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Mushrooms are good for you
« on: June 20, 2011, 09:48:05 AM »
http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/16/magic-mushrooms-can-improve-psychological-health-long-term/#ixzz1PVzGm973

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The psychedelic drug in magic mushrooms may have lasting medical and spiritual benefits, according to new research from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.

The mushroom-derived hallucinogen, called psilocybin, is known to trigger transformative spiritual states, but at high doses it can also result in "bad trips" marked by terror and panic. The trick is to get the dose just right, which the Johns Hopkins researchers report having accomplished.

In their study, the Hopkins scientists were able to reliably induce transcendental experiences in volunteers, which offered long-lasting psychological growth and helped people find peace in their lives — without the negative effects.

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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2011, 09:50:25 AM »
Headline ought to be:
Grad Students Love Tripping On Shrooms In Taxpayer-Funded Study
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 10:03:06 AM »
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is known to trigger transformative spiritual states

I'm dubious that this is a good thing.
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 10:16:54 AM »
I will be very interested to watch further developments in this field.  The legitimate clinical research into the use of psychedelics has taken a long time to recover from the excesses of several decades back.  Hopefully someday they can be of benefit in the treatment of PTSD and other psychological traumas. 
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 10:39:32 AM »
Headline ought to be:
Grad Students Love Tripping On Shrooms In Taxpayer-Funded Study

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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 11:12:29 AM »
Headline ought to be:
Grad Students Love Tripping On Shrooms In Taxpayer-Funded Study

Just curious, but because of the WoSD laws in place, could a private commercial entity even attempt this sort of testing?  It seems that the current legal environment precludes anyone but .gov (and those funded by .gov via grant) from testing in this manner.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 11:13:02 AM »
i'd pay to volunteer in about 16 years
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 11:17:27 AM »
Just curious, but because of the WoSD laws in place, could a private commercial entity even attempt this sort of testing?  It seems that the current legal environment precludes anyone but .gov (and those funded by .gov via grant) from testing in this manner.

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 11:25:06 AM »
Mushrooms are good for you

Doesn't that depend upon whether or not the moon was out the night they were picked?    >:D
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2011, 11:32:23 AM »
You are likely correct.

there is probably a way to landshark a "native american" religious exemption
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 11:39:20 AM »
there is probably a way to landshark a "native american" religious exemption

Without resolving the root issue.

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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 11:59:46 AM »
IDK if the psiloscybin  shrooms popular with trippers are indigenous, I know north America has plenty of psychedelic shrooms, in the early 80's parties I went to in Seattle shroom tea was everywhere.

In a proper setting shrooms can probably induce or mimic a spiritual experience.

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2011, 12:46:32 PM »
You are likely correct.

Some years ago when I did some consulting for an institutional review board, the FedGov had extraordinary requirements for clinical research on psychedelics, which are otherwise illegal for any clinical purpose in this country.  Very, very strict security, scope of research and consent requirements.   I wonder if any private entity or pharma manufacturer would even be eligible to get the research exemption to allow a study.
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2011, 05:13:37 PM »
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In a proper setting shrooms can probably induce or mimic a spiritual experience

All I can say is that A Black Oak Arkansas concert at a state fair is not one of those those.

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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2011, 05:25:22 PM »
All I can say is that A Black Oak Arkansas concert at a state fair is not one of those those.

If it is the Arkansas State Fair, you'd best stay sober and keep your wits about you.  Hallucinogens are contraindicated.
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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 05:34:24 PM »
It was probably more spiritual for the biker couple making love next to me on the bleachers...but kinda hellish for me. Was Illinois though.

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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 06:07:43 PM »
Does it matter if they are good for you? That seems to presuppose that they are banned because they are bad for you, when that's obviously not the reason.
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2011, 06:10:39 PM »
But in California everything is bad for you.  Everything tends to cause cancer in California.  Ever think that it is California that causes the cancer? ???
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2011, 07:15:41 PM »
worst place ever to do hallucinogenics? jail.  i had a heck of a time keeping it together through booking. after that it was "interesting"
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2011, 08:37:08 PM »
And this is surprising?
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2011, 12:47:09 AM »
worst place ever to do hallucinogenics? jail.  i had a heck of a time keeping it together through booking. after that it was "interesting"

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Re: Mushrooms are good for you
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 08:25:00 AM »
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which offered long-lasting psychological growth and helped people find peace in their lives — without the negative effects.
I wonder who defines what is psychological growth and peace?  Somehow I think some of those people would define those things very differently from me.
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