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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: vaskidmark on August 01, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
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http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/pure-evil-obamas-union-goons-picket-childs-funeral-harass-mourners/
How depraved can these lefties get? Picketing funerals now? We thought this was the domain of bottom-feeding scum like the Westboro Church, but now apparently greedy union thugs are getting in on the act.
A judge ordered one of Chicago’s most politically powerful labor unions to suspend picketing against 16 funeral homes last week after receiving reports that striking Teamsters had, among other things, disturbed a child’s funeral.
SCI Illinois Services, Inc., one of the nation’s largest funeral home chains, asked a district court to intervene after striking funeral directors and drivers with Teamsters Local 727 allegedly harassed grieving families.
“We are grateful that the court agreed to issue this temporary restraining order, and we are hopeful that it will help protect grieving families who are experiencing the most difficult times of their lives,” Larry Michael, managing director for SCI Illinois Services, Inc., said in a release. “While we recognize and respect the Teamsters’ right to lawfully picket, we have been shocked and saddened by their attempts to make grieving families the target of the cruel and outrageous attacks.”
The company testified in its filing that union members blocked grieving family members from leaving its parking lot, used bullhorns to shout obscenities at workers and mourners, and unleashed a German Shepard on a dead woman’s daughter and husband.
I don't know, and don't care, what they are striking about. There are certain things that Should Not Be Done. Siccing a dog on mouners is on that list. As are pretty much everything else they are reported to have done.
stay safe.
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. . . union members blocked grieving family members from leaving its parking lot . . .
Parking lot implies vehicles - and the pickets I've seen have all been pedestrians. Unless these would-be kidnappers used vehicles themselves to block egress, I don't understand how pedestrians could stop vehicles and effectively imprison the motorists.
. . . unleashed a German Shepard on a dead woman’s daughter and husband.
In TX, odds are Fido would have been put down right then and there.
Which is why we seldom see this kind of cr@p here - protesters know there's a line they cross at their own peril when confronting private citizens; noise and rudeness are broadly protected by the 1st Amendment, but things like physical attacks? Uh-uh.
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Just another example of how some unions are effectively organized crime.
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At first I thought this was a duplicate thread. :laugh:
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One begins to feel that unions should be outlawed again, at least until the current organizations can be eradicated. If the nation regains it senses, perhaps then it will be safe to organize labor, w/o the thuggery.
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One begins to feel that unions should be outlawed again, at least until the current organizations can be eradicated. If the nation regains it senses, perhaps then it will be safe to organize labor, w/o the thuggery.
Unlikely. The thuggery has been ever-present with the Unions in this country.
It's like saying maybe we can have the mafia without crime. (Or unions without crime... but I repeat myself.)
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Parking lot implies vehicles - and the pickets I've seen have all been pedestrians. Unless these would-be kidnappers used vehicles themselves to block egress, I don't understand how pedestrians could stop vehicles and effectively imprison the motorists.
I'm going to guess that the mourners didn't have the heart to just run over them after a funeral.
Unlikely. The thuggery has been ever-present with the Unions in this country.
It's like saying maybe we can have the mafia without crime. (Or unions without crime... but I repeat myself.)
Unions can and have served a purpose.
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I keep thinking that one of these days WBC or some other group is going to "protest" the wrong funeral.
I wonder how well a temporary insanity plea would hold up after some grieving parent or husband or family member whacked half a dozen WBC types right after a funeral protest?
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Unions can and have served a purpose.
Even when they did, they did so using tactics of violence and thuggery. That it matched or was matched by violence and thuggery on the part of their opposition does not change the basic nature of their operation.
Unions presuppose and perpetuate a contentious relationship between employee and employer. Even the very positive components of some (but certainly not all) unions today such as training, safety, and quality control, barely mask an underlying current of compulsion and threat of force, to say nothing of their socialist political support.
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Setting aside the union issue a moment, what kind of human protests/pickets at a funeral? You basically have a family at their lowest, and you then basically you kick them. The idiots of the Westboro church spring to mind, but these idiots are no better. I really wonder sometimes how it is the members of the Westboro church are still alive...
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Even when they did, they did so using tactics of violence and thuggery. That it matched or was matched by violence and thuggery on the part of their opposition does not change the basic nature of their operation.
Unions presuppose and perpetuate a contentious relationship between employee and employer. Even the very positive components of some (but certainly not all) unions today such as training, safety, and quality control, barely mask an underlying current of compulsion and threat of force, to say nothing of their socialist political support.
You mean there exists a union today that actually champions and enforces training, safety, and quality control? I haven't heard of it.
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You mean there exists a union today that actually champions and enforces training, safety, and quality control? I haven't heard of it.
www.natca.org
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Setting aside the union issue a moment, what kind of human protests/pickets at a funeral? You basically have a family at their lowest, and you then basically you kick them. The idiots of the Westboro church spring to mind, but these idiots are no better. I really wonder sometimes how it is the members of the Westboro church are still alive...
These idiots are actually worse. They are holding the families hostage in order to win more money for themselves...
Wait, that's exactly what the Westboro ghouls are doing, they just pretend it's for another reason.
Nevermind! They're the same.
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You mean there exists a union today that actually champions and enforces training, safety, and quality control? I haven't heard of it.
Exclusively, no, but even from my anti-union perspective I do have to say that many of the trade unions do a relatively good job with training within their industry.
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I did a little more googling on this to see if I could find any comment from the Teamster's side.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-07-25/business/chi-funeral-home-strike-20130725_1_teamsters-funeral-homes
A spokesman for the Teamsters, Brian Rainville, said the accusations were without merit.
"They’re feeling the pain from business going down and they’re making false allegations," he said. "The court didn’t make any indication that these allegations were true -- the court basically did nothing but say ‘obey the law,’ which is what we’re doing."
I'd be curious to see if anyone has taken video of the picketers doing anything the funeral home claims they've been doing?
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Setting aside the union issue a moment, what kind of human protests/pickets at a funeral? You basically have a family at their lowest, and you then basically you kick them . . .
Sociopaths.
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Having worked with Chicago Local 705 Teamsters, nothing in this story surprises me. Their picket lines makes Westboro look like an Blu-Haired Old Ladies Sunday Afternoon Quilting Bee.
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I was really disappointed when UPS didn't break the Teamsters.
However, I predict that I'll get to see them do some serious buggy-whip screaming as automation comes to trucking in the not too distant future. Although, maybe they'll get an even cushier deal if some fed.gov/DOT regulation requires a warm body to sit there with an override button. :P
Longshoremen too. Although their grip on the shipping industry by the tight-n-curlies via the "bad pain now, as a disincentive to getting rid of us later" is a bit tighter. They delayed the standardized shipping container by a few decades IIRC.
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Having worked with Chicago Local 705 Teamsters, nothing in this story surprises me. Their picket lines makes Westboro look like an Blu-Haired Old Ladies Sunday Afternoon Quilting Bee.
much truth!!!
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You mean there exists a union today that actually champions and enforces training, safety, and quality control? I haven't heard of it.
CWA isn't too bad as far as workplace issues are concerned. I have seen very little of any adversarial issues between labor and management. The 1 or 2 that I have seen were more of an individual's issue than a management position. As far as their politics goes, *expletive deleted*ck 'em.
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I did a little more googling on this to see if I could find any comment from the Teamster's side.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-07-25/business/chi-funeral-home-strike-20130725_1_teamsters-funeral-homes
A spokesman for the Teamsters, Brian Rainville, said the accusations were without merit.
"They’re feeling the pain from business going down and they’re making false allegations," he said. "The court didn’t make any indication that these allegations were true -- the court basically did nothing but say ‘obey the law,’ which is what we’re doing."
I'd be curious to see if anyone has taken video of the picketers doing anything the funeral home claims they've been doing?
Business going down? They're funeral homes, pretty secure client base, only thing could be migration to lower cost disposal options, which they can also cover. Cremation's cheaper sure, but now you can buy less $90K hearses and hire less thugs to drive them.
Re. Automation in trucking, technology not terribly far off, public will to use the tech, gonna be a long time. Some smart boy will insist on dedicated roads for them which ought to be a boon to the corrupt union infested heavy construction industry. And yeah, much like a train engineer, there would be a stoopid human to watch over things. More likely is more and more transport companies will keep their hubs in right to work states.
As far as unions, they would cease to exist if employers treated their employees as a valuable asset instead of an expensive consumable. And if employees cared about the company beyond payday. But intangibles don't generate metrics, so don't do 'em.
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As far as unions, they would cease to exist if employers treated their employees as a valuable asset instead of an expensive consumable. And if employees cared about the company beyond payday. But intangibles don't generate metrics, so don't do 'em.
Employers treating employees like a resource to be expended is a major part of what causes employees to treat the job like "just a job". Throw the unions into the mix and you end up with parasitic feedback.