Post by: Tecumseh on February 14, 2008, 12:48:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLYzho6Af_o
Post by: S. Williamson on February 14, 2008, 01:48:14 AM
Post by: Declaration Day on February 14, 2008, 01:48:25 AM
We have a New Baltimore here in MI, and they said that the NB police department was receiving complaint calls and even death threats.
Anyway, that cop needs to be fired and charged with assault.
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2008, 02:12:43 AM
Yes, thank god for this guy.
My thoughts as well. Video cameras should be banned, along with all this pesky accountability.
Post by: roo_ster on February 14, 2008, 05:14:38 AM
Nowadays, it is wise to be on your best behavior in public, 'cause even if you don't believe God is watching, some schmoe with a phone-cam probably is.
Gotta love the last line:
"Is that camera on, 'cause if i find myself on Y--"
I sure hope Officer Neckvein enjoyed his tirade, because it is gonna cost him.
Post by: K Frame on February 14, 2008, 05:16:04 AM
Post by: Dannyboy on February 14, 2008, 05:19:11 AM
Post by: Racehorse on February 14, 2008, 05:50:34 AM
Post by: ilbob on February 14, 2008, 06:23:37 AM
Post by: Bigjake on February 14, 2008, 06:45:34 AM
Post by: Strings on February 14, 2008, 07:55:57 AM
Why is it I NEVER get to see stuff like this happening in front of me?
Post by: BridgeWalker on February 14, 2008, 08:17:18 AM
Why is it I NEVER get to see stuff like this happening in front of me?
You don't skateboard enough.
And you aren't quadraplegic.
Post by: Tecumseh on February 14, 2008, 08:23:10 AM
Why is it I NEVER get to see stuff like this happening in front of me?
You don't skateboard enough.
And you aren't quadraplegic.
Post by: HankB on February 14, 2008, 08:41:49 AM
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Post by: roo_ster on February 14, 2008, 09:02:55 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2008, 12:19:13 PM
A jerk in a meter-maid scooter wearing really a unfortunate uniform.
That was my first thought. Spandex does not breed respect for authority.
Post by: Blakenzy on February 14, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
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Sometimes skateboarders are a nuisance, and even a danger to pedestrians, but there are more appropriate ways to deal with them than a power mad cop in a golf cart and nutty looking uniform. Pass an ordinance that first offense of skateboarding in a prohibited area is confiscation of said skateboard. Politely remove skateboard from skateboarder and destroy. A few skateboarders get their boards destroyed and the rest get the idea and move somewhere it is safe and legal to use them.
Prohibition and confiscation or destruction of private property by hands of the Government is never a good idea, at any level, in any form. Get's them full of hot air and eager to extrapolate their new found "powers" to other areas of control on civilians:
"Sometimes gunowners are a nuisance, but there are more appropriate ways to deal with them than a power mad cop in a APC and tactical looking uniform
. Pass an ordinance that first offense of owning a gun is confiscation of said gun. Politely remove gun from owner and destroy. A few gunowners get their guns destroyed and the rest get the idea and move somewhere it is safe and legal to use them" (Arizona?)Post by: vernal45 on February 14, 2008, 02:54:22 PM
Post by: Regolith on February 14, 2008, 03:01:22 PM
Dig a little deeper on this. This incident happened over a year ago.
So therefore no longer matters and can be swept under the rug?
Nah, doesn't work that way. This may have happened last summer, but nothing was done about it until the video hit the internet just recently. Delayed justice is still justice.
Post by: RevDisk on February 14, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
While I'm not a fan of skateboarders myself, screaming at a 14 year old who is standing around doing nothing dangerous is a lil excessive. "When I'm talking, you shut your mouth and you listen." "The sooner you learn that, the longer you live in this world. Because you go around doing this stuff, someone's going to kill you." Personally, at that point, I'd be worried that he was going to flip out and do something nuts.
Assault a kid, stealing his board, hitting him again. Then screaming at him. I suppose a lot of folks would consider this properly disciplining a kid. If you're the kid's parent, sure. But if I was that kid, I'd probably have a healthy fear and loathing of police officers afterwards.
At least he learned an important lesson. Never trust a government. Ever.
Post by: Strings on February 14, 2008, 04:17:55 PM
Would LOVE to be an adult happening on that scene. A quick call to the station, and a request to speak to the watch commander, would DEFINATELY be a fun time!
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 14, 2008, 05:35:12 PM
Post by: doc2rn on February 14, 2008, 06:24:00 PM
I would bet he became an officer because he was picked on at the age of 14.
It's all about respect, you give respect to get it.
Another fine example of fine upstanding LEO.
Post by: TF_FH on February 14, 2008, 07:11:55 PM
He should heed his own advice. I hate jackasses like that.
Sometimes skateboarders are a nuisance, and even a danger to pedestrians, but there are more appropriate ways to deal with them than a power mad cop in a golf cart and nutty looking uniform. Pass an ordinance that first offense of skateboarding in a prohibited area is confiscation of said skateboard. Politely remove skateboard from skateboarder and destroy. A few skateboarders get their boards destroyed and the rest get the idea and move somewhere it is safe and legal to use them.
I wouldn't quite agree with that as there is the chance that while skateboarding, you arent exactly reading some random sign up on a pole. I would have to say 1st offense is a written warning (just to have paperwork to keep track of offenses), 2nd offense, confiscation and returned to parent, 3rd and all following offenses would be total confiscation.
But anyway, this guy went off the deep end. He will get screwed and I hope this jerk doesn't decide to get revenge on this kid because he got caught being a jackoff.
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2008, 07:18:46 PM
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Because you go around doing this stuff, someone's going to kill you.
When I heard that, I was surprised the kids didn't just run. Sounds like a threat.
Post by: vernal45 on February 14, 2008, 07:52:51 PM
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 14, 2008, 08:05:35 PM
Post by: zahc on February 14, 2008, 08:10:52 PM
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2nd offense, confiscation and returned to parent,
Parent? Skateboarding isn't an exclusively adolescent phenomenon. Adults do skateboard.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 14, 2008, 08:20:27 PM
Post by: Antibubba on February 14, 2008, 08:27:17 PM
Post by: Strings on February 14, 2008, 08:49:47 PM
From memory: he asks the kids several times if they can hear him, telling them to remove their "earplugs" (I'm assuming earbud headphones). When the one replies "yeah" in a less than totally respectful tone, he goes off. Had I, as an uninvolved bystander, been passing by, I would've been calling his watch commander.
You put on the badge, you get loads of authority. But that authority comes with responsibility, and an expectation of professionalism. This particular officer did NOT meet that expectation.
"If you don't shape up... someone's gonna kill you!" is a threat against life. At no point does an officer have the right to threaten somebody's life like that...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 14, 2008, 09:00:57 PM
was that a threat? or a prediction of what the lil hero of the revolution can look forward to is he doesn't shape up? in charm city its not that bad a prediction.
i know folks in certain fields can get a certain myopia but i don't see that as a threat if he said "i'll kill you " that would be a threat.
in your professional opinion is some kids liking to get cops angry acceptable behavior? tell you waht keep the kids name handy we'll run it on inmate finder in a few years see how his story plays out. what do you call a kid who goes looking for an angry response the crys when he gets it? i know what we called em
Post by: Bogie on February 14, 2008, 09:21:32 PM
Everyone go over to break.com, and do a search on "skateboard" and "fracture."
http://www.break.com/index/sweet-compilation-of-our-best-faceplants.html
Post by: roo_ster on February 15, 2008, 03:38:13 AM
Neither party acquitted itself well
Thing is, one of those parties was an adult and the other was composed of minors (AKA, "callow youths").
One party also wielded significant authority and was armed.
Personally, I expect better behavior from an adult and also have the expectation of better behavior from an armed agent of the state.
Officer Bumblebee could have chosen to be professional and still taught them a lesson: ticketing, arrest, etc. Instead, he chose to swing his dick around a group of immature males.
Real tough. Real professional. Just what I want in a police officer.
Post by: gunsmith on February 15, 2008, 04:33:11 AM
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"If you don't shape up... someone's gonna kill you!"
back before I quit drinking and "partying" I had been a motorcycle courier , I had put an expensive pair of kangaroo and kevlar gloves down while fixing something on my bike, these gloves were almost 200 bucks! a skate boarder stole them...if I had caught him he may have died because I was going to administer a surprise attack.
He is truly lucky I never saw or caught him.
Long before modern skate culture I too rode a skate board (1970's) these kids think they invented the wheel.
Some of them have a rotten confrontational attitude, I was out once walking the dog at 5 am in SF and saw a guy with a long board walking by, his long jacket made it look like he was wearing a dress so I was unintentionally staring at him, he yelled at me to "stop staring at him that I shouldn't be afraid of him"
I told him that I'm not even a little afraid of him, (at 5 am I will keep an eye on freaky people in SF) he started moving toward me in a threatening tone he started telling me "to respect him" and he got told that you don't get respect you earn it...when he got into 25 feet my hand was on my grip of my pistol because it looked like he was going to try and brain me with his board, he never saw the gun but I think he figured out what the NRA on my hat stood for and he didn't even see a glint of fear so he finally backed off.
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"If you don't shape up... someone's gonna kill you!"
I think the cop was predicting his future, if you go around trying to make cops and other adults angry you might get the wrong one at the wrong time....well actually they got the wrong cop at the wrong time, he was already angry by the time the tape was rolling, what transpired before it?
The cop was out of line, but I hope he only gets a suspension not fired, from what I see he was only trying to teach disrespectful kids some manners.
I bet he has treated other people just fine, to bad there is no video tape of that to post on youtube.
Post by: Strings on February 15, 2008, 12:06:55 PM
Yes, MAYBE there was more to the conflict before the tape started rolling. But it seemed to start fairly early in the conversation (the repeated "Can you hear me?" from the cop)...
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 15, 2008, 12:11:26 PM
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"If you don't shape up... someone's gonna kill you!"
I think the cop was predicting his future,
True. Still sounds rather ominous, though.
Post by: ilbob on February 15, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
Post by: Tallpine on February 15, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
After all, skateboarding is a gateway crime. That kid will probably grow up to be a serial parking violator, not to mention driving in the carpool lane.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 15, 2008, 06:53:23 PM
Post by: hoppinglark on February 17, 2008, 03:17:06 AM
Think about it, before the internet or digital video, the only people who had the resources to show this
type of stuff was 60 minutes, etc. They would go to some southern state and cruise at the speed limit,
then get pulled over for something they didn't do and have the officer on tape.
Now anyone who plans ahead can carry a camera in their daily life and share it with the entire online community.
I hope that cop lost his job.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 17, 2008, 05:15:22 PM