Post by: Bogie on February 14, 2008, 11:21:36 AM
He's already smoked weed and snorted coke, which is fine with a bunch of the supporters.
I think she actually needs to get him to outline just what is meant by "change." Ask some probing questions in a debate or two...
But what kinda dirt do you think she has?
Post by: Manedwolf on February 14, 2008, 11:37:38 AM
Post by: Bogie on February 14, 2008, 11:47:11 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on February 14, 2008, 11:50:18 AM
I think Daley'd get thrown to the wolves too...
Nah, he has dirt on too many of THEM!
Boss Daley makes Boss Tweed look like a shoplifter. The state governor is just his bootlicking puppet. If Obama were elected, the cabinet would be filled with more Daley puppets, and Daley would rule from behind from his midwest Imperial City.
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on February 14, 2008, 12:28:14 PM
Post by: El Tejon on February 14, 2008, 12:36:34 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2008, 12:50:28 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on February 14, 2008, 12:52:57 PM
If Obama nails the nomination, will Clinton try to wreck his election, so Hillary could take another whack at it in 2012?
Or assassinate his character so thoroughly that he'll have to drop out.
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 14, 2008, 01:24:03 PM
...skeleton-wise, for Hillary to torpedo Obama?
He's already smoked weed and snorted coke, which is fine with a bunch of the supporters.
I think she actually needs to get him to outline just what is meant by "change." Ask some probing questions in a debate or two...
But what kinda dirt do you think she has?
He's already smoked weed and snorted coke, which is fine with a bunch of the supporters.
I think she actually needs to get him to outline just what is meant by "change." Ask some probing questions in a debate or two...
But what kinda dirt do you think she has?
I despise him and could care less that he's snorted coke and smoked weed. Much of his generation has....these are the former hippy's remember?
I think that he's tied into a fixed election, maybe even his own Senatorial bid. Chicago...think dead voters, etc.
Post by: The Rabbi on February 14, 2008, 01:40:59 PM
...skeleton-wise, for Hillary to torpedo Obama?
He's already smoked weed and snorted coke, which is fine with a bunch of the supporters.
I think she actually needs to get him to outline just what is meant by "change." Ask some probing questions in a debate or two...
But what kinda dirt do you think she has?
He's already smoked weed and snorted coke, which is fine with a bunch of the supporters.
I think she actually needs to get him to outline just what is meant by "change." Ask some probing questions in a debate or two...
But what kinda dirt do you think she has?
Obama was the one to suggest Donald Rumsfeld to Bush for Sec Def.
Post by: seeker_two on February 15, 2008, 01:54:03 AM
Post by: SomeKid on February 15, 2008, 02:01:24 AM
Post by: Scout26 on February 15, 2008, 12:35:17 PM
If he's smart he'll ignore whatever mud she slings and say "I'm talking about change and she's playing dirty politics." You don't want to get into a mud fight with the Clintons. They have will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Post by: CAnnoneer on February 15, 2008, 12:43:20 PM
...skeleton-wise, for Hillary to torpedo Obama?
A sure-fire would be the revelation that, after all, he is not Black.
By the way, I've talked to some of my social-democrat colleagues and they see him for the bag of smoke and tricks he is. They won't vote Repub if he wins the nomination, but they may just stay home in November.
Post by: Scout26 on February 15, 2008, 01:15:43 PM
Post by: Bogie on February 15, 2008, 01:34:58 PM
Post by: Scout26 on February 15, 2008, 03:08:51 PM
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If she's veep, he's not going to last through the first term
Shhh..... He's not supposed to know that......
Post by: Strings on February 15, 2008, 04:49:51 PM
Obama wins the nomination, he has to KNOW what happens to folks who get in the way of the Clintons' political aspirations.
Hillary wins the nomination, she has to know that many black radicals would be hoping to see her with crosshairs.
Each one is a danger to the other as a VP.
What kind of skeleton would work? 'Bout the only thing I can think of would be something major enough to cause felony charges NOW (a current crime, that a DA can go after)...
Post by: Balog on February 19, 2008, 12:07:11 PM
But let's face it, anything serious happens to Obama and we're gonna see riots all over the country.
Post by: Manedwolf on February 19, 2008, 12:14:30 PM
But let's face it, anything serious happens to Obama and we're gonna see riots all over the country.
I seriously doubt that.
Not as long as American iDull, Lost, various reality shows and talk shows, etc...stay on the air. People will grumble, be content, and sit home and watch.
Opiate of the masses.
Post by: Scout26 on February 19, 2008, 12:59:40 PM
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Maybe RICO charges for some of the things Daley's involved in crossing over onto him
If they have not been able to nail Daley's butt to the wall, I hold out little hope that they will get anything on Obama. Even Rezko isn't sticking.
If she loses Wisconsin tonight and Texas/Ohio next week, she's done.
Post by: RocketMan on February 19, 2008, 01:05:12 PM
If she loses Wisconsin tonight and Texas/Ohio next week, she's done.
Pretty much true. And I would not have predicted that outcome six months ago. Rather surprising.
Post by: Balog on February 19, 2008, 01:39:16 PM
But let's face it, anything serious happens to Obama and we're gonna see riots all over the country.
I seriously doubt that.
Not as long as American iDull, Lost, various reality shows and talk shows, etc...stay on the air. People will grumble, be content, and sit home and watch.
Opiate of the masses.
Didn't stop it in La after Rodney King.
Post by: Bogie on February 19, 2008, 01:47:32 PM
Post by: HankB on February 21, 2008, 03:42:59 AM
Vince Foster anyone?
How would bringing Chelsea's biological father into it help?
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 21, 2008, 04:04:56 AM
Vince Foster anyone?
Just like the towers were an inside job, right?
While in a position of utmost power, it wouldn't surprise me if the Klintons abused it, I think the idea of Hillary taking out a sitting president so that she can take the reigns is ludicrious. Not only do I think that is the one thing that might be beneath her, I also think that the odds of her pulling that one off are slim to none. The days of walking up to a President on a street corner and shooting him are over, especially in a post 9/11 world. Unless Hillary pulled the trigger herself....
Post by: Waitone on February 22, 2008, 02:38:32 AM
Meanwhile back at the ranch Obama will have to fend off Hillary and the Clinton family to grab the nomination. Hillary spent an entire lifetime pursuing power only to see Obama step in and take it from her. She is quite capable of destroying the democrat party. Obama's mission is to hold it all together. We will see what kind of crisis manager he really is just by surviving Hillary's counter attacks.
Time is on our side. More details will come out. Whether of not the details derails his ride to the white house is a different story.
Post by: Manedwolf on February 22, 2008, 06:00:00 AM
Meanwhile back at the ranch Obama will have to fend off Hillary and the Clinton family to grab the nomination. Hillary spent an entire lifetime pursuing power only to see Obama step in and take it from her. She is quite capable of destroying the democrat party. Obama's mission is to hold it all together. We will see what kind of crisis manager he really is just by surviving Hillary's counter attacks.
Oh, if she loses the nomination, I expect her to burn down the entire party on her way out. She won't go gracefully.
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on February 22, 2008, 06:54:03 AM
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
They didn't search anybody at the Chelsea event - just the bags.
Post by: seeker_two on February 22, 2008, 07:32:03 AM
Do ex-presidents have pull with the Secret Service?
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
They didn't search anybody at the Chelsea event - just the bags.
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
They didn't search anybody at the Chelsea event - just the bags.
Mike Gallagher was talking about that on radio......scary stuff.
But then, how many Clinton appointees did Bush leave in place? (i.e. Mineta, Tennet, et al.)
Post by: Scout26 on February 22, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
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Do ex-presidents have pull with the Secret Service?
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
Looks like Bill forgot to call LHO.