Author Topic: Vampire Suicide (Read 6358 times)

Ned Hamford · « **on:** October 10, 2012, 12:50:30 PM »

Was chatting with an office mate when my background music mix played Jonathan Coulton's Blue Sunny Day. http://youtu.be/AQtZJQtBe8E

Sooo... Vampire Suicide... What say you? General assumption; non-sparkly kind. Human blood is either required for life or gives such a craving it is just a matter of time no matter the willpower.

All life is Sacred, Even Unlife
Seems the decent thing to do; or is otherwise a valid personal choice

Also, how does one setup a poll?
edited from can one setup a poll

Scout26 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2012, 01:01:21 PM »

Yes, you can setup polls. (if you can't modify it, PM me with what you want and I'll change it.)

And anything that requires human flesh* to survive (and turning others into the undead, especially if it's your Mother-in-Law) deserves to die.

* Yes, I know there are dust mites and microbes that eat human flesh and/or co-habitat the human body. Most provide a useful function, it's when they cause problems that they need to die.

SADShooter · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2012, 01:10:05 PM »

Immediate thread veer: Jonathan Coulton's "Millionaire Girlfriend" was the first track of his I heard. Still cracks me up.

On topic: Vampire equals direct existential threat. Buh-bye.

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2012, 01:38:01 PM »

Oh, wait!

This is if yourself got turned into a vampire and you suicide to save others cause your dead?

My answer changes somewhat in that case. Only if I'm with people I like and am gareenteed to eat/kill them.

Otherwise, aw hell no! I'm gonna live forever! MuWAHAHAHAHA!

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2012, 02:13:49 PM »

It seems like the decent thing to do.

(Assuming you can't procure the human blood/flesh ethically).

roo_ster · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2012, 02:33:41 PM »

Quote from: MicroBalrog on October 10, 2012, 02:13:49 PM

It seems like the decent thing to do.

(Assuming you can't procure the human blood/flesh ethically).

ditto

dogmush · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2012, 03:13:56 PM »

Every predator (Humans included) kills other creatures to survive. Just because I moved up the food chain a rung that doesn't change. I think I'd stick around for a while.

Besides there's A LOT of people in this world I could eat before I got around to someone that didn't deserve it. Might have to move to Chicago for ease of hunting.

roo_ster · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2012, 03:30:36 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on October 10, 2012, 03:13:56 PM

Every predator (Humans included) kills other creatures to survive. Just because I moved up the food chain a rung that doesn't change. I think I'd stick around for a while.

Besides there's A LOT of people in this world I could eat before I got around to someone that didn't deserve it. Might have to move to Chicago for ease of hunting.

A point to consider.

SADShooter · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2012, 03:42:22 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on October 10, 2012, 03:13:56 PM

Every predator (Humans included) kills other creatures to survive. Just because I moved up the food chain a rung that doesn't change. I think I'd stick around for a while.

Besides there's A LOT of people in this world I could eat before I got around to someone that didn't deserve it. Might have to move to Chicago for ease of hunting.

I confess I am forced to reevaluate my preconceptions...

Regolith · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2012, 03:49:39 PM »

It kind of depends. How much control do you have over your actions? If we're going MHI style vampires, you're basically gone; once you're a vampire you are completely subsumed by it, and you (or at least your body) pretty much become evil. In that case, you'd not be able to commit suicide even if you wanted to (or, alternatively, your sense of morality would be warped so you wouldn't want to).

If you were more like Blade/Angel/(possibly)Supernatural vampires, and were able to somewhat control your actions, then you have more options. If you can control your cravings and/or pick your targets, there is something to be said for becoming a vampiric Punisher, or perhaps a Blade/Angel-type vampire who hunts down other monsters that aren't so picky. OTOH, if you can't control your cravings, and you pretty much loose your *expletive deleted* whenever you're around normal humans, then yeah, suicide becomes pretty attractive at that point.

Tallpine · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2012, 03:51:05 PM »

Quote

Might have to move to Chicago for ease of hunting.

My tastes run higher than that.

Jocassee · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2012, 04:05:36 PM »

Damnit where IS that case of silver-infused 7.62 I ordered from Romania?

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2012, 04:16:50 PM »

Quote from: Regolith on October 10, 2012, 03:49:39 PM

It kind of depends. How much control do you have over your actions? If we're going MHI style vampires, you're basically gone; once you're a vampire you are completely subsumed by it, and you (or at least your body) pretty much become evil. In that case, you'd not be able to commit suicide even if you wanted to (or, alternatively, your sense of morality would be warped so you wouldn't want to).

If you were more like Blade/Angel/(possibly)Supernatural vampires, and were able to somewhat control your actions, then you have more options. If you can control your cravings and/or pick your targets, there is something to be said for becoming a vampiric Punisher, or perhaps a Blade/Angel-type vampire who hunts down other monsters that aren't so picky. OTOH, if you can't control your cravings, and you pretty much loose your *expletive deleted* whenever you're around normal humans, then yeah, suicide becomes pretty attractive at that point.

Mostly this, althougth I would hesitate to say that the changes in personal morality would be a reason. Becoming a mindless eating machine is one thing (30 days of night or John Carpenter type) but the "warped values" arn't actually warped anything. You've changed species, so what's warped to a human isn't so warped to a vampire.

As a human, with human values I would rather not be killing my friends or family or people who I think are decent folks. As a vampire I may gain a totally diffrent perspective which would make doing those things alright.

It's a pickle.

Scout26 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2012, 04:39:06 PM »

Quote from: Jocassee on October 10, 2012, 04:05:36 PM

Damnit where IS that case of silver-infused 7.62 I ordered from Romania?

Only works on werewolves and the like. No effect on Vampires.

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2012, 04:56:58 PM »

Quote from: scout26 on October 10, 2012, 04:39:06 PM

Only works on werewolves and the like. No effect on Vampires.

Depends on,the mythology used. Sometimes silver is used on Vampires and sometimes holy symbols have no effect, depending on the writer.
I think using silver on Vampires stems from using holy relects melted down into weapons.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:16:14 PM »

Full auto shotgun firing wooden bolts made from support beams of ancient Jesuit monastery for the win.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:34:26 PM »

This is not a poll, Ned. You forgot to ask a question.

White Horseradish · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:37:34 PM »

Quote from: scout26 on October 10, 2012, 01:01:21 PM

* Yes, I know there are dust mites and microbes that eat human flesh and/or co-habitat the human body. Most provide a useful function, it's when they cause problems that they need to die.

Vampires can provide a useful function. High blood pressure is rampant these days.

Quote from: MicroBalrog on October 10, 2012, 02:13:49 PM

(Assuming you can't procure the human blood/flesh ethically).

Given the number of goth girls (and guys) that would willingly feed you I can't see that being a problem at all.

Quote from: dogmush on October 10, 2012, 03:13:56 PM

Every predator (Humans included) kills other creatures to survive. Just because I moved up the food chain a rung that doesn't change. I think I'd stick around for a while.

Besides there's A LOT of people in this world I could eat before I got around to someone that didn't deserve it. Might have to move to Chicago for ease of hunting.

This.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:45:42 PM »

Can the vampire eat the blood of animals like in some of the movies I have seen or just humans?

There was a movie from a few years back that wasn't all that well known. Vampirism was discovered as a "health enhancement" and most people converted. But there was a shortage of human blood and normal humans were getting hunted down and converted to living blood banks.

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:47:35 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on October 10, 2012, 05:45:42 PM

Can the vampire eat the blood of animals like in some of the movies I have seen or just humans?

There was a movie from a few years back that wasn't all that well known. Vampirism was discovered as a "health enhancement" and most people converted. But there was a shortage of human blood and normal humans were getting hunted down and converted to living blood banks.

Seems to me, the only movie Vampires that eat animals are the "goody goody" twighlight types.

I don't want to glitter.

Tallpine · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:48:21 PM »

I thought vampires just drank a non-lethal amount of the victims' blood, but the bite infected the victim with vampirism

I just can't keep up with all the mythical creatures

vaskidmark · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:49:37 PM »

Quote from: White Horseradish on October 10, 2012, 05:37:34 PM

Given the number of goth girls (and guys) that would willingly feed you I can't see that being a problem at all.

But aren't they a) one-time use only and b) then in competition with you for blood (and with most-likely lower standards about who to not get it from?

I personally subscribe to the theory that says in order to "kill" them you must drive a stake through their heart and it must contact the earth. Of course the other method, preventing them from returning to the soil from their grave, also has both merit and fascination (as well as at least theoretically lessening the chance of actual contact exposure).

As regards vampire suicide - I just do not see that level of despondency occurring.

stay safe.

Strings · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:53:33 PM »

I think you're mythtaken there, VA

vaskidmark · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2012, 06:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Strings on October 10, 2012, 05:53:33 PM

I think you're mythtaken there, VA

If I am, I'll be around tonight to let you know.

stay safe.

TommyGunn · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2012, 06:40:09 PM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on October 10, 2012, 05:49:37 PM

But aren't they a) one-time use only and b) then in competition with you for blood (and with most-likely lower standards about who to not get it from?

I personally subscribe to the theory that says in order to "kill" them you must drive a stake through their heart and it must contact the earth. Of course the other method, preventing them from returning to the soil from their grave, also has both merit and fascination (as well as at least theoretically lessening the chance of actual contact exposure).

As regards vampire suicide - I just do not see that level of despondency occurring.

stay safe.

Sunlight kills vampires pretty effectively. It did in the one in NOSFERATU post haste.

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