our progeny would still retain the public morality, civic virtue, etc. Men without chests...
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Geez, Donald. Take a step back.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1590842213004869632/photo/3
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the scenario I consider likely: Trump will lose the primary and run as an independent. Then he will be as nasty to the R's as he is to anybody else that doesn't consider him 100 right about everything. That would be bad, but I can see his ego driving him that way.
You beat me to it with your post. That would guarantee another D in the White House no matter who it was.
My state of Michigan went full D from the re electing Whitmer et al + a house and senate that is D for the first time in decades, and a supreme court which will wind up leftist Ds in the majority. Heck even conservative W. Michigan where I live went D.
Gotta hand it to the Marxists from the 60's and 70's. They have been working overtime for 50+ years and have dumbed down a good deal of the population as they control the media, schools, industry, government and even churches. Couple in some willful ignorance, apathy, and voting machinations I'd say America as a bastion of freedom is pretty much over.
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Enter Hollyweird with some weirdness where DeSantis is accused of sexual assault in a show
How does this related to OP you may ask. Well......
The series finale of Paramount+ "The Good Fight" left social media users stunned on Thursday for featuring a plot in which a character claimed to be sexually assaulted by Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, only to confess he was lying later on in the show.
Diane immediately dismisses the accusation as politically motivated "bulls---" despite Staples claiming to have DNA proof. The lawyers spend the episode gathering evidence to expose Staples for lying. He eventually confesses to fabricating the allegations to tarnish the Florida governor's reputation, because it will put former President Trump "ahead in the polling" in 2024's presidential race.
Very very weird but not really all that shocking they would do something like this to get DeSantis and an association with sexual assault stuck in people minds and drag Trump into it as well :O
In some ways you got to admire their craftiness.
Twitter erupts over CBS's 'The Good Fight' finale which has character accuse DeSantis of being sex offender'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-erupts-cbs-good-fight-finale-character-accuse-desantis-sex-offender
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What the *expletive deleted*ck is Trump doing?
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/11/donald-trump-shifts-his-attention-to-attacking-glenn-youngkin-whose-last-name-sounds-chinese/
I've never liked his Junior High stuff, but when it was against the other side I could at least just dismiss it with a "grow up, man". These sudden attacks against successful Republicans who have been doing good things in their states is just mind blowing.
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What the *expletive deleted*ck is Trump doing?
Same thing he's always done. He fights.
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What the *expletive deleted*ck is Trump doing?
My opinion: he has to be the center of attention, and attacks anyone whom he perceives as a threat to that.
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He's always treated his allies like garbage whenever the notion took him.
Remember him viscously insulting Sessions in public?
Remember him insulting Cruz's wife with an ugly meme?
He let all the Jan 6 defendants rot in jail and didn't do a thing to help them.
This sums it up for me:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhPO1xMXoAANBsV?format=jpg&name=small)
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This sums it up for me:
Concur, as long as we get someone better.
Obviously, Liz Cheney won't be the nominee, but we could still get somebody worse than Trump, better than Liz.
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Concur, as long as we get someone better.
Obviously, Liz Cheney won't be the nominee, but we could still get somebody worse than Trump, better than Liz.
*cough*
Chris Jansing: "A top Democrat suggested to me, watch for Tim Ryan years in the future to run for president."
MSNBC panelist: "What about if we pair up Liz Cheney and Stacey Abrams?… That would be exciting." pic.twitter.com/lsrTvPiWw7
— Washington Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) November 10, 2022
MSNBC guest suggests ‘we pair up Liz Cheney and Stacey Abrams’ for an ‘exciting’ presidential ticket
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/10/msnbc-guest-suggests-we-pair-up-liz-cheney-and-stacey-abrams-for-an-exciting-presidential-ticket/
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*cough*
MSNBC guest suggests ‘we pair up Liz Cheney and Stacey Abrams’ for an ‘exciting’ presidential ticket
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/10/msnbc-guest-suggests-we-pair-up-liz-cheney-and-stacey-abrams-for-an-exciting-presidential-ticket/
Sadly, no one really suggested Cheney/Abrams as presidential running mates. They were talking about them being Biden's "czars" of election "reform."
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Agree with this:
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/11/12/when-you-have-lost-winsome-sears-n510231
I supported Trump when and because he was a vehicle for achieving my ultimate goal: saving America and indeed Western Civilization from the creeping Marxism that is growing like a fungus over everything. Woke ideology, socialist/fascist economics, the Bond-villain Eliteâ„¢, the administrative state–all these are enemies of all that is right and true and just.
Trump himself? He always struck me as a showman and a huckster without a heart of gold. But so what? He was fighting the right fights and doing the world a lot of good, so unlike many, I was indifferent to his tantrums, tweets, and hyperbole. All those things annoyed me, but it was also fun to watch the Left go postal every time he spoke. So there was some compensation for all the drama.
I also appreciate that the article didn't bother with any nonsense about "racism." Saying Youngkin sounds like a Chinese name is dumb, but racist? No, not at all. I'm beyond tired of people screeching RACISM!!! just because somebody mentioned non-whites with something less than reverent awe.
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Agree with this:
That article encompasses many of my current thoughts as well.
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If he didn't say it sounded Chinese Joy Reid would be saying that's racist.
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Here we go again
Donald Trump announces 2024 re-election run for president
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/donald-trump-announces-2024-re-election-run-president
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Here we go again
Donald Trump announces 2024 re-election run for president
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/donald-trump-announces-2024-re-election-run-president
I hope Trump chokes while eating a big bag of Richards. Not Sorry!
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Well they got one thing right in that, he has filed to run again.
BREAKING: Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, has filed to run for president again in 2024. https://t.co/iqIcaN3SZA
— NPR (@NPR) November 16, 2022
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/11/16/headline-about-trumps-announcement-is-the-peakest-of-peak-npr/
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I like the NYPOST's take better. Florida Man Makes Announcement - Page 26 :rofl:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhrwCwsWAAEcYUi?format=jpg&name=small)
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I hope Trump chokes while eating a big bag of Richards. Not Sorry!
I see your jimmies are quite rustled with that case of TDS
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I see your jimmies are quite rustled with that case of TDS
GOP is going to f+ck the pooch, Mitch is back too. Let's see what GOP f+cktard gets to be the Speaker of the House.
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GOP is going to f+ck the pooch, Mitch is back too. Let's see what GOP f+cktard gets to be the Speaker of the House.
It's going to be Kevin McCarthy. Almost as worthless as McConnell in the Senate.
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GOP is going to f+ck the pooch, Mitch is back too. Let's see what GOP f+cktard gets to be the Speaker of the House.
This.
And I second you other motion.
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Which is something I would hope Trump is prepared for. To do it without the RNC.
At this point, there is no guarantee DeSantic will run, and I can't think of anyone else on the R side that would be better than Trump. Trump is still a guy who makes the left and the establishment types have fits and I still like that trait.
Even the primary elections are a very long way away at this point.
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Ivanka Trump Says She Won’t Be Involved With Politics This Time Around
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/ivanka-trump-says-wont-involved-politics-time-around/
I guess that might be an improvement.
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Not sure if this needs a separate thread. Just thought I would drop it somewhere for posterity.
Dirty Mitch Was on the Take… McConnell Received $2.5 Million from Crypto Laundromat FTX for His Senate Leadership Fund
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/dirty-mitch-take-mcconnell-received-2-5-million-crypto-laundromat-ftx-senate-leadership-fund/
Documents show McConnell’s Senate Leadership Fund received $2,500,000 from someone at FTX, the crypto company that fell in disgrace last week.
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On sober reflection, Mitch is still a bitch..
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Just for #6 alone, he has my support.
https://babylonbee.com/news/10-things-trump-says-hell-do-immediately-upon-taking-office
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And like clockwork, two more DOJ investigations against Trump:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/11/18/ag-merrick-garland-announces-not-one-but-two-new-criminal-investigations-of-trump/
So I don't know, do I need to keep putting a caveat in my Trump posts about how I'd rather that he not run again, but this only makes me want to support him? And that when they do this totalitarian crap, Trump is not Trump, he's me and you being steamrolled by out of control establishment partisan government?
This crap is exactly why I find myself agreeing more and more with Tulsi Gabbard on stuff.
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And like clockwork, two more DOJ investigations against Trump:
Has anyone kept count on how many this makes that have been nothing but nothing burgers?
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Man, Trump has been going a little off the deep end, and DeSantis is following one of my favorite formulas, which is to ignore the guy trying to get a rise out of you.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/02/08/ron-desantis-responds-to-donald-trumps-efforts-to-bait-him-without-giving-msm-what-theyre-after/
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Man, Trump has been going a little off the deep end, and DeSantis is following one of my favorite formulas, which is to ignore the guy trying to get a rise out of you.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/02/08/ron-desantis-responds-to-donald-trumps-efforts-to-bait-him-without-giving-msm-what-theyre-after/
As much as I appreciate the cage-rattling he did while in office, I agree that Trump has taken things a bit far since. DeSantis really seems to have his head on straight, plus seeming to have the proper perspective and context in mind when it comes to government's role in the Grand Scheme. A lot of people I know are saying the same thing. Barring some hitherto unknown faux pas, he's shaping up to be a heckuva candidate should he decide to run.
Brad
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IMO, it isn't far off from what he did in his first campaign. Most of the stuff he says sounds bad for a day, but it more or less forgotten a week later.
For this, contributing to the delinquency of a minor isn't something to throw around lightly. On the other hand, I am not certain that picture alone actually shows that so it is meaningless without more backstory.
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From what I've read, this photo has surfaced before, and didn't stop DeSantis from getting a huge win last year.
I hope DeSantis has learned what most Republicans (especially the base) cannot seem to figure out - be cautious in criticizing other Republicans. Trump may be nominated next year, so we tear him down at our peril. Course, that also goes the other way...
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Remove Biden and we get President Harris. Remove her and we get who or whatever she picked as VP or Pelosi. Yes it can get worse
I think President Harris would be a perversely good thing. First female US president, and she's an incompetent idiot who slept her way to the top and everyone knows it. Way to go, women of America! Someone you can be proud of.
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Am I the only one who thinks that trying to recreate the Trump vs the world magic of 2016 is like waiting for lightning to strike twice? I just don't see him winning the general election this time.
And for all the talk of DeSantis's lack of charm or charisma, that hasn't stopped people on both sides from paying attention to everything he's said or done for the past 2-plus years. Didn't keep him from having a historically strong reelection victory.
At this point, even Trump and his base seem to talk about The Ronald just as much as they do about The Donald.
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Am I the only one who thinks that trying to recreate the Trump vs the world magic of 2016 is like waiting for lightning to strike twice? I just don't see him winning the general election this time.
Truthfully, I don't see a Republican ever winning the presidency again. It really doesn't matter who they run.
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Truthfully, I don't see a Republican ever winning the presidency again. It really doesn't matter who they run.
I'm of the same opinion. Have been for a long time, Trump was a pleasant surprise.
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Truthfully, I don't see a Republican ever winning the presidency again. It really doesn't matter who they run.
It could happen, it would just require that Republicans (the leadership and the rank & file) pay attention to how elections are being conducted, and make changes. Some states have already put safeguards in place. Apparently, we also have to vote early now, to prevent foolishness. ;/
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It could happen, it would just require that Republicans (the leadership and the rank & file) pay attention to how elections are being conducted, and make changes. Some states have already put safeguards in place. Apparently, we also have to vote early now, to prevent foolishness. ;/
I still submit that election fraud in the form of things like ballot manipulation is a much smaller part of the problem than is election manipulation by big tech and the MSM in the form of disinformation and censorship. What we've seen exposed at Twitter is only the tiniest part of the tip of the iceberg.
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I still submit that election fraud in the form of things like ballot manipulation is a much smaller part of the problem than is election manipulation by big tech and the MSM in the form of disinformation and censorship. What we've seen exposed at Twitter is only the tiniest part of the tip of the iceberg.
And that starts with schools, children's TV programming, and goes on from there.
The people have been hacked, which will take generations to overcome.