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GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:26:54 AM »
If the Republican Party is going to govern as bad as Democrats, then we may as well elect Democrats.  I did notice that in paragraph 3 they identified the winner as a conservative Democrat. not as a liberal, but we will see if  he stays conservative once he gets to Washington. 


GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
By Reid Wilson
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/gop_stunned_by_loss_in_mississ.html

In a major blow to national Republicans, a Mississippi congressional seat that once voted for President Bush by a twenty-five point margin elected a Democrat on Tuesday. Prentiss County Chancery Clerk Travis Childers beat out Republican candidate Greg Davis, the mayor of Southaven, by a 54%-46% margin, a spread that several Republican strategists on Capitol Hill characterized as a startling wake-up call for a party in dire straits.

Voters cast ballots for the fourth time in three months for the seat, vacated when Republican Roger Wicker was appointed to fill the remainder of Senator Trent Lott's term. After winning the primary and the runoff election, Childers came within 410 votes of winning the first round of the special election against Davis on April 22, beating the Republican by a 49%-46% margin.


 
Last night, Childers, a conservative Democrat, again outperformed Davis in many rural counties. Childers did better than in April in eighteen out of twenty four counties, while he underperformed in just two counties. Childers held steady in three of the remaining counties, while Winston County produced just ten votes. Most importantly, Childers held firm in Lee County, the district's largest and home to Tupelo, winning 58% of the vote, while improving his showing in DeSoto County, Davis's home field. Childers won 25% of the vote in DeSoto County, better than his anemic 17% showing in April.

The results came despite national Republican efforts aimed at winning the seat. Senators Thad Cochran and Roger Wicker, former Senator Trent Lott and Governor Haley Barbour campaigned hard for Davis. On Monday, perhaps as an unfortunate measure of how Republican the district really is, Vice President Dick Cheney held a rally for Davis. Closing the gap in DeSoto County, said Childers pollster John Anzalone, was crucial. "All we were looking to do was to cut the margins there," he said.

The loss has already shaken establishment Republicans in Washington. After losing special elections in Illinois and Louisiana, the House GOP conference already expects a bad year for their party. But those two districts voted for President Bush by eleven and nineteen points, respectively, not by a whopping twenety five points. "People are going to want change," said a top aide to a leading House Republican. "The excuses, that [Davis] didn't have the resources or that he wasn't from the right part of the district, that's just not going to hold up."

In the earlier special elections, Republicans blamed their candidate -- businessman Jim Oberweis in Illinois and former state legislator Woody Jenkins in Louisiana -- for the party's loss. As polls showed Davis losing to Childers, national Republicans began to signal they would blame Davis for being from the wrong part of the district.

But instead of blaming Davis, National Republican Congressional Committee chairman Tom Cole issued a surprisingly blunt statement about his party's own chances, coming a week after a national poll showed Democrats leading Republicans by a wide 50%-32% margin on generic congessional ballot tests. "Tonight's election highlights two significant challenges Republicans must overcome this November," Cole said. "First, Republicans must be prepared to campaign against Democrat challengers who are running as conservatives, even as they try to join a liberal Democrat majority. Though the Democrats' task will be more difficult in a November election, the fact is they have pulled off two special election victories with this strategy, and it should be a concern to all Republicans."

"The political environment is such that voters remain pessimistic about the direction of the country and the Republican Party in general," Cole continued. "I encourage all Republican candidates, whether incumbents or challengers, to take stock of their campaigns and position themselves for challenging campaigns this fall by building the financial resources and grassroots networks that offer them the opportunity and ability to communicate, energize and turn out voters this election."

Still, losing heavily Republican seats in the Deep South is a big blow to the Washington GOP. "To lose two Southern seats in two weeks, I mean, oh my God," the leadership aide said. The aide told Real Clear Politics that something new is going to happen at the NRCC. "People look at Cole, and they say, 'What are you going to do to change?' And if he doesn't want to change, change is going to be forced on him."

A top adviser to a Republican incumbent who has a difficult race in November already says his boss is not looking to the NRCC for the same help he got in 2006. "This chairman badly underestimated how important it is to have top-flight staff," the adviser said, adding that some NRCC staffers are "toiling" under supervisors with less campaign experience. "We had been planning all along to operate without much help from them."

The leadership aide suggested that a former NRCc chairman, Virginia Rep. Tom Davis, could take on a larger role in the coming months. Davis, who is retiring after this session of Congress, ran the committee earlier this decade and currently serves as chairman of the NRCC executive committee. The adviser suggested, instead, that the wounded NRCC presents an opportunity for other members of the caucus to help out their fellow Republicans with political action committee donations, setting up future advancement for themselves.

While Republicans faced a renewed crisis of confidence Tuesday, Democrats celebrated what they said was another failed GOP angle of attack. "These are districts we have no business playing in," said Anzalone, who polled for Democratic winners in both Louisiana and Mississippi. "In ten days, you have two candidates who were attacked at high levels with [Barack] Obama and [the Rev. Jeremiah] Wright, and Nancy Pelosi and all that, and in neither place it worked." National Republicans ran advertisements slamming Childers for associating with Obama, forcing the conservative Democrat to respond with an advertisement asserting he had never met the likely Democratic presidential nominee.

Both parties spent heavily on the district. The NRCC spent at least $1.29 million on the seat, according to Federal Election Commission reports released yesterday, while the DCCC expended $1.84 million in the same race. Democrats point out that, as reported on Politics Nation earlier this week, Freedom's Watch, a group that backs Republican candidates, spent another approximately $500,000 on the seat. Adding insult to injury, Davis, the losing Republican, outspent Childers by a little less than a two-to-one margin. Through April 23, Davis had raised $876,000 and spent $803,000; Childers had raised just $485,000 and spent $419,000.

With more than $44.3 million in the bank after the end of March, Democrats can afford that kind of expenditure in a special election. But with only $7.2 million on hand, the NRCC will not be able to sustain that kind of spending in the future. After spending millions in the three losing special elections, the NRCC is likely to face seriously disappointing fundraising reports for the next several months.

As Childers heads to Washington in the next several days to take the oath of office, Republicans now find themselves at a 37-seat disadvantage in Congress. And with a difficult election coming in November, one in which they will likely find themselves financially and politically outgunned, national Republicans are already making plans for the future. No one, though, is likely to try to force leadership changes before November. "I don't imagine anyone running against Chairman Cole," the adviser to the endangered Republican said. "Because Who would want this job?"


Reid Wilson is an associate editor and writer for RealClearPolitics. He can be reached at reid@realclearpolitics.com

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 05:47:48 AM »
I really believe we're going to see huge Democratic leads in both houses of Congress.
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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 05:48:23 AM »
I really believe we're going to see huge Democratic leads in both houses of Congress.

Ugh.

That means AWB II. Which Hilbama would sign.

Crap.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 05:51:07 AM »
I really believe we're going to see huge Democratic leads in both houses of Congress.

Not so sure.  People hate Congress more than they hate Bush.
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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 06:37:25 AM »
Stunned? You'd have to blind, deaf, dumb and comatose not to see this coming.  And this is just the beginning.  The Republican party is out of touch with the American people, and has been for some time.  And before you jump my *expletive deleted*ss again, so are the Dems.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 06:48:33 AM »
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That means AWB II.
Not necessarily. Pay attention to who these Dems are. Most of them are conservative good old boy democrats that just want to give the working man a hand. I would rather have a democrat that I agree with on 2ndA and know that he will stand up for me, than a wishy washy Republican that is in somebody's pocket.
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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 07:07:23 AM »
Better a Volker than a Taft.

Stupid Party is in for a pounding this November.  I cannot say that they do not deserve it.

Question is just how far President Obama and his Evil Party Congress will go.  Will they get greedy and give us a Republican Congress in '10?  Or will they take the slower train to the Glorious Horizon of Socialism?
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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 07:39:10 AM »
Better a Volker than a Taft.

Stupid Party is in for a pounding this November.  I cannot say that they do not deserve it.

Question is just how far President Obama and his Evil Party Congress will go.  Will they get greedy and give us a Republican Congress in '10?  Or will they take the slower train to the Glorious Horizon of Socialism?

Yes, yes they do. 

But no matter how many "conservative" dems were elected, they still made Pelosi the speaker.  Shows to the character of the Dems.  3rd party votes from me, yet again.
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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 08:06:46 AM »
BTW, Pelosi just supported a new idea for an additional tax on millionaires.

Same old dems.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 09:32:24 AM »
El T,

I expect a mix. I bet they will piss off a lot of people between 08-10, but not enough to shift the balance. However, before 12 I expect the Democrats to be hated and we see a 94 repeat. Major question their is whether the Stupid Party learns from their past mistakes.

I bet in areas of taxation and fiscal issues, we see the Democrats try to bankrupt us. Expect more socialized medicine. I think they will go for more gun restrictions, but will be much slower than they have been. Expect Ginsburg style SCOTUS nominees.

Granted, I don't see it being any better if McCain pulls it off, and worse in the long run. The next 4 years are going to suck.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 01:26:43 PM »
Rockefeller republicans controlling the party think the proper position is more toward the left end of the spectrum.  Moving there opens up positions on the right end of the spectrum.  Democrats wanting to win and control, period, are floating candidates who appeal to voters occupying those now abandoned positions.  Once again the Rockefeller republicans have been out-smarted in their arrogance.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 02:23:49 PM »
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That means AWB II.
Not necessarily. Pay attention to who these Dems are. Most of them are conservative good old boy democrats that just want to give the working man a hand. I would rather have a democrat that I agree with on 2ndA and know that he will stand up for me, than a wishy washy Republican that is in somebody's pocket.

I'd sooner have the whole bloody congress controlled by such dems than one Republican ala McCain in the Whitehouse.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 03:50:07 PM »
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That means AWB II.
Not necessarily. Pay attention to who these Dems are. Most of them are conservative good old boy democrats that just want to give the working man a hand. I would rather have a democrat that I agree with on 2ndA and know that he will stand up for me, than a wishy washy Republican that is in somebody's pocket.

I'd sooner have the whole bloody congress controlled by such dems than one Republican ala McCain in the Whitehouse.

Anyone bother reading Ann's column today? While she is a bit too pro-Stupid party, she does nail quite well why we cannot trust these supposed good ole boy Dems.

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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2008, 06:46:19 PM »
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Anyone bother reading Ann's column today? While she is a bit too pro-Stupid party, she does nail quite well why we cannot trust these supposed good ole boy Dems.
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Re: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 04:07:41 PM »
This means absolutely nothing.

There ARE such things as conservative democrats.  While I am a life-long republican, I have voted for one democrat in our state repeatedly-- Gene Taylor.

Take a look at his voting record on the RKBA and you will start to understand the concept.  Oh, he voted against the FIRST AWB.  I see no reason why a conservative democrat from Mississippi wouldn't do the same.  After all, the fastest way to political death in MS is to come out against the 2nd.



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