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RadioFreeSeaLab

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Love it or Leave It, an article
« on: February 20, 2007, 02:30:36 PM »
http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traffic_Jams/love_it_or_leave_it_article.mp3
An article by Stefan Molyneux, owner of freedomainradio.com, rebutting the "love it or leave it argument."
Personally, love it or leave it people make me want to go insane with rage.


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Re: Love it or Leave It, an article
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 05:50:17 PM »
What are "love it or leave it" people?

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Re: Love it or Leave It, an article
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 06:20:25 PM »
People who reply to criticism of the government, president, a political party, the war, or anything "american" with "if you don't love america, you can get out."  Or, "if you hate is so much, just leave"

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Re: Love it or Leave It, an article
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2007, 03:36:33 AM »
There are many areas in which government and our leaders can, and should, be criticized . . . so long as the criticism is constructive, and represents an honest effort to improve things.

Teddy Roosevelt wrote much the same thing almost a hundred years ago.

But when some say "America is worse than Nazi Germany" or express support for Osama Bin Ladin or demand that Sharia law be applied within their own community  . . . or immigrants that refuse to learn English or make any effort to assimilate or any of a number of other things which are purely destructive . . . at some point, it would be best if they left.
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Re: Love it or Leave It, an article
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2007, 03:50:58 AM »
Hank is correct.  I don't usually approve of "love it or leave it" either, but there are some people who display such disdain for the political and social customs of the U.S., and who paint such a dismal picture of life in this country, that they really should have left some time ago.  It makes perfect sense to ask why they are still here. 
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Re: Love it or Leave It, an article
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2007, 06:07:35 AM »
Bottom Line:

"Love It or Leave It," as a threat, is nothing but fascism: "If you don't like something, you have no right to say anything about it, and if you do we'll make you leave."

As a suggestion, though, it makes perfect sense. "If it's so f---ing terrible here, go find someplace better and stop f---ing it up for the rest of us, who kinda like it."
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Re: Love it or Leave It, an article
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2007, 07:19:59 AM »
There are many areas in which government and our leaders can, and should, be criticized . . . so long as the criticism is constructive, and represents an honest effort to improve things.

Teddy Roosevelt wrote much the same thing almost a hundred years ago.

But when some say "America is worse than Nazi Germany" or express support for Osama Bin Ladin or demand that Sharia law be applied within their own community  . . . or immigrants that refuse to learn English or make any effort to assimilate or any of a number of other things which are purely destructive . . . at some point, it would be best if they left.
Yep, pretty much my position. 

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