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The Roundtable / Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
« Last post by MechAg94 on Today at 02:26:23 PM »
I haven't been there, but my employer was operating a reformer plant in Mexico.  I don't know where exactly.  The engineers who went down there had to have security wherever they went. 

Of course, at some point in the last year or two, the Govt of Mexico decided to take over the site and kicked my employer out. 
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The Roundtable / Re: Lost on the Appalachian Trail
« Last post by 230RN on Today at 02:15:16 PM »
Dogmush related:

"Going down her checklist she asked what we had for supplies. I said "It was only supposed to be a day hike so not all that much. We're down to 6 liters of water, two gallon bags of trail mix, cheese and meat, fire starter, 4 space blankets, some 550 cord, 3 flashlights, one headlamp, our phones,  two battery banks for the phones, good knife, standalone GPS, map, compass., and first aid kit"  There was a solid 5 count pause, and she was like ' Okaaaaay, seems like you have enough to make it to tomorrow if you need to.'"

Heh-heh.  Wisecrackey me would have said "I should call you if I need rescuing!"

I'll never forget my Noo Yawk Scoutmaster showing us how to start a fire at one of those really really rainy Jamborees in upstate Noo Yawk. (Yes, along or nearby the Appalachian Trail.)

Everybody was having trouble starting a fire and good ole Scoutmaster Larry gathered us to gether around our little soaking wet correctly assembled fire pile and asked us what the Boy Scout Motto was.

"Be prepared!"

Then he pulled a can of Ronsonol out of his pack and dribbled a little onto the wet plie of tinder, and touched a match to it.

Voila!  We were the only ones who got a fire started in such short order.

Be prepared.  Noo Yawk style.
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 01:49:20 PM »
And apparently the cease fire deal Hamas has "accepted" makes absolutely NO mention of all of the hostages that they're keeping.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-approve-framework-cease-fire-agreement-israel

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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by WLJ on Today at 01:38:15 PM »
Boom usually means no
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by BobR on Today at 01:35:25 PM »
Being reported Hamas has accepted a crease fire deal. No word yet on what the other side in this has to say about that.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-approve-framework-cease-fire-agreement-israel

Watching some live stuff on Newsmax right now and with the number of aircraft flying over to Gaza and the sounds of explosions I would venture to say they have not accepted the ceasefire as of now.

bob
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by WLJ on Today at 01:26:29 PM »
Being reported Hamas has accepted a crease fire deal. No word yet on what the other side in this has to say about that.

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The Hamas terrorist group announced Monday that it has accepted a cease-fire agreement brokered by Egypt and Qatar to end the war against Israel in the Gaza Strip.

It released a statement saying its leader Ismail Haniyeh "had a phone call with the Qatari Prime Minister, Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman Al-Thani, and with the Egyptian Minister of Intelligence, Mr. Abbas Kamel, and informed them of the Hamas movement’s approval of their proposal regarding the ceasefire agreement."

There was no immediate response from Israel. The fate of the hostages still in Hamas' possession following its Oct. 7 attack on Israel that launched the war remains uncertain.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-approve-framework-cease-fire-agreement-israel
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The Roundtable / Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 01:22:00 PM »
Interesting.

Maybe they decided that after the murder they'd better just burn the truck to get rid of any possible evidence? Taking the tires would definitely leave a possible trail that could be associated with the murderers.

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The Roundtable / Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
« Last post by BobR on Today at 01:20:01 PM »
I can't find any indication that that picture was supposed to be a picture of THE truck involved.

I think it's just a stock photo of a truck that looks like it's been involved in mayhem.

That could be but CNN is showing a much closer picture of the same truck. We may never know because this is already moving toward old news and will soon go away completely.

bob
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The Roundtable / Re: Lost on the Appalachian Trail
« Last post by AZRedhawk44 on Today at 01:19:42 PM »
It's interesting that this popped up this weekend.  I actually taught a land navy class to my unit at Drill this weekend.  One of the "this is why it matters to you stories" was a SSG (E6) that got lost last year doing land nav at Ft. Jackson and died 50 m outside the land nav course.

And yes, I am super atypical for most people I know going into the woods but between my time in Alaska, and basic Murphy protection, I'd rather carry more than I have to. The line between civilization and dying alone in the woods is often very thin, and less than a 20 min walk from where you meant to be.

FYI, you can go to www.caltopo.com and print topo maps free, of anywhere in the US and take one with you, just in case.  I use 1:50,000 and MGRS because I like it, but you can play with your grid overlay and scale to your hearts content. Free. No reason not to have a map.


Funny story: Mrs. Mush, my mother, and I flew to Vegas a couple years back to climb Mt. Charleston. Like 16 mile round trip and 6500ish feet up. Mrs mush got food poisoning the night before, but we tried the hike anyway.  She also got a touch of altitude sickness when we got over 10,000'. When we turned around, we were already late, and by the time we got to like 7 miles from the car, things were going bad. Mrs. Mush was that part of hypothermic where she was trying to take clothes off, storm had come in with 35 or so kt winds on the ridge we were on, dark was like 2.5 hours away, and we were moving 1.5 mph or so.  It was decided that I'd go ahead to a high point get some cell service and call 911 to let Rescue know that we were at least out there, and what was going on.

Made the call, talked to a very professional lady at mountain rescue dispatch, told here we were still moving but we might end up stuck out here. Going down her checklist she asked what we had for supplies. I said "It was only supposed to be a day hike so not all that much. We're down to 6 liters of water, two gallon bags of trail mix, cheese and meat, fire starter, 4 space blankets, some 550 cord, 3 flashlights, one headlamp, our phones,  two battery banks for the phones, good knife, standalone GPS, map, compass., and first aid kit"  There was a solid 5 count pause, and she was like " Okaaaaay, seems like you have enough to make it to tomorrow if you need to."

We made it off the mountain about 2230, called them back and let them know, and they thanked us for both fixing it ourselves and thinking to give them a heads up.

Mrs. Mush put this sticker on her water bottle after that.


I love this story, dogmush, thanks for posting it.

I got lost hunting several years ago.  I even had a GPS with me.  I had wandered several miles on foot from my base camp, opting to scout some territory in the White Mountains that were reasonably removed from forest roads.  The forest was thick enough that I couldn't see familiar peaks, and I was also several miles away from a familiar canyon that makes for a good nav reference.  The big thing that got me though, was dehydration.  Left camp with a partially full camelbak, lower than I estimated.  Also hadn't been good about hydrating when coming back to camp after several days out in the woods.  Started reading the GPS incorrectly due to that.  I ended up coming out of the backcountry onto a totally separate set of roads than I anticipated, about 3 miles from camp but at least recognizing the road numbers.
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