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Title: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: T.O.M. on January 10, 2021, 09:16:48 AM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127?s=1&r=17

Bill introduced in the House.  Website doesn't have text available yet, but the title says a lot.  Bill for the registration of firearms and ammunition, and prohibition of certain ammunition.

Now, this one likely is not going far.  Single sponsor, a Dem from Texas.  But the game is on.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2021, 09:35:56 AM
Sheila Jackson Lee. Of course.

On the tangent, and this is something I need to educate myself on, but does anyone know how much leeway individual states have in telling them to get bent for certain of this legislation if/after it passes?
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: Ron on January 10, 2021, 10:00:30 AM
President-elect Joe Biden on Friday promised to “defeat the NRA,” or the National Rifle Association, after being sworn into office.

 “Your perseverance and immeasurable courage continue to inspire me and millions of others. I pledge to continue to work with you—and with survivors, families, and advocates across the country—to defeat the NRA and end our epidemic of gun violence.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-says-he-will-defeat-the-nra-while-in-office_3650623.html

Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: WLJ on January 10, 2021, 10:19:36 AM
President-elect Joe Biden on Friday promised to “defeat the NRA,” or the National Rifle Association, after being sworn into office.

 “Your perseverance and immeasurable courage continue to inspire me and millions of others. I pledge to continue to work with you—and with survivors, families, and advocates across the country—to defeat the NRA and end our epidemic of gun violence.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-says-he-will-defeat-the-nra-while-in-office_3650623.html



The NRA died a while back

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Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: French G. on January 10, 2021, 10:26:57 AM
First, SJL introduces the same *expletive deleted*it every year. Second, the NRA is doing a handy job defeating itself and we don't care.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 10, 2021, 10:30:53 AM
How quickly they forget that most of the country isn't Dem-controlled large metro areas. They're also stupifyingly blind to who and how any such regulation would be enforced. Kinda hard to gen up support among the enforcers when a big chunk of  them are also the targets.

Too bad the NRA is eating it's own right now. Unless Wayne and a few key senior execs get tossed out, it'll likely implode.

Brad
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2021, 11:06:23 AM
One thing I'm kinda worried about is suppressors. They seem like an easy target that will also get "sacrificial" votes from some Rs.

I have a can in jail right now. My first two got out in 7 months. If I get that lucky again, this one will be out in March. Were any ban legislation to pass, I'm kinda guessing guys with cans in jail will be as SOL as anyone who hasn't gotten one yet.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: MillCreek on January 10, 2021, 11:12:48 AM
^^^Would you get your money back, do you think?
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2021, 11:58:06 AM
^^^Would you get your money back, do you think?

That's what I was wondering. At that point, I guess it would be up to the individual gun store. I mean,  I bought the product and it's not their fault it became illegal. I don't know what gun stores would do with all the cans they were holding for ATF clearance. I would hope the gov would refund my $200, but you never know there either anymore.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: French G. on January 10, 2021, 12:39:12 PM
One thing I'm kinda worried about is suppressors. They seem like an easy target that will also get "sacrificial" votes from some Rs.

I have a can in jail right now. My first two got out in 7 months. If I get that lucky again, this one will be out in March. Were any ban legislation to pass, I'm kinda guessing guys with cans in jail will be as SOL as anyone who hasn't gotten one yet.

I gotta actually pretend to be a machinist to make a proper barrel if I don't have a blank or a throwaway to re-purpose. Supressors are about the easiest thing to make if we decide that all rules are called off.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate... HR 127
Post by: T.O.M. on February 06, 2021, 12:23:12 PM
Bringing this back from the dead, because I'm feeling a bit more concerned about this.  Not only is it not dead yet, but it seems to be getting some traction.  My social media has all of the gun types (Colion Noir, Military Arms Cha nel, etc) suddenly all paying attention to it.  The Dems at work are explaining how this would be a good thing, and an $800 per gun registration fee is not Unconstitutional.

This thing have a chance?
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate... HR 127
Post by: WLJ on February 06, 2021, 12:25:02 PM
Bringing this back from the dead, because I'm feeling a bit more concerned about this.  Not only is it not dead yet, but it seems to be getting some traction.  My social media has all of the gun types (Colion Noir, Military Arms Cha nel, etc) suddenly all paying attention to it.  The Dems at work are explaining how this would be a good thing, and an $800 per gun registration fee is not Unconstitutional.

This thing have a chance?

I'll agree to a $800 fee per gun when they agree to a $800 fee per vote.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: RocketMan on February 06, 2021, 06:26:29 PM
Bringing this back from the dead, because I'm feeling a bit more concerned about this.  Not only is it not dead yet, but it seems to be getting some traction.  My social media has all of the gun types (Colion Noir, Military Arms Cha nel, etc) suddenly all paying attention to it.  The Dems at work are explaining how this would be a good thing, and an $800 per gun registration fee is not Unconstitutional.

This thing have a chance?

The Dems have to pack the SCOTUS before they try to pass this bill.  Too much of a chance, I'm guessing more than 60%, that it would be struck down by the current court.  And they will pack the court at some point.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
The Dems have to pack the SCOTUS before they try to pass this bill.  Too much of a chance, I'm guessing more than 60%, that it would be struck down by the current court.  And they will pack the court at some point.

It might go to a packed court. SCOTUS has been kind of terrible about accepting 2nd Amendment stuff. By the time something like this would even get to the point of being a SCOTUS case, they could easily have had enough time to add five or so libs to the court, and I bet they would then take the case in a heartbeat, since the majority would have already predetermined their verdict.
Title: Re: And the first batter has stepped up to the plate...
Post by: MechAg94 on February 06, 2021, 07:19:25 PM
The Dems have to pack the SCOTUS before they try to pass this bill.  Too much of a chance, I'm guessing more than 60%, that it would be struck down by the current court.  And they will pack the court at some point.
I think it is very likely this is the Bad Cop bill.  I figure there will be other bills put in with lesser gun controls to act as the Good Cop and get more votes from R's or nervous Dems.