Author Topic: Ted Nugent thinks the DEA and ATF are heroes (Read 2269 times)

Balog · « **on:** March 21, 2014, 03:11:45 AM »

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/feb/27/ted-nugent/ted-nugent-cnn-i-conduct-federal-raids-dea-and-atf/
Yes, it is a liberal source and they are undoubtedly engaging in selective scrutiny. But he did in fact say it.

Of course, all that pales in relation to the fact that he basically bought an underage girl to have sex with, but still...

Battle Monkey of Zardoz · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:50:33 AM »

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Ted Nugent thinks the DEA and ATF are heroes

Ted Nugent is an idiot

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2014, 08:02:11 AM »

Quote from: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on March 21, 2014, 05:50:33 AM

Ted Nugent is an idiot

Who's the bigger idiot? Ted Nugent? Or the politicos who continue to associate with him? I guess the money is too good for folks to turn him down.

lupinus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2014, 08:09:30 AM »

Quote from: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on March 21, 2014, 05:50:33 AM

Ted Nugent is an idiot

Rather milder than I'd put it.

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zahc · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:24:51 AM »

As I remember, Ted is quite anti-drug. I wonder if he arrived at his standpoint through emotional overreaction.

Tallpine · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:17:31 AM »

Quote from: zahc on March 21, 2014, 09:24:51 AM

As I remember, Ted is quite anti-drug. I wonder if he arrived at his standpoint through emotional overreaction.

The "reformed alcoholic" syndrome

T.O.M. · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:40:07 AM »

Ted Nugent is an entertainer. Just like Sean Penn and a lot of the others we like to bash for their political views. And, as we often say, just because they are in the entertainment industry doesn't make their opinions on political issues worth a damn, it just means that they get broader reporting for what they say than the average person. In other words, ignore their political ramblings and move along.

roo_ster · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:54:46 AM »

IIRC, TN was never into drugs. Not sure about alcohol.

Tallpine · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:05:06 AM »

Quote from: Roo_ster on March 21, 2014, 10:54:46 AM

IIRC, TN was never into drugs.

Then he was missing one of the holy trinity

Fitz · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:20:56 AM »

TN was never into drugs, and didn't abuse alcohol.

People like to assume he was because he was a musician.

Why don't people like Ted, again?

As for the article, I think context is important

Balog · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:25:38 AM »

Quote from: Fitz on March 21, 2014, 11:20:56 AM

TN was never into drugs, and didn't abuse alcohol.

People like to assume he was because he was a musician.

Why don't people like Ted, again?

As for the article, I think context is important

I've seen the full context, and the point stands.

I can't speak to why others don't like him, but me personally I find anyone who would become an underage girl's legal guardian just to sleep with her repugnant. Plenty of toher reasons, but that's the big one for me.

Tallpine · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:32:56 AM »

Quote from: Balog on March 21, 2014, 11:25:38 AM

I've seen the full context, and the point stands.

I can't speak to why others don't like him, but me personally I find anyone who would become an underage girl's legal guardian just to sleep with her repugnant. Plenty of toher reasons, but that's the big one for me.

Sex: check

Rock 'n Roll: check

Drugs:

roo_ster · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:58:31 AM »

Quote from: Balog on March 21, 2014, 11:25:38 AM

I've seen the full context, and the point stands.

I can't speak to why others don't like him, but me personally I find anyone who would become an underage girl's legal guardian just to sleep with her repugnant. Plenty of toher reasons, but that's the big one for me.

Looks like TN (30YO vs 17YO) was following in the footsteps/slimetrail? of Elvis (32YO vs 14YO) and Jerry Lee Lewis (22YO vs 13YO). And an awful lot of folks who had teenaged weddings or where the age of consent is mighty low. If'n we are going to throw rocks at TN for such, there are many others in music and elsewhere who need some rock-age, too.

I must admit the whole "legal guardian" bit is creepifying. If he had married her, a 17YO bride would be no big whoop. TN's excratory draft dodging technique left much to be desired, too.

Fitz · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2014, 12:03:19 PM »

That girl was only slightly younger than my wife when we met.

17 isn't egregious, imo. Guardianship is creepy, but its hardly the "kid fiddling" his detractors claim

Balog · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2014, 12:36:53 PM »

Quote from: Roo_ster on March 21, 2014, 11:58:31 AM

Looks like TN (30YO vs 17YO) was following in the footsteps/slimetrail? of Elvis (32YO vs 14YO) and Jerry Lee Lewis (22YO vs 13YO). And an awful lot of folks who had teenaged weddings or where the age of consent is mighty low. If'n we are going to throw rocks at TN for such, there are many others in music and elsewhere who need some rock-age, too.

I must admit the whole "legal guardian" bit is creepifying. If he had married her, a 17YO bride would be no big whoop. TN's excratory draft dodging technique left much to be desired, too.

If Elvis or JLL were alive and started claiming to represent a group of which I am a part I would start excoriating them.

I actually think more people should marry young, and adulthood should start at 16. But he essentially bought that girl, and that's fcked up.

Draft dodging thing don't make me happy either.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2014, 02:02:26 PM »

Quote from: Fitz on March 21, 2014, 12:03:19 PM

That girl was only slightly younger than my wife when we met.

17 isn't egregious, imo. Guardianship is creepy, but its hardly the "kid fiddling" his detractors claim

It was the only way he could travel safely with her. And her folks were cool with it so in the spirit of "liberty" I have no trouble with it either. My first wife and I met she was 14 looked and acted 21. I was 35 and dated a 19 year old with her folks blessing

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Jamisjockey · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:53:43 PM »

Past perceived transgressions aside, he's a loudmouth tool, who is anti freedom in many respects.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2014, 06:09:04 PM »

Quote from: Fitz on March 21, 2014, 11:20:56 AM

Why don't people like Ted, again?

Have you really not heard the offensive, or way-too-easily-misunderstood, stuff he manages to say on a fairly regular basis?

He may be, like Todd Aiken, far less offensive than the opposition, but a level playing field we do not have. We can't afford people like him.

Fitz · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:07:18 PM »

Quote from: fistful on March 21, 2014, 06:09:04 PM

Have you really not heard the offensive, or way-too-easily-misunderstood, stuff he manages to say on a fairly regular basis?

He may be, like Todd Aiken, far less offensive than the opposition, but a level playing field we do not have. We can't afford people like him.

Admittedly, I don't pay a lot of attention to him beyond his music

gunsmith · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2014, 01:03:21 AM »

Quote from: Balog on March 21, 2014, 03:11:45 AM

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/feb/27/ted-nugent/ted-nugent-cnn-i-conduct-federal-raids-dea-and-atf/
Of course, all that pales in relation to the fact that he basically bought an underage girl to have sex with, but still...

how much were they charging for 17 year old "underage" girls back then?
are they still on the market today?

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2014, 01:08:41 AM »

You can get em free in quantity if you are flds

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just Warren · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2014, 01:13:38 AM »

Is Quan5 a sector of the galaxy you're from?

gunsmith · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2014, 04:24:58 AM »

when I was 15 I left home, @ 16 I had an apt, @ 17 I was in boot camp. ...
17 is freaking old enough to kill people for uncle sam, it's old enough to decide "whatever"...

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You can get em free in quantity if you are flds

Or if you're a progressive prison state adherent you think you can control human behavior with cops kicking in your doors and windows.

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