FBI says modern 9mm equals .45 ACP performance

[HeroHog]

9mm man, even carried 9mm Largo and 9mm Winchester Magnum! Never owned Winchester 9x23 but always lusted after a 1911 in .38 Super.

[Hawkmoon]

I'd definitely prefer a .45 or 10mm 1911 if I'm hiking in say wolf or lion country, to handle both man and beast, but might prefer 18 rounds of 9mm available in downtown Detroit.

I'll take my 14 rounds of .45 ACP over your 18 rounds of 9mm. (Yes, I own and sometimes carry a Para-Ordnance double stack.)

I also own a 9mm ... and a .380 ACP. I don't consider myself to be unarmed with either, but I prefer .45 ACP.

[MillCreek]

Just today, as we took the dog to the groomer, went out to breakfast, and then to Hobby Lobby, I had my Taurus poly protector loaded up with five rounds of 125 grain .357 JHP in a IWB holster. And this is for my sleepy town 40 miles north of Seattle.  I cannot carry the five days a week when I am at my healthcare job in downtown Seattle.

[230RN]

Five-shot .38 J-frame in pocket, eight-shot 9mm CW9 on belt.

Gives me a total of 4.625" of bullet diameters.

I rarely carry the 1911 anymore.  It only gives me 3.608" of bullet diameters, total.

[MikeB]

I would prefer to carry a .45 1911, but I rarely do. In fact most of the time I'm only carrying a .22Mag NAA PUG. Sometimes you have to carry what you can carry and I figure any gun is better than no gun. My work frowns on carrying, it's extremely unlikely I would ever be found to be carrying with the NAA in my pocket. Something larger in my pocket or on my belt could be to easy to accidentally expose for example while on a ladder, crawling under a desk, presenting in a meeting, or whatever else I may have to do in site of other people.

When I'm not at work I usually carry a SIG P938, it's more comfortable to carry than a full size 1911 yet has more or less the same manual of arms and feel as well as a similar trigger pull. I'm not that concerned about the difference in so called stopping power between 9mm and .45 ACP, but if I was one to open carry I would choose a 1911, but maybe in 9x23 instead of .45.

[K Frame]

And .22LR.

No, I've retired the Taurus.

At the moment I'm carrying an S&W 042 Airweight Centennial exclusively.

I want to add my 38 Airweight Bodyguard (humpback) into the mix but I've not had it to the range yet to make absolutely certain that it fires when I pull the trigger.

[Doggy Daddy]

Five-shot .38 J-frame in pocket, eight-shot 9mm CW9 on belt.

Gives me a total of 4.625" of bullet diameters.

I rarely carry the 1911 anymore.  It only gives me 3.608" of bullet diameters, total.

Could you translate that over to the more commonly used and more relevant "total of cross-sectional areas"?       

[230RN]

Could you translate that over to the more commonly used and more relevant "total of cross-sectional areas"?        

No.  Numbers^{up in air} jellify brain.

Relevant:

Gun.

.38/9mm

Bang.

Bad guy "Ow!"

Gun.

.45

Bang.

Bad guy "Ow!"

Gun.

.22 Mag NAA PUG

Bang.

Bad guy "Ow!"

Relevant: Bad guy "Ow!"

Terry, 230RN

[HeroHog]

Shot Placement for the win men.

[BobR]

All this talk about 9mm and .45, meh.

Get a 10mm and call it good.

bob

[Fly320s]

Get a 10mm and call it good.

bob

10mm is just .40S&W Long.  Change my mind.

[dogmush]

Meh.  All this talk of follow on shots.  Use enough gun.

https://youtu.be/nax7El5hIHg?t=155

[Ben]

When I get to Idaho I'm going to turn into Lucian Connally and start carrying my Vaquero .45LC in a crossdraw. That'll be enough gun. 

[just Warren]

Bah! To All this caliber-war stuff. I don't even bother with a gun anymore.

i carry a pair of small but obviously rabid monkeys in a basket with me at all times.

It has increased my personal level of security to a level I had not previously enjoyed as people will not even come near me now. 

"Don't go near the monkey-man." "Don't look at him...or them...in the eyes." "Dear God, the stench." "Let's just go."  I hear them whisper to one another.

People will also get out of whatever line I happen to join which means my wait times at all manner of places has been reduced to almost nil.

So keep your guns! I've found the killer app for personal protection!

[Angel Eyes]

All this talk about 9mm and .45, meh.

Get a 10mm .500 S&W Magnum and call it good.

bob

Fixed.

 

[K Frame]

I've been toying with the idea of carrying the S&W .40 I picked up a couple of years ago.

This past weekend a friend gifted me nearly 300 rounds of high quality Speer and Winchester HP ammo.

Now I just need a range trip to make sure it feeds in my gun...

[BobR]

Fixed.

 

Well it does come in a pocket carry version. Big pockets of course.



bob

[T.O.M.]

I remember reading dozens of magazines back in the 80s and 90s about "one shot stop" capability of the various calibers, and I remember thinking that shooting multiple rounds on target would increase those odds substantially.  In other words, shoot until the threat ends.  So, I carry a 9mm because I can shoot it faster and more accurately in a handgun I can carry daily.  Yes, some times my wardrobe requires a .38 or .380, and with more range time I could shoot a .45 as well as I shoot a 9mm, but for now, I'm going with the 9mm, the best HP ammo that shoots well in my guns, and feeling okay about it.

[Fly320s]

You logic has no place here.  Begone, foreigner!

[brimic]

The John Ross .500 was made for carry, hunting, bear defense....

http://www.gunblast.com/LT_SW-JohnRoss500.htm

[BobR]

The John Ross .500 was made for carry, hunting, bear defense....

http://www.gunblast.com/LT_SW-JohnRoss500.htm

I remember when S&W made two survival kits, bear defense packages. One was the 500 S&W (Orange box and grips) and the other was the S&W 460 (Yellow box and grips). Both were sub 3" barrels. I don't think they did very well in the market place because they disappeared fairly quickly from the catalog.

bob