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Apple Puts DRM in Macbook & Macbook Pro Hardware
« on: November 20, 2008, 11:17:50 AM »
MS puts the DRM into the OS, but Apple one-ups them in the DRM-race by placing it in the HW.

I was disinclined to buy Apple hardware before.  Now I am whatever is less inclined than disinclined to buy Apple hardware.

Apple fanboys will no doubt consider it a feature.

From another angle, it seems that the media has to be DRM/HDCP aware for this to work. 

I swore off pirated content or apps years ago, but pirated content is NOT DRM/HDCP aware, so I may find myself:
1. Finding pirated HD content & downloading it, to ensure I can play it wherever
2. Buying the HD content to assuage my delicate sensibilities




Apple brings HDCP to a new aluminum MacBook near you

By David Chartier | Published: November 17, 2008 - 03:52PM CT

High Definition Content Protection (HDCP)—you can't live with it, but you practically can't buy an HD-capable device anymore without it. While HDCP is typically used in devices like Blu-ray players, HDTVs, HDMI-enabled notebooks, and even the Apple TV in order to keep DRMed content encrypted between points A and B, it appears that Apple's new aluminum MacBook (and presumably the MacBook Pro) are using it to protect iTunes Store media as well.

When my friend John, a high school teacher, attempted to play Hellboy 2 on his classroom's projector with a new aluminum MacBook over lunch, he was denied by the error you see above. John's using a Mini DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter, plugged into a Sanyo projector that is part of his room's Promethean system. Strangely, only some iTunes Store movies appear to be HDCP-aware, as other purchased media like Stargate: Continuum and Heroes season 2 play through the projector just fine. Attempts to play Hellboy 2 or other HDCPed films through the projector via QuickTime also get denied. Other movies that don't work include newer films like Iron Man, Star Wars: Clone Wars, and Love Guru, but older films like Shawshank Redemption are restricted as well.

The technology in Apple's MacBooks that prevents a seemingly arbitrary collection of iTunes Store files from being played on HDCP non-compliant devices is perhaps more accurately called DPCP, or DisplayPort Content Protection. As we've covered in the past, DisplayPort was designed as an open, extensible standard for computers that offers lower power consumption over DVI (especially in the Mini DisplayPort format that Apple uses on the new MacBooks). But more importantly, DisplayPort also beats DVI in the studios' books by offering the option of 128-bit AES encrypted copy protection.

All of the tested files are wrapped in the same iTunes Store FairPlay Version 3 DRM, save for Stargate: Continuum, which John says has version 2. While Apple's own Apple TV has used HDCP to protect video files playing from its HDMI port, this is the first time we've heard of Apple bringing HDCP DPCP to its hardware. (It has, however, been brought to our attention that other users have been complaining about this in Apple's discussion forums for a couple of weeks.)
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Re: Apple Puts DRM in Macbook & Macbook Pro Hardware
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 11:23:10 AM »
No, that's not a feature. Jobs needs to be smacked for that until he reconsiders. That's stupid.

It will be knocked out by a firmware patch from users within days of release (like my DVD drive now is region-free), but it is still stupid.

I often plug my Pro into large screens via its DVI port to show things.

Technically, the guy was breaking the FBI rules that have been at the intro of every DVD and videotape since the 1980's, though. Commercial movie, public exhibition, not allowed.

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Re: Apple Puts DRM in Macbook & Macbook Pro Hardware
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 11:33:45 AM »

I swore off pirated content or apps years ago, but pirated content is NOT DRM/HDCP aware, so I may find myself:
1. Finding pirated HD content & downloading it, to ensure I can play it wherever
2. Buying the HD content to assuage my delicate sensibilities


While I think that solves the moral dilemma (you're paying for the content you use), the stupid thing is that it's illegal. Even circumventing the copy protection on stuff you've bought legally (for example, burning a song from iTunes and ripping it back to your hard drive unprotected) is technically illegal. Copyright laws and especially DRM have just gotten ridiculous.


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Re: Apple Puts DRM in Macbook & Macbook Pro Hardware
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 12:41:07 PM »
MS puts the DRM into the OS, but Apple one-ups them in the DRM-race by placing it in the HW.

I was disinclined to buy Apple hardware before.  Now I am whatever is less inclined than disinclined to buy Apple hardware.

This is not unique to Apple. HDCP enabled video cards have been out for a while and are pretty much the only option to play Blu-Ray and other protected media classes on PCs.

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It will be knocked out by a firmware patch from users within days of release (like my DVD drive now is region-free), but it is still stupid.

I wouldn't count on it. HDCP's been around for quite a while and there's still no good workaround. There have been claims that it's been broken, but as of now, the only workarounds are stripping out the HDCP handshake with an intermediary device between the display and the player and stripping HDCP protection from the content. The former risks key revocation while the latter doesn't exactly give plug and play style simplicity.
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Re: Apple Puts DRM in Macbook & Macbook Pro Hardware
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 12:51:54 PM »
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This is not unique to Apple. HDCP enabled video cards have been out for a while and are pretty much the only option to play Blu-Ray and other protected media classes on PCs.

I've never had any trouble playing torrented Bluray rips. Now that BD+ is broken, i expect to be able to enjoy hi-def blurays, even on my linux machine with mplayer.

I WOULD buy them, like I buy DVDs, but I'm just not going to pay more money for an inferior product. If they sold the movies DRM free, I would buy them.

It's not like HDCP stops people from pirating now that they can just rip the discs. If they couldn't rip the discs, AND couldn't break HDCP, you could always image a good projector setup with a HD video camera, while recording the sound output. This can actually give rather good quality. It's impossile to stop the pirates. It's so stupid.
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Re: Apple Puts DRM in Macbook & Macbook Pro Hardware
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 05:54:56 PM »
It's not like HDCP stops people from pirating now that they can just rip the discs. If they couldn't rip the discs, AND couldn't break HDCP, you could always image a good projector setup with a HD video camera, while recording the sound output. This can actually give rather good quality. It's impossile to stop the pirates. It's so stupid.

HDCP is just the modern version of Macrovision. All it was supposed to do is provide a barrier so that Joe Blow can't hook his Blu-Ray player up to a digital recorder and produce a high quality copy to give to his friend. All in all, it's worked spectacularly and there's really no market for HD recorders as there was for VCR recorders. HDCP was never meant to stop hobbyists or commercial piracy.

That was the job of AACS/BD+ and it may have even worked if the Blu-Ray consortium was smart about it. Completing the copy protection standard before format release and removing PC software-based playback would have made the format much more difficult, if not completely impractical, to break. There are a lot more software hackers than silicon hackers running around...

That'd leave the good 'ole analog hole available for exploit, but again, you'd still be greatly reducing the number of individuals capable of creating pirate copies. Maybe even to the point where prosecution could successfully put a damper on the whole activity.