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More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« on: February 23, 2008, 08:53:35 AM »
When Obama spoke in Dallas, the Secret Service ordered Dallas PD to stop screening people at the doors, for weapons.   


http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 09:53:13 AM »
I think the conspiracy nuts on Daily Kos will run with it and make into an OMG IT'S LIKE THE 1960's conspiiiiiiiiracy story.

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 09:59:32 AM »
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 04:08:24 PM »
Either he's bulletproof, or the Secret Service thinks Clinton is still prez!  police
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 09:59:07 PM »
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Either he's bulletproof, or the Secret Service thinks Clinton is still prez!/quote]

Or it shows how Dallas PD views the 2A.

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2008, 01:54:44 PM »
In past months, I've been relating the racist or just odd-ball remarks I've been hearing about Obama from white folk of my acquaintance.  The one I heard last night just beats them all.  I was at my sister's house for a birthday party, with her husband's grandmother in attendance.  My Dad said something about a political bumper sticker, and I said something about Obama.  Then the old lady chimes in with, "Did you know, he's a half-breed?" 

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All I could do was squeeze my eyes shut and pray that the conversation would move on to something else.  Or else I was probably going to lose control of my mouth.   rolleyes  Thank God, someone changed the subject.
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2008, 03:21:23 PM »
And then Nader decides to throw his hat in the ring now that Hillary is sinking. Coincident? I think not. Now it is Obama vs. Nader.

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2008, 04:05:43 PM »
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 04:07:05 PM »
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When Obama spoke in Dallas, the Secret Service ordered Dallas PD to stop screening people at the doors, for weapons.   


http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html

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I think I have my tin foil hat on too tight. Because the very first thing to come into my head was, "If someone were paid to get in with a weapon, and were caught, it gives Obama a media fueled reason to get back on the topic of banning guns"....
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2008, 08:44:01 AM »
In past months, I've been relating the racist or just odd-ball remarks I've been hearing about Obama from white folk of my acquaintance.  The one I heard last night just beats them all.  I was at my sister's house for a birthday party, with her husband's grandmother in attendance.  My Dad said something about a political bumper sticker, and I said something about Obama.  Then the old lady chimes in with, "Did you know, he's a half-breed?" 

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All I could do was squeeze my eyes shut and pray that the conversation would move on to something else.  Or else I was probably going to lose control of my mouth.   rolleyes  Thank God, someone changed the subject.
I understand your discomfiture, but he is 1/2 white, 1/2 African black, making the statement true.

I am a traditionalist who appreciates the, uh, diversity of the English language, so I would use the term mulatto, rather than "half-breed."  Mulatto also has the quality of being more precise with regard to Obama.  A half-breed could be half of anything. 

On the broader point, I don't apply up-to-the-second PC guidelines on elder folks.  Like I wrote, I understand your uneasiness, but just what would you say to such words coming from elders?  The speaker has the advantage of superiority of fact, if not tact.
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2008, 09:33:38 AM »
In past months, I've been relating the racist or just odd-ball remarks I've been hearing about Obama from white folk of my acquaintance.  The one I heard last night just beats them all.  I was at my sister's house for a birthday party, with her husband's grandmother in attendance.  My Dad said something about a political bumper sticker, and I said something about Obama.  Then the old lady chimes in with, "Did you know, he's a half-breed?" 

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All I could do was squeeze my eyes shut and pray that the conversation would move on to something else.  Or else I was probably going to lose control of my mouth.   rolleyes  Thank God, someone changed the subject.
I understand your discomfiture, but he is 1/2 white, 1/2 African black, making the statement true.

I am a traditionalist who appreciates the, uh, diversity of the English language, so I would use the term mulatto, rather than "half-breed."  Mulatto also has the quality of being more precise with regard to Obama.  A half-breed could be half of anything. 

On the broader point, I don't apply up-to-the-second PC guidelines on elder folks.  Like I wrote, I understand your uneasiness, but just what would you say to such words coming from elders?  The speaker has the advantage of superiority of fact, if not tact.
  Actually Mulatto is just saying half black and half white.  I think it is the use of the word "breed" that is offensive.  It kind of makes it seem as if those of another race are a lower species and denigrates them to animal status.  At least in my opinion.

Either way I would just bite my tongue and ignore these people.

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2008, 11:52:18 AM »
He is a half-breed:  1/2 empty rhetoric, and 1/2 nanny-statism.

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2008, 12:02:35 PM »
He is a half-breed:  1/2 empty rhetoric, and 1/2 nanny-statism.

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2008, 02:18:13 PM »
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I would just bite my tongue and ignore these people.

Yeah, that's what I did. 

The term "half-breed" doesn't bother me.  What annoyed me was that, apparently, this person found his heritage to be a scandal, and the most salient fact about him.  That sort of attitude can really get under my skin, and I could feel myself getting ready to chew her out in a way that would have really ruined the evening for all. 


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Actually Mulatto is just saying half black and half white.  I think it is the use of the word "breed" that is offensive.  It kind of makes it seem as if those of another race are a lower species and denigrates them to animal status.

I think that's the common point of view.  But if you think about it, it's quite backwards.  "Mulatto" came from the Spanish word for the mule, an animal that is half-horse and half-donkey.*  When they began referring to mixed-race people as "mulatto," they were calling them mules.  There's your animal status.  Although this term seems to be acceptable today, it is truly very offensive. 

Meanwhile, the perfectly good and honorable term, "Negro," (a Latin word meaning black) is often considered an insult.  "Half-breed" should be no cause for offense, either.  In fact, it is quite a compliment to say that a person has "good breeding," meaning that their family has high social status. 


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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 04:29:00 AM »
I've noticed Obama seems to be getting caught up in his messiahness.  Early on, he had the appearance of being humble and thinking about what he was going to say before saying it.  Now he is beginning to sound like a tent service Baptist minister; he even has them passing out.  I wonder when he's going to start laying on hands.  I can't wait for November.  I think the next few years are going to be really interesting.  If he wins, he'll wind up being a pariah not a messiah to his own party, methinks.

I wonder how McCain will be able to stand up to Obama's charisma in a debate.  McCain needs to be very careful about who becomes his running mate and I hope he has surrounded himself with some smart folks.  If he has the run of the mill egg heads (Bush's advisors) who have no connection with reality, he'll be buried.
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2008, 08:51:04 AM »
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Either he's bulletproof, or the Secret Service thinks Clinton is still prez!/quote]

Or it shows how Dallas PD views the 2A.


That's kind of my thoughts on the whole thing, too.
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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2008, 12:25:01 PM »
Best statement I saw from someone today:

"In the next and likely final debate, an increasingly desperate Hillary will shed her skin, reveal she is really a giant reptile, and eat Obama."

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Re: More fun and frolics with Nobama.
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2008, 12:35:22 PM »
Best statement I saw from someone today:

"In the next and likely final debate, an increasingly desperate Hillary will shed her skin, reveal she is really a giant reptile, and eat Obama."



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