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Title: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: wmenorr67 on December 27, 2016, 12:31:54 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/34134320/new-missouri-law-could-make-school-fights-felonies

Well the state of Missouri has once again taken a step off the deep end.

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if the victim suffers “emotional distress” from harassment, which is also considered a form of bullying, the perpetrator could also be charged with a felony.

So now words can cause you to be charged with a felony if the special snowflakes have their feelings hurt.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 27, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
I just can't possibly imagine that being abused in any way.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: MikeB on December 27, 2016, 12:54:15 PM
If it's enforced the way bullying and fighting was when I was in school, the actual bullies will never be seen doing anything, excused because they come from a broken home or excused because they are on the football/basketball/what have you team and the actual victims when they finally decide to defend themselves will be the ones prosecuted.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 27, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
The way they were doing it when my kids were still in school is that both parties involved in a "fight" were guilty and would receive the same punishment.
Except that being "involved in a fight" included such vile acts as getting sucker punched in the back of the head, getting the *expletive deleted*it kicked out of you while curled up in a ball on the ground, and having your arms held back by one person while the second one used the third one for a punching bag. Basically they treated being the victim of an unprovoked attack as being "involved in a fight".
There were a few law suits over that stuff but I never heard how they came out.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: lee n. field on December 27, 2016, 01:37:14 PM
As with others, I don't think much will come of this.  The school mostly want quiet.  Ignoring bullying is part of that.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: Ben on December 27, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
If it's enforced the way bullying and fighting was when I was in school, the actual bullies will never be seen doing anything, excused because they come from a broken home or excused because they are on the football/basketball/what have you team and the actual victims when they finally decide to defend themselves will be the ones prosecuted.

Yup. I got picked on a lot in elementary school. The times I was able to fight back, I found myself in the Principal's office with her saying her favorite phrase: "It takes two to start a fight."

 
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 27, 2016, 01:57:29 PM
I don't know if it's off the deep end so much as hypothetical unintended consequences of a law that may need to be revised. This is the first I've heard about it.

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The changes stem from legislation passed in 2014 that also increases maximum fines for felonies and misdemeanors and creates a fourth degree of assault. The changes do not mention schools, and it’s unclear how schools and law enforcement will interpret them.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/schools-say-students-could-be-charged-as-felons-for-bullying/article_1ae5e5a1-491a-5c43-b131-7e60fd474b59.html
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: wmenorr67 on December 27, 2016, 01:59:53 PM
My son was bullied quite a bit in middle school and nothing was done about it until he made a comment about killing the kid or wishing he was dead, the bully.  That got him sent to the principal's office and eventually expelled from that school.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: HankB on December 27, 2016, 02:55:17 PM
Yup. I got picked on a lot in elementary school. The times I was able to fight back, I found myself in the Principal's office with her saying her favorite phrase: "It takes two to start a fight."

 
And did you lean across the desk and slap her face, since SHE would have been one of the two to start that fight?  >:D
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: Monkeyleg on December 27, 2016, 05:48:33 PM
I was in a lot of fights in school, although I don't know why. But nobody ever stepped in. Not a teacher or principal or vice principal. The fights were always outside the school. The most that would happen inside the building is a punch would get thrown.

I'm always amazed when someone I know tells me he was never in a fight. It just seems like something every guy should have experienced.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: KD5NRH on December 27, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
And did you lean across the desk and slap her face, since SHE would have been one of the two to start that fight?

I once gave a former associate a hell of a hook to the short ribs while he was yelling at his kid about how "ain't nobody gonna just up and hit you unless you did somethin' to 'em to deserve it."

Don't know if he got the point, but he did shut up.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: MikeB on December 27, 2016, 09:38:09 PM
Yup. I got picked on a lot in elementary school. The times I was able to fight back, I found myself in the Principal's office with her saying her favorite phrase: "It takes two to start a fight."

 

Fighting back causes it to be a fight vs. a beating of course. Who would be surprised that public schools often seemingly allow beatings to be administered by the student body to those who don't appear to 'conform' or appear to be 'weaker'? It's just good training for a future good socialist subject is it not?
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 27, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/34134320/new-missouri-law-could-make-school-fights-felonies

Well the state of Missouri has once again taken a step off the deep end.

So now words can cause you to be charged with a felony if the special snowflakes have their feelings hurt.

Stop the world ... I want to get off.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: zxcvbob on December 27, 2016, 10:32:34 PM
Fighting back causes it to be a fight vs. a beating of course. Who would be surprised that public schools often seemingly allow beatings to be administered by the student body to those who don't appear to 'conform' or appear to be 'weaker'? It's just good training for a future good socialist subject is it not?

I have often said that the bullies and the administration are secretly on the same team.  Thought I'd let someone else say it this time, and that was close enough ;)
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: MechAg94 on December 27, 2016, 11:40:35 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/34134320/new-missouri-law-could-make-school-fights-felonies

Well the state of Missouri has once again taken a step off the deep end.

So now words can cause you to be charged with a felony if the special snowflakes have their feelings hurt.
People need to realize that the special snowflakes are often the teachers and administrators who want to hide behind laws and school policies.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 27, 2016, 11:53:21 PM
People need to realize that the special snowflakes are often the teachers and administrators who want to hide behind laws and school policies.

It's actually the schools that are complaining about this change in the law.
Title: Re: Fighting In School Is Now A Felony
Post by: KD5NRH on December 28, 2016, 09:50:27 AM
It's actually the schools that are complaining about this change in the law.

Because if they keep calling the police to deal with every minor scuffle, the kids get taken away, presumably along with the attendance-based funding.