Post by: Manedwolf on January 07, 2008, 10:15:31 AM
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Post by: Leatherneck on January 07, 2008, 10:20:35 AM
TC
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 07, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
Brad
Post by: Manedwolf on January 07, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
You should try it. Really!
Brad
Brad
If I wanted to do that, I'd just stick my fingers down my throat. It's cheaper.
Seriously. Weak, gassy machine-made "beer" mixed with tomato juice and CLAM JUICE. That makes me feel nauseous just considering it.
The "reviews" at that site are pretty funny, though.
Post by: grislyatoms on January 07, 2008, 10:37:57 AM
For those who have never tried it, it's sort of sweet, tangy, and salty all at once. Great stuff. My daughter likes it too. Between us, we can polish off a quart in about 10 minutes.
I tried the beer/Clamato mix 4-5 months ago. I drank a couple of swigs and poured the rest down the drain. Nasty,nasty,nasty.
FWIW, "tomato beer" (beer and tomato or V-8 juice) or a michelada (beer and Clamato) are rather popular around here.
Post by: charby on January 07, 2008, 10:48:35 AM
I've never tried Clamato.
-C
Post by: Boomhauer on January 07, 2008, 10:52:02 AM
CLAM JUICE???
You people eat/drink some of the weirdest *expletive deleted*it i have ever seen...
I'll stick with my coca-cola, thank you very much...
Post by: 280plus on January 07, 2008, 10:54:02 AM
Post by: charby on January 07, 2008, 10:57:23 AM
So I'm guessing you're not wanting any electric clam juicer for Christmas?
mmmm extra calcium...
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 07, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
Brad
Post by: Sergeant Bob on January 07, 2008, 11:02:32 AM
Post by: MrRezister on January 07, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
I'll stick to schapps, thanks.
Post by: BridgeWalker on January 07, 2008, 11:09:01 AM
Please pass the tequila.
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 07, 2008, 11:11:04 AM
I can't imagine that it tastes much worse than straight beer.
I'll stick to schapps, thanks.
I'll stick to schapps, thanks.
Blecch! Drink Karo syrup laced with vodka and fruit juice. It's cheaper and it tastes the same.
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As an alcohol delivery system, beer is already woefully inefficient.
Please pass the tequila.
Please pass the tequila.
Sure, but having to get up and go pee every ten or fifteen minutes keeps you somewhat up-to-date on your ability to stand without assistance.
Brad
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 11:21:03 AM
As an alcohol delivery system, beer is already woefully inefficient.
Then you're drinking the wrong beer.
Post by: BridgeWalker on January 07, 2008, 11:39:41 AM
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Then you're drinking the wrong beer.
Then you're drinking the wrong beer.
Nah, I'm drinking the right tequila
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 11:41:44 AM
There's no direct link to it, but go to www.bellsbeer.com and click your way through.
Try it, it's the ultimate in beer snobbery. If you can't get it in your state I'll send you a bottle.
Post by: Manedwolf on January 07, 2008, 11:43:49 AM
Someone I know had two in a row, and discovered that their legs no longer functioned properly.
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 11:46:32 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on January 07, 2008, 11:48:07 AM
Places that have craft brews like Stone usually have it.
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 11:51:28 AM
Only if they have beer...it's sold as a beer, in a four-pack of bottles. Places that have craft brews like Stone usually have it.
Places that have craft brews like Stone usually have it. Yeah they'll have it, they have the most comprehensive alcoholic beverage selection I've ever seen in my life.
Ironically, the place is called Wine Castle, which sounds like a hole-in-the-wall party store from the ghetto. It's anything but.
It's interesting to note that some states have alcohol content limits for beer, so some of the more potent stuff is not available there. Michigan is not one of them.
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 12:01:37 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on January 07, 2008, 12:08:36 PM
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 12:17:35 PM
There's got to be some secondary in-bottle fermentation of the muscat grape juice in it, then, or something. Because one bottle had me a little pleasantly fuzzy too, and regular "beer", as in the form of anything from ale to stout, does NOT do that to me.
Just try the Third Coast Old Ale and get back to me.
By the way don't mistake it for Bell's Third Coast Beer, it's not the same product.
Post by: BridgeWalker on January 07, 2008, 12:20:54 PM
I'm gonna try that one Manedwolf, I'm sure the specialty store where I got my Mead has it.
Mead comes from a store?!?! I get mine from the basement
The last batch was just bottled a couple weeks back. I was broke though, so it's "bottled" in mason jars.
I'm sure I can find anything by Bell's. I'm in Lansing, MI.
Post by: charby on January 07, 2008, 12:25:41 PM
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 12:30:58 PM
I'm gonna try that one Manedwolf, I'm sure the specialty store where I got my Mead has it.
Mead comes from a store?!?! I get mine from the basement
I used to homebrew a long time ago, when I had few bills and lots of spare time. I may or may not have been under age.
I'll go to great lengths to find truly good brews, so if you've got some of that mead to "give away" (you're a homebrewer so you know why I said that) I'd gladly "take some for free". I live in Redford and pass through your town on my way up north frequently.
Oh, and try Third Coast Old Ale.
Post by: jefnvk on January 07, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
Since this has turned into a favorite non-crappy beer thread, anyone Michigan way should try Founder's Dirty Bastard. Probably the best Scotch ale I have ever had.
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 12:39:28 PM
Budweiser has been projectiole vomiting in a can since it was made. This is just taking it up a notch.
Since this has turned into a favorite non-crappy beer thread, anyone Michigan way should try Founder's Dirty Bastard. Probably the best Scotch ale I have ever had.
Since this has turned into a favorite non-crappy beer thread, anyone Michigan way should try Founder's Dirty Bastard. Probably the best Scotch ale I have ever had.
Scotch ale is some potent s**t, in terms of flavor. I'll add that to the list.
And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Post by: SteveS on January 07, 2008, 12:51:52 PM
Budweiser has been projectiole vomiting in a can since it was made. This is just taking it up a notch.
Since this has turned into a favorite non-crappy beer thread, anyone Michigan way should try Founder's Dirty Bastard. Probably the best Scotch ale I have ever had.
Since this has turned into a favorite non-crappy beer thread, anyone Michigan way should try Founder's Dirty Bastard. Probably the best Scotch ale I have ever had.
I have and I agree that it is good!
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 07, 2008, 12:52:22 PM
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And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Obviously you've never had Pearl Light or Milwaukee's Best.
Brad
Post by: Declaration Day on January 07, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
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And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Obviously you've never had Pearl Light or Milwaukee's Best.
Brad
Never heard of Pearl but Milwaukee's "Best" is foul
Ever notice that any beer that has "best" or "premium" on the can / bottle is just the opposite?
Post by: atomd on January 07, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
There's also Dogfish Head Midas Touch, which is somewhere between a beer and mead or something. It's from an ancient Sumerian recipe. Trying to have several will put you on your ass pretty quick. Not sure what the alcohol content is, but it's over 15%, I know that.
Someone I know had two in a row, and discovered that their legs no longer functioned properly.
Someone I know had two in a row, and discovered that their legs no longer functioned properly.
Dogfish Head makes GREAT beer. Their 120 Minute IPA is around 21%ish which is up there. It tastes good too. Their old school barelywine is about 15% I think too. I think their old version of Worldwide stout was around 22-23%. They toned it down a few years back to around 18-19% though.They also recently had an imperial pilsner that I loved. Sam Adams makes one even stronger that's I think around 23-24% but it tastes more like a strange weak cognac than beer....and it doesn't taste that good overall anyways. I like to drink a lot of Imperial Stouts and other big beers that usually end up around the 10% range. Some of my other favorite breweries are Victory, Rogue, Allagash, and Stone. I've tried a few Bell's stuff that was good too but it's been a while and I can't get it here. I remember it being good though.
Post by: armchair warrior on January 07, 2008, 03:40:15 PM
I would have a "red beer".V8 and whatever was left over
from the night before.Nurse 1 or 2 and your back in shape
for a straight beer.Only recommended for a hangover.
Post by: J.J. on January 07, 2008, 07:14:24 PM
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And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Obviously you've never had Pearl Light or Milwaukee's Best.
Brad
Schlitz...... you left off schlitz
Post by: J.J. on January 07, 2008, 07:15:19 PM
Post by: Gewehr98 on January 07, 2008, 08:05:46 PM
(I still have several bottles of Doomsday Mead from my last trip to merry old England...)
Post by: Manedwolf on January 08, 2008, 05:01:36 AM
Speaking of mead.. Can someone describe Mead to me... I have been wanting to try it.. but leary of getting something i won't enjoy... like the last 2 bottles of wine....
Honey wine, yes. Made from fermented honey. One of humanity's oldest alcoholic beverages.
It's really easy to make, and also really easy to make badly. Some local stuff I get (Piscassic Pond) is wonderful. Chaucer's, the mass-market brand, is harsh swill that I don't like at all.
If done well, it can be complex and subtle, with a fragrant nose and honey finish. If done badly, it's harsh like cheap sake, with a nose of rubbing alcohol.
Post by: Antibubba on January 08, 2008, 06:22:28 AM
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Aroma is like concentrated Long Island Sound. Brine and spice with a distince dead sea creature nuance.
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After taking a sip, I died a little inside.
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I had a hard time just forcing my self to take the first sip. After the first sip, I could not force myself to take another sip. I had to pour the rest out, this was one of the worst beers that I have ever tried.
I saw this beer and had to try it becasue, it looked so bad. It was so bad that I had to buy a couple of can to take back for the friends to try.
I saw this beer and had to try it becasue, it looked so bad. It was so bad that I had to buy a couple of can to take back for the friends to try.
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I've never had the misfortune of drinking a glass of fish blood, but I expect this is what it tastes like.
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Flavor is so bad I can scarsely describe it. Pain. Fear. Agony. This is what cancer tastes like.
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I was instantly reminded of the smell of beer and pizza vomit and it took a couple of gags to get the first few sips down, but as my palate broke down and figured out a lot of competing flavors, I found myself compelled to drink more. Kinda like sniffing at a dead skunk I guess. I would buy more, but only to make other people unwittingly suffer.
Post by: BridgeWalker on January 08, 2008, 06:20:44 PM
It's really easy to make, and also really easy to make badly. Some local stuff I get (Piscassic Pond) is wonderful. Chaucer's, the mass-market brand, is harsh swill that I don't like at all.
If done well, it can be complex and subtle, with a fragrant nose and honey finish. If done badly, it's harsh like cheap sake, with a nose of rubbing alcohol.
If done well, it can be complex and subtle, with a fragrant nose and honey finish. If done badly, it's harsh like cheap sake, with a nose of rubbing alcohol.
Yeah, my last batch may be closer to the latter than the former. I wanted to experiment to sulfide-free mead, but then I had a baby and a move and a lot of other stuff going on, and it oxidized a bit in the carboy. It is not fabulous. I would love to give ya some for free, but I fear you will be disappointed.
Post by: crt360 on January 09, 2008, 03:46:23 PM
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I saw this beer and had to try it becasue, it looked so bad. It was so bad that I had to buy a couple of can to take back for the friends to try.
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I was instantly reminded of the smell of beer and pizza vomit and it took a couple of gags to get the first few sips down, but as my palate broke down and figured out a lot of competing flavors, I found myself compelled to drink more. Kinda like sniffing at a dead skunk I guess. I would buy more, but only to make other people unwittingly suffer.
I like those responses. The stuff has a prominent location in my local store, so I guess someone is buying it. I have yet to try it. I've eaten clams. No problem. Tomato juice. It's alright. Budweiser. Not my favorite, but far from the worst beer around. Clam juice. Clam juice? WTF is that? Did they just squeeze a variety of animals until juice came out, taste it, and determine what came from the clam to be superior?
Post by: Fly320s on January 09, 2008, 03:50:46 PM
You buncha wuss pansies.
Brad
Isn't that like a double negative?
Brad
Post by: atomd on January 09, 2008, 04:24:13 PM
Don't go out and buy a bunch of honey (it usually costs quite a bit) thinking you're going to make some great stuff. It's easy to make but make sure you read up on it a bit before trying. It costs a bit to make and you need to let it age a while so if it's not good to drink you might be really let down. At the minimum you'll need a hydrometer, sanitizer, carboy w/ air lock (2 of those is better than one), the right kind of yeast (personal preference) and a place to ferment it with a stable temperature in the right zone. Some recipes say to boil it but I wouldn't because you'll lose a lot of the flavor. You can heat it up to 170 for a while to kill the nasties in it. I've made it without even heating it at all before and had no problems. Then you need bottles and a capper or some other way to store it and all that small misc crap to rack it from one carboy to another and blah blah.
Once I kegged some mead. That was interesting having a 5 gallon keg of that around.
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 09, 2008, 05:30:31 PM
You buncha wuss pansies.
Brad
Isn't that like a double negative?Brad
Two negatives make a postive. Algebra thing.
Brad
Post by: 280plus on January 09, 2008, 06:41:59 PM
Post by: RocketMan on January 09, 2008, 06:52:20 PM
Clam juice. Clam juice? WTF is that? Did they just squeeze a variety of animals until juice came out, taste it, and determine what came from the clam to be superior?
Clam Nectar is popular among some folks in this neck of the woods. It's the liquid left over from making a batch steamer clams. A lot of people drink it after eating the steamers. I do.
The clam juice in the bottle I've seen in the store looks like clam nectar. Don't know what it tastes like as I've never tried it.
Post by: seeker_two on January 10, 2008, 01:57:41 AM
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And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Obviously you've never had Pearl Light or Milwaukee's Best.
Brad
Schlitz...... you left off schlitz
...and Keystone.....
....but you're right about Budweiser. And Miller. And Coors, too.
I like Blue Moon Belgan Pale Ale, myself.....
Post by: Manedwolf on January 10, 2008, 04:51:21 AM
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And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Obviously you've never had Pearl Light or Milwaukee's Best.
Brad
Schlitz...... you left off schlitz
...and Keystone.....
....but you're right about Budweiser. And Miller. And Coors, too.
I like Blue Moon Belgan Pale Ale, myself.....
Blue Moon is Coors.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
That's the new thing, the big beer-in-steel-vats companies making fake microbrews in steel vats and using deceptive labeling.
I buy local. Smuttynose, Red Hook, etc, or craft breweries that are unquestionably that. Or a growler right from Martha's Exchange near work.
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 10, 2008, 05:24:14 AM
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Clam juice. Clam juice? WTF is that? Did they just squeeze a variety of animals until juice came out, taste it, and determine what came from the clam to be superior?
What else do you do on a Friday night? Did that past-time suddenly become unpopular?
Sippin' on some badger juice right now. Sorry, Tejon.
Post by: seeker_two on January 10, 2008, 06:34:29 AM
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And I agree, Budweiser is carbonated urine at best.
Obviously you've never had Pearl Light or Milwaukee's Best.
Brad
Schlitz...... you left off schlitz
...and Keystone.....
....but you're right about Budweiser. And Miller. And Coors, too.
I like Blue Moon Belgan Pale Ale, myself.....
Blue Moon is Coors.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
That's the new thing, the big beer-in-steel-vats companies making fake microbrews in steel vats and using deceptive labeling.
I buy local. Smuttynose, Red Hook, etc, or craft breweries that are unquestionably that. Or a growler right from Martha's Exchange near work.
AAAkkkkkk......spit...spit....pftttttt......I'm going to burn my tongue now......
Back to Sam Adams for me......
Post by: Sergeant Bob on January 10, 2008, 06:41:04 AM
...and Keystone.....
....but you're right about Budweiser. And Miller. And Coors, too.
I like Blue Moon Belgan Pale Ale, myself.....
Blue Moon is Coors.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
That's the new thing, the big beer-in-steel-vats companies making fake microbrews in steel vats and using deceptive labeling.
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What does it matter (except to beer snobs) as long as its good?
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 10, 2008, 10:48:46 AM
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Blue Moon is Coors.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
A bunch of the so-called "specialty brews" are a product of the big beer producers. Coors has many of 'em, as does Anheuser-Busch.
It's a conspiracy by Big Beer, I tell ya. Or maybe it's all Busch's fault...
Brad
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 10, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on January 10, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
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Blue Moon is Coors.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
Seriously. It's their product, under a hidden name. Google it.
A bunch of the so-called "specialty brews" are a product of the big beer producers. Coors has many of 'em, as does Anheuser-Busch.
It's a conspiracy by Big Beer, I tell ya. Or maybe it's all Busch's fault...
Brad
It only bothers me when the label doesn't say so, and I want to try something new when out. Looks like a craft brew, I'm expecting something like like a Stone or Smuttynose craft brew, open it...and it smells skunked and is the same overly carbonated machine-made swill that such companies usually make, just with different flavoring.
Post by: Declaration Day on January 10, 2008, 01:23:43 PM
A bunch of the so-called "specialty brews" are a product of the big beer producers. Coors has many of 'em, as does Anheuser-Busch.
You can't blame them for trying. Micro brews / specialty brews have been steadily growing in popularity, and the Macrobrewers just want their cut of the profits.
I'd be willing to give them a shot if they manage to make something good, but I'm not holding my breath.
Post by: atomd on January 10, 2008, 05:36:28 PM
Oh, and about Red Hook, Busch owns about 1/3rd of that company now too. Has for a while actually. I really like the Smuttynose line of beers. Their IPA and their Robust Porter are great. Their big beer series is really good too. Their lager is their weakest I think but still not too bad for a northeast lager (for some reason we can't seem to make the great ones up this way). I'm more of an ale guy anyways.
Post by: J.J. on January 10, 2008, 06:13:06 PM