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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2008, 09:48:41 AM »
With McCain we may keep our guns and some semblance of civil liberties.  He is a way of buying time while we get our strategy together for preserving this Republic.

Obama is The Horror arrived, in our midst, present-tense.  A Marxist with, for now, good manners.  His administration stands an excellent chance of dissolving in total civil war.
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2008, 11:56:25 AM »
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His administration stands an excellent chance of dissolving in total civil war.

I wonder what the Vegas odds are on that one.

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2008, 12:21:17 PM »
The only reason to vote McCain is that it gives us potentially 4 more years to buy guns.  Period.

I swear that man is TRYING to make me vote Hillary this fall.

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2008, 03:04:05 PM »
its a terrorist group cause some of these guys are terrified by it
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2008, 05:46:59 PM »
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Why do all ACDC songs sound exactly alike??

THEY DON'T!!!

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I wonder what the Vegas odds are on that one.

I'm going to say +135
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2008, 05:57:41 PM »
I'd just like to ask again:

How many people has La Raza killed?

How many acts of terrorism has it committed?

I still don't see how you earn the label "terrorist" without killing anyone or committing even one act of terrorism.  I guess I'm just "foreign" to this idea too.
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2008, 01:49:54 AM »
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I wonder what the Vegas odds are on that one.

I'm going to say +135

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2008, 12:17:57 PM »
Obama does indeed suck, and he also sucks WAY worse than McCain. 

So.....the qualification for POTUS is now being the person that sucks the LEAST?......

....at least it rules out Lewinski.......  grin

Ummmm.... hold on there. There might be some real benefit to foreign diplomacy having a Prez that sucked . Wink
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2008, 12:28:16 PM »
Let's see what I can find for SS to help him understand that these guys are bad news.

They endorsed the December 18, 2001 "Statement of Solidarity with Migrants," which was drawn up by the National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights.

It opposes the Clear Law Enforcement for Criminal Alien Removal Act (CLEAR), which would empower state and local law-enforcement authorities to enforce federal immigration laws.

As columnist Michelle Malkin reports, La Raza seeks to inculcate young people with its worldview by funding a number of charter schools that advocate ethnic separatism and anti-American, anti-white attitudes. Among these schools are the following:

    * Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, Arizona is "structured and developed around the concepts of identity, culture, and language." It supports local ethnic lobbying efforts "to right social injustices by educating the community and helping create social change." Under the heading "Greatest Achievements," the school's website lists its visit from the Marxist academic fraud Rigoberta Menchu, and its sponsorship of the Mexican holiday Dia de los Muertos.

    * La Academia Semillas del Pueblo is a Los Angeles public school that teaches children "Aztec math" and the Mexican indigenous language of "Nahuatl." The principal, Marcos Aguilar, is an ethnic separatist who told a UCLA interviewer: "We don't want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don't need a White water fountain. & We are not interested in what they have because we have so much more and because the world is so much larger. And ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction."

    * Aztlan Academy in south Tucson seeks "to integrate a meaningful Chicano Studies program into [students'] lives, language, and academics, as a means of developing their intellects as well as their pride and self-esteem." ("Aztlan" is the separatist name for the Southwestern United States that NCLR hopes will someday reunite with Mexico.)

    * The Dolores Huerta Preparatory High School in Pueblo, Colorado is named after the Latina labor union activist who is a Board member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

    * The Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in Saint Paul, Minnesota supports the aforementioned federal DREAM Act.
NCLR also receives funding from the American Express Foundation; the Allstate Foundation; the AT&T Foundation; the Bank of America Foundation; the Carnegie Corporation of New York; the Annie E. Casey Foundation; the Fannie Mae Foundation; the Ford Foundation; the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation; the Joyce Foundation; the W. K. Kellogg Foundation; the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; the Open Society Institute; the David and Lucile Packard Foundation; the Rockefeller Foundation; and the Verizon Foundation.

NCLR's total revenues in 2005 were $25.3 million. Its net assets that year were nearly $52.4 million.

At the March 2008 "Take Back America" conference sponsored by Campaign for America's Future (CAF), NCLR joined CAF and five additional leftist organizations in announcing plans for "the most expensive [$350 million] mobilization in history this election season." The initiative focused on voter registration, education, and get-out-the-vote drives. Other members of the coalition included MoveOn.org, Rock the Vote, ACORN, the Women's Voices Women Vote Action Fund, and the AFL-CIO.

They bad enough for you?

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2008, 05:28:28 PM »
Shootinstudent can't wait for the scenario outlined in Matthew Bracken/Travis McGee's novel "Domestic Enemies". Where the hispanics have taken over New Mexico and are instituting land reforms and killing anyone against them.

"The only reason to vote McCain is that it gives us potentially 4 more years to buy guns.  Period."

That's my view on it as well. Buy 'em up and stack ammo deep.



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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2008, 05:43:08 PM »
Let's see what I can find for SS to help him understand that these guys are bad news.

They bad enough for you?



How on earth does that amount to terrorism?

Sorry, but I don't equate "don't agree with their politics" with "terrorist." 

"Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death."

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2008, 06:18:56 PM »
Shootinstudent can't wait for the scenario outlined in Matthew Bracken/Travis McGee's novel "Domestic Enemies". Where the hispanics have taken over New Mexico and are instituting land reforms and killing anyone against them.

The hispanics are doing this how?
"Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death."

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2008, 07:14:00 PM »
SS I really am starting to wonder about your reasonableness at this point. Lets call a spade a spade here. They are a radical left wing group that wants part of the US the be taken over by Mexico so they can return it to a hispanic racial purity. A Mexican KKK if you will. Do you really think that they would treat followers of Islam better than whitey, cause you got another thing coming if you do. "We don't want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don't need a White water fountain. & We are not interested in what they have because we have so much more and because the world is so much larger. And ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction."-HELLO. No I cannot point out a specific crime of terror that they have committed as of yet, but if Hamas were to move over to my town and not blow anything up, Hamas remains a terrorist organization.
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2008, 10:30:01 PM »
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SS I really am starting to wonder about your reasonableness at this point. Lets call a spade a spade here.

Okay, let's get it straight-I was responding to the label of "terrorist group" being applied to these guys. 

None of what has been posted here is even close to terrorism-there is absolutely no reasonable way to label a group terrorist when it has not committed any acts of terrorism.  Support for leftist policies by itself is not terrorism by any sane definition, and so far that's the only thing I've seen alleged here.

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They are a radical left wing group that wants part of the US the be taken over by Mexico so they can return it to a hispanic racial purity.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this claim is not supported by any reasonable evidence whatsoever. Mind you, that doesn't make La Raza good or all my style; but this line smacks of wildest sort of conspiracy theory.

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No I cannot point out a specific crime of terror that they have committed as of yet, but if Hamas were to move over to my town and not blow anything up, Hamas remains a terrorist organization.

Okay, but if Hamas had never committed an act of terrorism ever, would it still be a terrorist organization???

How would that work?

"Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death."

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2008, 03:24:59 AM »
No I cannot point out a specific crime of terror that they have committed as of yet

so they are terrorist cause you are terrified then?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2008, 04:00:43 AM »
While I generally disagree (to put it mildly) with shootinstudent, I think he's dead on with regards to the "terrorist" label being used here.


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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2008, 05:21:03 AM »
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Support for leftist policies by itself is not terrorism by any sane definition
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Supporters of leftist policies often turn to terrorism, particularly in the poorer countries.

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Shootinstudent can't wait for the scenario outlined in Matthew Bracken/Travis McGee's novel "Domestic Enemies". Where the hispanics have taken over New Mexico and are instituting land reforms and killing anyone against them.

The hispanics are doing this how?

Its a novel.



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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2008, 06:59:52 AM »
I personally never said they were a terrorist group. However, I think they are an extreme group of racists that want to take part of our country and give it away. Sounds like an invasion to me. Kinda like a "lets take back the Rhineland and populate it with good white Germans" except with hispanics.
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2008, 02:48:20 PM »
even were they all you imagine in your fevered nightmares. look around  its the usa  they are allowed to. sorry
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2008, 03:42:30 PM »
I'm sorry I thought supporting an invasion of this country by another country was treason.
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2008, 04:00:48 PM »
well both words do start with t
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2008, 04:20:34 PM »
They are allowed to?  Really?


Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.
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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2008, 04:29:11 PM »
" personally never said they were a terrorist group. However, I think they are an extreme group of racists that want to take part of our country and give it away. Sounds like an invasion to me. Kinda like a "lets take back the Rhineland and populate it with good white Germans" except with hispanics. "

what part of his allegations do you imagine qualifies them for prosecution?  we'll be waiting
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2008, 08:20:22 PM »
So, they are not (yet) terrorists, they are just traitors.  rolleyes You win 1 point on semantics and lose 10 points on patriotism. Your balance: -9. Having the right priorities: priceless.  angel

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Re: McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2008, 08:33:47 PM »
which group of innocent folks? been several
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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