Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting

[WLJ]

Could be overblown, don't know

Aaron Katersky
@AaronKatersky
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde ISD police force are no longer cooperating with the @TxDPS
 investigation into the massacre at Robb Elementary and the state’s review of police response, multiple law enforcement sources told @ABC
 
w/ @JoshMargolin

Aaron Katersky
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The decision to stop cooperating occurred soon after Col. Steven McCraw held a news conference Friday during which he said the delayed police entry into the classroom was “the wrong decision” and contrary to protocol

https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/1531741990026629131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Uvalde Police Department ‘no longer cooperating’ with state investigation into the school shooting
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/05/31/uvalde-police-department-no-longer-cooperating-with-state-investigation-into-the-school-shooting/

[Hawkmoon]

Could be overblown, don't know
https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/1531741990026629131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Uvalde Police Department ‘no longer cooperating’ with state investigation into the school shooting
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/05/31/uvalde-police-department-no-longer-cooperating-with-state-investigation-into-the-school-shooting/

Surprise, surprise.

Where's my shocked face? I know I have it around here, somewhere.

[MechAg94]

An animal cruelty/mutilation fetish is a key indicator of psychopathy.

Brad

I remember during the first day there was someone saying that there were no indicators in social media that would have alerted law enforcement.  Sounds like either they weren't looking or this stuff wasn't in the usual places. 

[MechAg94]

Could be overblown, don't know
https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/1531741990026629131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Uvalde Police Department ‘no longer cooperating’ with state investigation into the school shooting
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/05/31/uvalde-police-department-no-longer-cooperating-with-state-investigation-into-the-school-shooting/

I am sure the ones who made the decision to NOT enter the classroom are the ones who ordered that non-cooperation. 

[Boomhauer]

I remember during the first day there was someone saying that there were no indicators in social media that would have alerted law enforcement.  Sounds like either they weren't looking or this stuff wasn't in the usual places. 

They always say that then the next day you find out that indeed there were PLENTY of indicators.

I’m willing to bet this *expletive deleted*ck was very well known to the PD as well they just didn’t want to do anything because it would have hurt their funding and crime statistics. Just like Parkland.

I can’t think of very many active shooters in schools that didn’t fit this mold. It’s never truly a real suprise to the people who know them BUT the authorities have a vested interest in not stopping them

[Bogie]

Besides... politicians need school shootings.
 
"That kid is probably gonna do something stupid, and then we can stop it, and ask for more funding."
 
oops.

[cordex]

I highly doubt that school shootings are specifically maliciously allowed to progress for mercenary reasons.

However, I also don't think that any of the suggested solutions to prevent future school shootings are intended to stop them.  As with many legislative efforts the tragedy is simply a convenient excuse to bring about the laws they wanted to pass anyway.  See PATRIOT act, COVID policy, etc.

[WLJ]

I highly doubt that school shootings are specifically maliciously allowed to progress for mercenary reasons.

However, I also don't think that any of the suggested solutions to prevent future school shootings are intended to stop them.  As with many legislative efforts the tragedy is simply a convenient excuse to bring about the laws they wanted to pass anyway.  See PATRIOT act, COVID policy, etc.

This
Never let a tragedy go to waste

[MechAg94]

I highly doubt that school shootings are specifically maliciously allowed to progress for mercenary reasons.

However, I also don't think that any of the suggested solutions to prevent future school shootings are intended to stop them.  As with many legislative efforts the tragedy is simply a convenient excuse to bring about the laws they wanted to pass anyway.  See PATRIOT act, COVID policy, etc.

I agree with that.  I think their indifference to the deaths and single minded focus on using the tragedy makes it appear to be malicious especially when they roll out their media campaigns without minutes of the tragedy occurring. 

[Ben]

NPR
@NPR
The AR-15 is designed to blow targets apart. Its bullets travel with such velocity that they can decapitate an adult.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/01/npr-does-their-part-to-stop-gun-violence-by-peddling-blatant-disinformation-about-ar-15s/

This is where the unbiased and respected NPR got their information:

https://theintercept.com/2022/05/26/ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-vietnam-war/

All about the AR-15 in Vietnam.

Oh, and The Intercept got their information from Gawker.

[WLJ]

I agree with that.  I think their indifference to the deaths and single minded focus on using the tragedy makes it appear to be malicious especially when they roll out their media campaigns without minutes of the tragedy occurring.

They merely wait for their stage cue, their lines were already scripted.

[Angel Eyes]

[Angel Eyes]

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/01/npr-does-their-part-to-stop-gun-violence-by-peddling-blatant-disinformation-about-ar-15s/

This is where the unbiased and respected NPR got their information:

https://theintercept.com/2022/05/26/ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-vietnam-war/

All about the AR-15 in Vietnam.

Oh, and The Intercept got their information from Gawker.

... and a 9x19 round will blow a lung out of the body ...

[WLJ]

... and a 9x19 round will blow a lung out of the body ...

Biden said THE lung.

[AZRedhawk44]

Won't work, as Jan 6th proves.  Of course there's the argument over the nature of the Jan 6th events but side-stepping that and giving it all the animosity and violence the left attributes to it, the cops did nothing.  Just like Uvalde.

You can't BUY your way out of the problem.

(Yes, I know it's the Bee).

[WLJ]

And they would have to put a fence up and we all know fences don't work

[MillCreek]

They are now rolling back the story about the teacher propping open the door.

[WLJ]

Link?

[WLJ]

Nevermind

They have now determined that the teacher, who has not been identified, propped the door open with a rock, but then removed the rock and closed the door when she realized there was a shooter on campus, said Travis Considine, chief communications officer for the Texas Department of Public Safety. But, Considine said, the door did not lock.

Says confirmed by additional footage

Door Propped-Open by Uvalde Teacher Was Verified Closed Before Gunman Arrived: DPS
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/teacher-closed-propped-open-door-before-uvalde-school-shooting-police/2981940/

[TechMan]

So not good:  https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/01/uvalde-school-district-calls-the-cops-on-reporters/

The school district is calling the police on reporters claiming that their offices are private property and asking the police to criminally trespass the reporters.

[Brad Johnson]

So not good:  https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/01/uvalde-school-district-calls-the-cops-on-reporters/

The school district is calling the police on reporters claiming that their offices are private property and asking the police to criminally trespass the reporters.

School officials need to learn what being a public school really means.

On the other hand, lots of reporters could use a few lessons in respect and decorum.

Brad

[AZRedhawk44]

Nevermind

Says confirmed by additional footage

Door Propped-Open by Uvalde Teacher Was Verified Closed Before Gunman Arrived: DPS
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/teacher-closed-propped-open-door-before-uvalde-school-shooting-police/2981940/

It's still procedural neglect on the part of a unionized and heavily protected workforce.

Chances are the door has one of those push-bars that can be locked in the open position with a hex key through a hole in the push-bar. 



Out of convenience, it was unlocked so that someone could exit and enter repeatedly.  Sounds like the school was having a bunch of classroom parties at the end of the school year and teachers were using the door to bring things in and out.  There's an "informal" way to prop the door open that is taken for granted:  the rock.  Then evidently someone went and requested a more formal unlock procedure from a janitor or groundskeeper, and the door was deliberately unlocked.  But the teacher pool was not unified in knowing exactly how the door was currently secured, or how to go about ensuring it was secured when confronted with a gunman.  And the person who disabled the lock did not respond immediately to the weak point in the security.

That's still a human error.

[230RN]

boomhauer noted,

"I can’t think of very many active shooters in schools that didn’t fit this mold. It’s never truly a real suprise to the people who know them BUT the authorities have a vested interest in not stopping them..."

It's worth thinking about that point.

SWAT pic
   

All that iron would have done more good in the hands of the teachers.

Terry, 230RN

[MechAg94]

California Senate Passes Bill No Longer Requiring Teachers To Report Certain Student Incidents To Law Enforcement
https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-senate-passes-bill-no-longer-requiring-teachers-to-report-certain-student-incidents-to-law-enforcement

I am not sure this is as bad as it sounds, but interesting they would pass this now.

[Ben]

The AR has now been upgraded to "turning people into dust" when shot. That is one magic rifle.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1532021577440706560