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Title: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Manedwolf on March 12, 2008, 10:48:11 PM
And why do the Democrats love him so much? Who pays him, and for what?

All he seems to do is run around being a loud, obnoxious guy with a voice performance ripped off from Malcolm X and minister stereotypes, blathering and demanding about things that are completely mistaken or wrong, with throngs of supporters following him.

Like this quote from today, when Hillary responded about Ferraro's comments on Obama only being where he is because of his race:

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"I want to put that in context. You know I am sorry if anyone was offended. It was certainly not meant in any way to be offensive," Hillary Clinton said. "We can be proud of both Jesse Jackson and Senator Obama."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jDDT3Q7CS6Gd9WvC4P6qeGsMIHpwD8VC90B00

Where did Jackson come from there? Did she even realize that in fact that's sort of belittling to Obama, tossing him in with Jackson the loudmouth just because both are the same skin color? On second thought...perhaps she did.

But what does Jackson DO for a living, anyway? He seems to do boneheaded things and get money for them? Like last year, when he led a group of protesters to demand the closure of DS Arms (!) in Illinois. Because, you know, restored FALs are the gangsta drive-by gun of choice! (That's all DS produces.)
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Pew pew pew on March 12, 2008, 10:49:17 PM
He's an extortionist.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Standing Wolf on March 13, 2008, 01:21:50 AM
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He's an extortionist.

Officially speaking, he's a ministerunless, of course, I'm being repetitively redundant and/or redundantly repetitive.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: seeker_two on March 13, 2008, 01:33:43 AM
He's an extortionist.

No.....he's just an indirect beneficiary of corporate welfare.....
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 13, 2008, 02:03:44 AM
we call him the reverend pay to play
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Declaration Day on March 13, 2008, 02:05:07 AM
He's a race-baiter.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: roo_ster on March 13, 2008, 02:10:58 AM
Lumping JJ & BHO together is appropriate.

Neither has had a real job in their lives and have made a living agonizing/speaking/writing about the melanin content of their skin.

JJ was always a "community activist" and graduated to shakedowns of corporations in exchange for not staging demonstrations against the.

Obama started in the same place, "community activist," and has gone on to politics.

Neither one would know how to do an honest day's work to provide something of actual use to another human being.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 13, 2008, 02:31:28 AM
his lowest move was returning to chicago in the blood stained shirt and the "i cradled him in my arms as he died" line of bs after the king assasination. kings family had nothin to do with him for decades as a result
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Bigjake on March 13, 2008, 03:13:53 AM
He's the black, less obnoxious version of Fred Phelps.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 13, 2008, 03:17:31 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_jackson

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In 1965, he participated in the Selma to Montgomery marches organized by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights leaders in Alabama. When Jackson returned from Selma, he threw himself into Kings effort to establish a beachhead of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) in Chicago.

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He caused a stir in 1995 when he wrote to the FOX network protesting an episode of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers in which the "White Ranger" said "White Power" as a battle-cry. Jackson later retracted his statement, but FOX nonetheless censored the line in future airings.

 laugh


Basically he started off good, and then slowly became evil.  Much like fistful.
 laugh
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: The Rabbi on March 13, 2008, 07:36:58 AM

All he seems to do is run around being a loud, obnoxious guy with a voice performance ripped off from Malcolm X and minister stereotypes, blathering and demanding about things that are completely mistaken or wrong, with throngs of supporters following him.


Thats about the best summation I've seen anywhere.  You've answered your own question.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: seeker_two on March 13, 2008, 12:33:16 PM

Basically he started off good, and then slowly became evil.  Much like fistful.
 laugh


Fixed it for you....  grin
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: jrfoxx on March 13, 2008, 03:52:46 PM
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What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
You mean, other than whine, and moan about racism, while being a GIANT,hypocritcal racist himself, and tossing down his laminated, gilded, race card whenever the mood strikes him,regardless of any facts? Well, other than that, I'd say he does.....nothing.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 13, 2008, 04:07:00 PM
he makes a lotta money
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Waitone on March 13, 2008, 04:48:28 PM
He's a shakedown artist.  He finds inside an organization (preferably one with really deep pockets) and a person or group that believes it has been wronged.  You pick the person or group and the wrong.  Using his contacts in the media he is able to get sensational media play of the alleged wrong.  After the episode has had a chance to marinate in the public he approaches the target offering possible solutions to the alleged wrong and possible ways to make the victims whole.  Some of the services he provides is that of media consultation.  He is able to reason with local and national media and get them to go quiet on the entire flap.  Generally there is a comparatively small payout to the alleged victim.  A parallel track in correcting the wrong is for the organization to give generously to foundations which battle the alleged wrong.  Curiously, Jackson is the head of a number of such foundations which have benefited richly from organizations seeking to expiate their political sins.  Occasionally lucrative business arrangements have come out as a way of correcting past wrongs.  I reserve the right to be wrong but I believe Jesse provided a means of expiation of social sins committed by Anheuser Bush.  Seems a rather large and lucrative distributorship in the Chicago area was curiously awarded to Jesse Jackson, Jr. somewhat later.  Junior later ran for and was elected to congress.  Great gig!
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Tecumseh on March 13, 2008, 07:02:05 PM
Lumping JJ & BHO together is appropriate.

Neither has had a real job in their lives and have made a living agonizing/speaking/writing about the melanin content of their skin.

JJ was always a "community activist" and graduated to shakedowns of corporations in exchange for not staging demonstrations against the.

Obama started in the same place, "community activist," and has gone on to politics.

Neither one would know how to do an honest day's work to provide something of actual use to another human being.
  Not true at all.  Obama is more respectable than JJ in my opinion.  He is a politician and not a community activist.  I do believe he was a teacher as well.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: De Selby on March 13, 2008, 07:14:16 PM
He's like Pat buchanan or Noah Goldberg-a talking head for his party's fundamental supporters.

Mainly what he does is go around "drawing attention to the issues!", ie, making something out of nothing.  Just like the rest of the secular clergy.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: christopher on March 13, 2008, 10:01:33 PM
waitone is correct, he runs protest for hire or pay us not to protest actually. the reason clinton had to say both is jackson ran for president & the comment could've slammed both but as you point out it also gave her a way to put them both in the same sentence. but all of her race baiting has back fired.
there's alot of intelligent threads here, i'm glad you guys found me.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 14, 2008, 06:17:38 AM
He certainly makes a lot of money off of the not-for-profit organizations that he runs. 
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Balog on March 15, 2008, 01:11:01 PM
Because, you know, restored FALs are the gangsta drive-by gun of choice! (That's all DS produces.)

They do a lot more than just resto FAL's. They make entire new guns, as well as a line of AR's. They also import a knockoff of an old Steyr machine pistol.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Manedwolf on March 15, 2008, 01:19:06 PM
Because, you know, restored FALs are the gangsta drive-by gun of choice! (That's all DS produces.)

They do a lot more than just resto FAL's. They make entire new guns, as well as a line of AR's. They also import a knockoff of an old Steyr machine pistol.

The point was that they do not supply gangs with drive-by toys, as Jackson was claiming when he demanded they be closed. (Like a typical gangsta could even figure out a FAL?) They do not make things that "kill young people". They make quality stuff for people who know what they're doing with it, I don't think they have a single rifle under $1k. And AFAIK, nothing they've ever sold has ever been used in a crime. That didn't stop Jackson. 
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 15, 2008, 01:23:01 PM
.  Obama .................................  I do believe he was a teacher as well.

You believe, or you know?
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Silver Bullet on March 15, 2008, 03:56:28 PM
Shake down artist.
 
Less than ten years ago JJ met with the CEO of Boeing to shake down the aircraft giant.  I remember scratching my head, thinking 1) what the heck does JJ have on Boeing, and 2) even if he has something, how can he leverage it with a threat of a boycott  commercial and military aircraft arent bought up by the general public.
 
As I recall, 1) JJ did get some money out of Boeing, and 2) shortly after that Boeing moved their headquarters from Seattle (headquarters for 85 years) to Chicago, home of JJ.
 
Interesting coincidence.
 
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Waitone on March 16, 2008, 10:52:49 AM
Great book, here!
http://www.amazon.com/Shakedown-Exposing-Real-Jesse-Jackson/dp/0895261081/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205696974&sr=8-2

Provides chapter and verse on Je$$e's schtik.  After reading the book I get the distinct feel he is able to get away with his actions because someone amongst the federales is afraid to pursue him in court.  Sorta makes we wonder what other kind of scam he is running.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: LadySmith on March 17, 2008, 02:07:17 AM
Found an interesting article that addresses the issue:

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0401jackson.htm

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Cypress Semiconductors chief T.J. Rodgers calls Jackson's strategy a "shakedown." Rodgers has been publicly outspoken against Jackson since his company was accused last spring of racist hiring policies, despite the company's diverse workforce. Rodgers says Jackson gives business leaders a simple way to "repent" -- cough up money -- to avoid being labeled racist.
Indeed, when Rodgers rebuffed Jackson's hard-ball tactics and publicly defended the diversity of Silicon Valley's workforce, Jackson announced, "We can now officially describe Cypress Semiconductor as a white-supremacist hate group."

T.J. Rodgers is a legend around where I work because he rebuffed Jacksons efforts. From what I've heard, he basically told Jackson to kiss his @ss and kicked him off his property. His business continued to thrive, perhaps even more so, afterwards.

Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: keeleon on March 19, 2008, 08:09:00 AM
I always kind of wondered this myself.  I am surprised no one has mentioned the "Naggers" episode of South Park yet.  In it Randy goes to offer his apology to JJ, and he makes him kiss his butt to apologize.  And of course Token, intelligently points out that JJ is not the king of black people and doesn't represent them all.  But that is basically what he thinks he is.  He is the ambassador and any outrage or apology needs to be addressed by him personally.  Of course usually in the form of cash payments.  I always thought the whole "cash settlement" thing was serious BS.  If your whole issue is that you were treated unfairly, then the logical solution would be that you just be treated fairly, not treated better because of your skin color.  Kind of like that fireman in SoCal that got 1.5 million for being fed dog food as a prank.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Tecumseh on March 20, 2008, 08:19:14 AM
I have a question. why isn't anyone bitching about the head of the KKK or the Aryan Nations?  I would think they are far worse for the country, I mean afterall they are an older Christian terrorist organization?  The KKK has been here and harmed far more people than Jesse Jackson.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: keeleon on March 20, 2008, 08:25:25 AM
I have a question. why isn't anyone bitching about the head of the KKK or the Aryan Nations?  I would think they are far worse for the country, I mean afterall they are an older Christian terrorist organization?  The KKK has been here and harmed far more people than Jesse Jackson.

Wow, why am I not surprised that it was Tecumseh with that response.  No one is bitching about them, because I'm pretty sure no one here likes them or looks up to them to begin with.  They promote themselves as hate organizations right off the bat.  They don't try and convince us that they just want what is "fair".  They are very open in that they want all people they "disagree" with for whatever reason simply gone, or dead.  But JJ LIES to the people, and he connives about what he actually wants.  He tries to say that his is a defender of "justice", but he just wants to complain that the "black man is getting a raw deal".  You are very correct in that the KKK has harmed more people, but guess what, so has the US Army, and since neither of those has anything to do with the discussion at hand, you are completely out of line for bringing it up.

But of course if you don't, who will, right?  For the children, of course.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Waitone on March 20, 2008, 02:03:16 PM
Well, for one thing it is hard to have a Klan meeting without having an FBI informant either attending or running the meeting.  It is so thoroughly penetrated it is essentially neutered.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 21, 2008, 05:07:46 AM
Who is head of the KKK and Aryan Nation?  I don't have any idea nor do I care.  I can't remember ever seeing one of them on a news show talking about race relations either. 
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Scout26 on March 21, 2008, 07:31:01 AM
JJ is an extortionist par excellence.  He goes to various companies and basically says "I think your racist and if you don't give me (or Rainbow/PUSH) a huge pile of money as a donation, then I'll go on TV/Radio and organize boycotts and just create all kinds of bad publicity for your company.  It'll drive down your profits and shareprices.  He makes the Mafia look like pikers when it comes to paying "protection money".
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Declaration Day on March 21, 2008, 12:32:19 PM
I have a question. why isn't anyone bitching about the head of the KKK or the Aryan Nations?  I would think they are far worse for the country, I mean afterall they are an older Christian terrorist organization?  The KKK has been here and harmed far more people than Jesse Jackson.

I've been waiting to make this point for a long time, Tecumseh.  Almost every time a topic comes up where someone / some group is being criticized, you come in and ask why someone or something else isn't being criticized.

So here's your answer, now and for the rest of the time you manage to remain a member of this board: 

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW!


If you want to start a thread about why we should hate the KKK, Jesus, Christianity, or Mickey Mouse, BY ALL MEANS, START IT!

Good lord, you remind me of a five-year-old, whining that life is not fair because his cup has 1/4 inch less Kool-Aid than his brother, or that he only got 45 Jolly ranchers when the other kids got 46.

Stop trying to subvert the course of threads on this forum.  There's a reason why you were given a time out.
Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Manedwolf on March 21, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
Declaration Day, thank you.

I'd honestly wanted to start a discussion on why Jackson, who seems to indeed be a shakedown artist with no legitimate income, is not only loved by the media, but never questioned in his actions or his obvious wealth.
The attempt to derail the thread into "but why aren't you complaining about (unrelated subject)" was annoying.

Title: Re: What does Jesse Jackson DO, anyway?
Post by: Barbara on March 21, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
Extortionist is the best description I've ever seen.

There are a lot of things to dislike about Obama, but I don't see them as the same at all..